I think this is how it works, please correct me when/if I'm wrong:A character has 1000/1000hp, Health Down brings them down to 800/800. If you ignore them, when HD expires they will be 1000/1000 again.If you hit them for 100 damage they will go to 700/800, and when HD expires they will be at 875/1000. Right?I'm trying to gameplan around Nihilus and think Grievous will be the answer. AoE heal debuff, then AoE Health Down to take a sizeable bite out of their enormous boosted health pool.

Health down reduces both the current and max health by 20%. It basically preserves the current percentage health while lowering max.

"kodias;909399" wrote:If you want to plan to counter DN I would just go Resistance. Expose hits for 20% of their health so that will be a huge counter to their enormous health pools. That being said I am sure DN is going to be behind a huge pay wall so you wont see many DN led sith teams for a long time. Unfortunately I can't comment with certainty on your Health down question but how you explain it makes sense to me. Their health after HD expires would be the same percentage as they had when HD was on.If I'm interpreting Health Down correctly, this would basically be Expose, except it affects every attack instead of just the first attack. The difference being Expose does its 200 damage (using the made up numbers from the first post) when you hit, Health Down gives an effective 20% damage boost to each hit.I.... I think."Josh_K;909416" wrote:Health down reduces both the current and max health by 20%. It basically preserves the current percentage health while lowering max.Yeah, but what happens when the effect expires? Their max goes back to normal, what happens to their current hp?Is it reproportioned?

This is why if you're going to be using characters with health down powers like grievous or zeta nihilus, it's double whammy to pair them up with units that can also expose on top of it.

Health down is pretty useless right now. It needs to be reworked into something else. You're basically trying to kill a character 20% faster, but against the clock before health down expires. Except it doesn't affect protection. What health down should do is allow attacks to bypass protection for a chance of killing a character by directly attacking their health. Or something like that, because as it is there's no real purpose.

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x0797mjs3
8 years ago
Health down reduces both the current and max health by 20%. It basically preserves the current percentage health while lowering max.
NicWester
8 years ago
"kodias;909399" wrote:
If you want to plan to counter DN I would just go Resistance. Expose hits for 20% of their health so that will be a huge counter to their enormous health pools. That being said I am sure DN is going to be behind a huge pay wall so you wont see many DN led sith teams for a long time.

Unfortunately I can't comment with certainty on your Health down question but how you explain it makes sense to me. Their health after HD expires would be the same percentage as they had when HD was on.

If I'm interpreting Health Down correctly, this would basically be Expose, except it affects every attack instead of just the first attack. The difference being Expose does its 200 damage (using the made up numbers from the first post) when you hit, Health Down gives an effective 20% damage boost to each hit.

I.... I think.
"Josh_K;909416" wrote:
Health down reduces both the current and max health by 20%. It basically preserves the current percentage health while lowering max.

Yeah, but what happens when the effect expires? Their max goes back to normal, what happens to their current hp?

Is it reproportioned?
Conomium_3vt4of
8 years ago
Bump
slowhand1981
8 years ago
This is why if you're going to be using characters with health down powers like grievous or zeta nihilus, it's double whammy to pair them up with units that can also expose on top of it.
JinSaotome77
8 years ago
Health down is pretty useless right now. It needs to be reworked into something else. You're basically trying to kill a character 20% faster, but against the clock before health down expires. Except it doesn't affect protection.

What health down should do is allow attacks to bypass protection for a chance of killing a character by directly attacking their health. Or something like that, because as it is there's no real purpose.
jadrian94
8 years ago
"JinSaotome;993653" wrote:
Health down is pretty useless right now. It needs to be reworked into something else. You're basically trying to kill a character 20% faster, but against the clock before health down expires. Except it doesn't affect protection.

What health down should do is allow attacks to bypass protection for a chance of killing a character by directly attacking their health. Or something like that, because as it is there's no real purpose.

Health down is far from useless. I like killing guys faster, idk about you
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"Mazurka;993662" wrote:
"JinSaotome;993653" wrote:
Health down is pretty useless right now. It needs to be reworked into something else. You're basically trying to kill a character 20% faster, but against the clock before health down expires. Except it doesn't affect protection.

What health down should do is allow attacks to bypass protection for a chance of killing a character by directly attacking their health. Or something like that, because as it is there's no real purpose.

Health down is far from useless. I like killing guys faster, idk about you

He seems like a slow roaster, but I think he just doesn't understand the power that is the microwave.
sneeekypants
8 years ago
"JinSaotome;993653" wrote:
Health down is pretty useless right now. It needs to be reworked into something else. You're basically trying to kill a character 20% faster, but against the clock before health down expires. Except it doesn't affect protection.

What health down should do is allow attacks to bypass protection for a chance of killing a character by directly attacking their health. Or something like that, because as it is there's no real purpose.

The ability requires more thought than Rebel shoot them with a blaster for damage. It was released to be used in conjunction with the other new sith abilities.

Even if it expires, it has the function of doing extra damage to anything that damages health whether it be due to protection being gone or a special ability that bypasses protection.

You will notice it the most in later rounds once the protection is gone, making them easier to kill by "amplifying" damage.
VertigoBeast
8 years ago
"Donkeysaurus;995828" wrote:
I'm also curious about the formula and mechanics of health down. But I think in the case of DN zeta unique you guys might be missing the boat. It's applied every turn to every enemy in a loop so long as DN is alive. So the simplest way to analyze it is that save for cleansing and resists you have 20% less Health to burn through. So its like a constant expose which heals will not replenish since Max health is capped.

Yup its a pretty good debuff to have constantly applied, but it won't be very effective against a team with tenacity up.
NicWester
8 years ago
"Donkeysaurus;995828" wrote:
I'm also curious about the formula and mechanics of health down. But I think in the case of DN zeta unique you guys might be missing the boat. It's applied every turn to every enemy in a loop so long as DN is alive. So the simplest way to analyze it is that save for cleansing and resists you have 20% less Health to burn through. So its like a constant expose which heals will not replenish since Max health is capped.

Good point. Solid point. But the original question is about Health Down as a counter to Nihilus =P