I had posted some of this in another reply but I thought it was worth its own discussion.After spending over a month and hours a day of knocking my head against the HT wall as a new player (!Attention developers!), I have to say that HT along with the lopsided shard I'm in is just a motivation/fun killer, a.k.a motivation/fun suck. 8 out of 11 fleet squads ahead of me in fleet arena have HT and have anywhere from 100k to 600k GP more than me. They are mostly level 85 and I just hit 82. And it's been that uneven since level 60. It doesn't sound like much but it's months of farming difference for F2P. Not to mention the ever growing earnings difference in crystals since teams with HT are just about always ahead of me. You can't even start to farm Bossk until level 85 aside from the store and all I've been doing from the start is concentrating on farming ships and pilots for power. Tie Advanced is about the only option but that's out of reach for me too at this point. This feels like such a waste of time and it's a total bummer!Let's game this out from a F2P perspective. Farming HT and Bossk to a competitive level in my shard is 1-2 mos away for me to reach level 85 and another 2 mos to 7 star Bossk. And by that time the other teams will all have Hans Millenium Falcon which you can't get without HT and Bossk!!! How the "wack" am I this far behind in a relatively new shard? Hello developers? I'd be able to deal with the bad shard if it wasn't for the additionally lopsided HT. Bad shard and crappy meta ship design!! Ally Code: 887-344-419

Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.

"Dk_rek;c-1871071" wrote:"f82bd;c-1869676" wrote:Update: After concentrating solely on fleet for my entire time playing this game, I was able to farm BH ships and get HMF (broke down and bought one BH ship pack). I now split first place with my fellow top five HMF squads. Funny thing is with all the HMFs the main differentiation is still who has the biggest HT. So I guess this will last until Nute's capital ship comes and the bugs/HT take over!! Hopefully it lasts a little longer so I can finally get a little payout and go after a decent arena squad.Nothing is going to take over.... My Favorite part of this game is dead... They don't care, they have ignored ship guys for years..... Really? Ships 2.0, new ships and among them a legendary non-capital ship, adding crystals to rewards, including ships in (some) GAs, galactic runs (or whatever the EP / Ebon event was called).... It looks to me, that there's plenty of things going on. You may not like, what they do, but ships are in no way ignored.

It is how it is. Everyone has it same. F2P players need to farm for a long time. P2W players will just buy enough crystals to speed it up significantly. It took me about 4 months to get Bossk 7* G12 and Hound Tooth 7* and Millennium Falcon was released almost immediately after that. You are F2P. Don't expect to beat P2P players on top places in your shard. If you don't accept that, you better stop playing any competitive game offering micro transactions.

Good point but I wonder if it's just a p2p issue. It seems it's also shard creation issue. I'm about 500k GP and there someone with 1100k GP in the same shard. That's pretty goofy.

Shards are created as the previous one fills and are made of groups of people who open that game mode at the same time. I believe fleets are 5k and arena is 20k players.The system works very well for arena because people are generally opening that game mode up early on in the development, fleet is a little different. There are times when players return to the game and unlock ships and can be placed in a young shard, and other ways that the mix will seem odd. It will all even out as time goes on, but yes anyone who is $$ will gain/keep a time advantage over others.

Houndstooth and Uneven Fleet Shard Sucks

EA_Rtas
Community Manager
6 years ago
Alright cut the bickering out please. It's gone on long enough, I shouldn't have to be removing comments from the thread.
F82bd
6 years ago
Haha, just read the last reply and it makes me wonder what had to be deleted by EA_Rtas...

Constructively, I'm wondering if some of the earlier replies by Dk_rek had a point. For example, now that GA championship has started, I have now played about 4 or 5 5v5 matches sans ships... In addition, There aren't too many ship events like omega events for toons. Off the top of my head I can only think of the Cargo one that's similar. There does seem to be new content coming... geos tb (General Kenobis capital ship), Ebon hawk, the EP shuttle, maybe a separatist faction capital ship soon... but day to day what is there to do with this stuff.... try to chase a new arena meta is about it. Which can eventually lead to burnout. I don't know that having a new HT or HMF to pay for is the answer I'm looking for.

I like the GA championship but can we get 4 or 5 with ships in a row to balance things out? As developers where are you getting your feedback from? Super users or long-time players that don't use ships because they weren't there in the beginning? If that's the case, it seems like you're missing a huge new/er player perspective which is why I'm writing here. If I'm spending my time with ships, why is the payoff so lopsided? Seems somewhat like a self fulfilling prophecy. Sorry don't mean to be over dramatic but not sure how else to describe it. If ships aren't needed, why use them or invest time with them?

I've already mentioned events and GA championship but there's also a gap with guild events. Where's the recurring ship guild event? There's hstr, haat, hpit but where's hship or hdeathstar ;-)?
Waquira
6 years ago
"f82bd;c-1925385" wrote:
Haha, just read the last reply and it makes me wonder what had to be deleted by EA_Rtas...

Constructively, I'm wondering if some of the earlier replies by Dk_rek had a point. For example, now that GA championship has started, I have now played about 4 or 5 5v5 matches sans ships.

I like the GA championship but can we get 4 or 5 with ships in a row to balance things out? As developers where are you getting your feedback from? Super users or long-time players that don't use ships because they weren't there in the beginning? If that's the case, it seems like you're missing a huge new/er player perspective which is why I'm writing here.

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Patience, young padawan. Remember, that even though this is a full GAC, it's still just an exhibition (/beta test) GAC. The exhibition GACs are character only, as announced. I'm sure ships will be include in (some of) the real / non-exhibition GACs.
dkreknumone
6 years ago
More like next GAC will be exhibition with ships

Exhibitions should be over by 3042 ;) good sample size to go with ;)

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