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NotRealUltra
2 years agoSeasoned Newcomer
"MaruMaru;c-2422358" wrote:"Ultra;c-2422354" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2422349" wrote:I still don't understand what's the direction of the creep you are talking about?"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2422344" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2422336" wrote:"PeachyPeachSWGOH;c-2422330" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2422306" wrote:"BubbaFett;c-2422280" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2422278" wrote:"BubbaFett;c-2422277" wrote:"MaruMaru;c-2422276" wrote:
But yea, be my guest pretend playing as if investment viewpoint justifies the current reva power level. Then change your tune once cg cuts to toon to a lower size. No surprises there xD
Why shouldn't Reva beat GL?..... She certainly requires a lot more investment...
I didn't say she shouldn't beat a gl. This is not a boolean equation of "beat a gl y/n."
Maybe not, but it is the topic of the thread and the original post.....
If you aren't concerned about Reva beating GL then what exactly are you concerned about?
There are degrees of things. Like I said it's not "does this thing beat a gl?". I have all the gl and I'll soon have her unlocked. I still don't like the severity of power shift. Do you have first hand experience playing with or against her?
In short power creep begets power creep. Power has always crept as this is the nature of this type of games. This particular creep is too much creep in my experience so far.
If you are unlocking Reva soon, you are probably in one of the elite guilds, and are having it unlocked easily, relatively speaking. For the rest of us, it takes a lot more effort, not just by each of ourselves, but a whole guild, to unlock her in, say, 9-12 months realistically. Maybe from a raw material standpoint she is still a less expensive investment than a GL, but she certainly is much harder.
While what an elite guild is rather subjective, I don't consider mine an elite guild at 480m gp. We are in the follow-up crowd that will -naturally- unlock her. And we are rather pulling lower than surrounding guilds on this...which doesn't matter due to the few months difference I mentioned. We are bad at win ratio too. In a way it's great that it gives lower guilds a goal to yearn towards. Even after the expected nerf if done properly, that yearning will exist. But by the time you burn through the year on your end, we'll be in post-reva territory that will occure as a result of reva on further meta releases. You won't be complaining about reva herself, but the following absurdities that she cause if it stays as is.
I mean, "naturally" is subjective too, and a wide spectrum. The bottom line (to OP's point) is still that the level of difficulty, as in the time, attention, and joint investment it takes, to unlock her for most of the players is definitely comparable to unlocking a GL. So I don't see why power wise she shouldn't be comparable to a GL too.
If you were to compare her current power level to gls, which gls would her team be comparable to? Surely all gls aren't equivalent too either from power differential or investment perspective.
By naturally I meant the guild gp threshold where most of your members doesn't have all that much left to work on, people are at 5-7 gls etc. Then even if not for reva, we would have raised this new team too. The only extra ask from cg is a few extra relic levels which most wouldn't push for otherwise.
Obviously I'm not trying to protect gls whatsoever as some polemicists love to draw the sides at. Those sides don't exist, we are in a similar boat if as endgamers (and I mean probably you also as you and your guildies are close to getting some amount of shards per tb). It's about the overall direction of creep.
She allows one shot of defensive GL teams, is that a bad creep? I would imagine people would welcome that
What direction do you think the creep is going towards that we need to be concerned for?
I think i'm terrible at understanding so can you make it simpler for me what you dislike about Reva if you're not trying to protect GLs?"MaruMaru;c-2422336" wrote:
You won't be complaining about reva herself, but the following absurdities that she cause if it stays as is.
Can you explain what you mean by following absurdities?"MaruMaru;c-2422328" wrote:
The thing with creep is the next step in that creep. Another instance of high creep came with first revan, 2nd revan and gas following up which led us to the gl era. It was a plausible move from cg given that they couldn't contain the creep without establishing a new ceiling. It was just a natural cascade of the previous year that can not be ever taken back at some point.
?????????
This game had no power creep since GL Rey / SLKR came out, power levels are capped at GLs
I'm not sure why you are bringing something CG stopped doing for 4 years now, i would think 4 years of CG not doing anything close to that is a sign that's not happening
Am I correct in understanding that all your arguments for nerfing Reva is this imaginary power creep that you are envisioning that is going to happen? That I'm not seeing signs of and hasn't happened in the last 4 years?
Power has always crept including each single gl. It's the difference between velocity and acceleration, the rate of the creep. As I do not value your opinion since it's a visibly skewed one from my perspective and exists for the sake of it rather than yet another normal player I won't go further. I don't believe current power differential of reva was intended either.
Value my opinion or not i’m sure many will disagree that power was crept and increased when SEE / JML came out vs Rey / SLKR
I don’t believe power creep occurred when LV came out either
Regardless of my opinion whether how balanced Reva is, I don’t think my opinion even matters, your stance the entire thread has been “Reva needs to be nerfed because of power creep” is extremely vague
I still don’t understand what power creeping Reva is doing but explaining the term power creep with power creep isn’t an explanation
and this isn’t my opinion, it’s trying to understand terminology so that we can have a healthy debate / argument which you don’t want to do with me because you have some issues against me and that’s fine
At least i can explain my point of view “Reva isn’t power creeping” with concrete examples
I don’t think “not as many counters” is a reasonable argument unless you define how many counters is considered not as many
But yes, just disregard my posts trying to use numerical data assignment and facts as “my opinion”
From my point of view you are just writing paragraphs that amount to nothing and at least i have an opinion, i don’t think you are even presenting an opinion :smile:
And with that i am checking myself out of this thread since you have no interest in having a healthy discussion in trying to make me understand what you think is an issue with Reva
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