Is F2P dying a slow death?

"CoastalJames;c-1636090" wrote:

"alaskanseminole;c-1636023" wrote:

"TehUldan9001;c-1635594" wrote:
OP : No

ground breaking analysis. ;)

He's right though ;)


Pay or don't pay. Right now, and for as long as I've played the game, it's more than possible to enjoy it and do well by playing for free. Sure, you have to wait longer for new stuff...so be it, who's in a rush?

If it does become impossible, in your opinion, then time to rethink whether you want to play or not. The decision is entirely yours.

Rumours that "arggggh the skies going to fall in", threats like "anymore of this and I'm leaving!"...add up to little, if not nothing.

The game is the game. Play it, or don't play it.

Never said it was impossible.

Never said the sky is falling.

I simply asked the question because the game doesn't appear to be as balanced as it once was. Been playing almost 3 years and I'm in a 170mil+ guild. I hold my own, but can't help but notice the direction the game is headed. I'm still having fun, but I not sure for how much longer.

I think it's a fair question and by the looks of all the responses, it's on other gamer's minds as well.

F2P should be in good shape and history exemplifies that. I'm on a day 1 shard, and a F2P that couldn't unlock CLS first time around was able to use a Boba lead / mixed meta squad to climb to 1 each day and beat other CLS squads. CLS was about as gamebreaking a toon as has been introduced in GoH, yet he persisted. Did he drop further on D? Sure! But he was still competitive and could win on offense. Traya also presented this situation, and some F2P did have issues winning for a while, but eventually they unlocked Traya as well and were able to pretty quickly catch back up. From what I've observed over 3 years nearly, F2P can have some bumpier road at times, and they can maybe fall back a bit temporarily, but as a meta begins to season they end up on the same footing as whales. Unless the meta shift is really hard, F2P won't skip a beat. Like during 2017, when the meta mildly morphed from various iterations of Chaze / GK / Rex / CLS / Han / R2 / Wiggs where you'd maybe replace one toon or so at a time, but the team mostly remained unchanged, there was no dropoff at all. Just stick the course.

Speed is overrated a bit. It's important, but RPS matchups and smart play is MORE important.

"alaskanseminole;c-1636103" wrote:

"CoastalJames;c-1636102" wrote:

"alaskanseminole;c-1636099" wrote:
Never said it was impossible.

Never said the sky is falling.

I didn't say you'd said either :smile:

Then we're in complete agreement then. ;)

Wow, someone is in complete agreement on the forums and it didnt break the internet. Weird :smile:

Top 25 guild, and have lost 20% of our members in the last two weeks to quitting the game. Thanks to the g12+ reward setup, and now mod update which will continue to further divide the player base power and abilities. Hoped CG would see this coming before it happened as to make corrections and avoid it, but sadly it’s already happening.

Patience is the biggest part of being a f2p. As long as you do your dailies and log on everyday and don't waste the crystal you earn. You can have a couple thousand to ten thousand crystal in no time (3 to 4 months) to use towards purchasing toon shards out of the shipments store.

Here’s my experience: I started playing in December 2017. Between then and now (September 2018), Capital Games has received $20 from me. That’s all they’re going to get. I often work during my arena payouts. My guild won’t be heroic sith ready until several months from now. And yet...

I’ve been top 20 in fleet arena since a week after I unlocked it, and regularly hit top 10. I’ve only ranked out of top 50 in squad arena twice in the last 4-5 months, and get to top 20 more often than not. I have Palpatine, Thrawn, raid Han, General Kenobi, Grandmaster Yoda, Commander Luke, and all the characters ready to get Jedi Training Rey when she comes next. And my guild has a 22-5 record in territory wars, so we must be doing something right! (message me if you want to join)

I know that there is a lot more waiting involved for free players and low spenders, but that’s always been the trade off for these type of games. Are there things about the game that frustrate me? Certainly! But it’s still one of the best games from the perspective of a free player. The biggest thing I like about Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes is the time while you’re waiting to improve characters or unlock the next one is still fun. In so many games, if you don’t have a certain thing, the game just isn’t fun without it. But this game manages to be fun most of the time, which, alongside the appeal of interacting with my excellent guild mates, is why I continue to play.

"Kai_Mulai;c-1636880" wrote:
Here’s my experience: I started playing in December 2017. Between then and now (September 2018), Capital Games has received $20 from me. That’s all they’re going to get. I often work during my arena payouts. My guild won’t be heroic sith ready until several months from now. And yet...

I’ve been top 20 in fleet arena since a week after I unlocked it, and regularly hit top 10. I’ve only ranked out of top 50 in squad arena twice in the last 4-5 months, and get to top 20 more often than not. I have Palpatine, Thrawn, raid Han, General Kenobi, Grandmaster Yoda, Commander Luke, and all the characters ready to get Jedi Training Rey when she comes next. And my guild has a 22-5 record in territory wars, so we must be doing something right! (message me if you want to join)

I know that there is a lot more waiting involved for free players and low spenders, but that’s always been the trade off for these type of games. Are there things about the game that frustrate me? Certainly! But it’s still one of the best games from the perspective of a free player. The biggest thing I like about Star Wars Galaxy of Heroes is the time while you’re waiting to improve characters or unlock the next one is still fun. In so many games, if you don’t have a certain thing, the game just isn’t fun without it. But this game manages to be fun most of the time, which, alongside the appeal of interacting with my excellent guild mates, is why I continue to play.

How dare you be sensible, reasonable and positive!

People like you give internet discussion forums a bad name!

$10 on fortnite vs 50K on this game. Easy decision lol

As a Minnow or possibly even a dolphin? player, I’ve lost a lot of motivation because of Traya and the exclusive g12+ pieces available only to whales. Arena has become ridiculously annoying with Traya now taking up the top 20. The STR is also a massive burden in this game and I find myself auto’ing it due to the horrible rewards and even more horrible gameplay.

Honestly, there isn’t much to look forward to at the moment. No new legendary or heroes makes the game stale. Too many marquee toons frozen behind paywalls....and the list just goes on. I’m losing interest....fast.

"Abflexer;c-1637590" wrote:
I think playing competitive as a complete F2P from the beginning is nearly impossible. But tbh that's okay. You can't expect to get anything for free in life.
The question is more, how much you have to spend, to play competitive. So for me, starting in February 18, it was around 300 Euros to get where I am. I never thought I'd ever spend that much on a mobile game, but tbh the 90 Bucks for Des****2 were a harder waste of money. While Level phase, I had to spend to catch up with the people at high arena ranks. When this was over, there was no need to spend any more, since crystals from arena (mostly 1 or 2) and ship arena (Top 5) fuel anything of relevance. Obviously I can not get every shiny marquee toon to 7* right away. That's fine. Most of them are useless anyway. I earn enough crystals to buy those mod salvage thingies from weekly shipments, so no real advantage for whales over me.
If you people now cry over not having energy to buy all the energy refreshs, I can only say "Get your priorities straight". Get your arena teams viable (Gear and Mods) first, then with any crystals you have spare, invest in future/fun projects. There is absolutely no need to chase every Meta and espacially Nest, who lots of people strive for, is not a necessary toon in any aspect of the game. If you want her... Okay fine. But if you priorise her over the obvious right choice (Arena Teams), don't cry if this won't pay out.
So no, complete F2P isn't dying a slow death. It wasn't ever alive this year.
Spending a bit on the other side is perfectly alive and can compete with full whales, while they obviously get to highest end content (HSTR) faster and that's okay.

People forget when they want to throw how they are F2P and in top 10 in arena and fleet that it all depends on your shard as well. Take my shard for instance it is full of whales. It's nothing for me to run into a NS, Empire or CLS team with 3 + zetas and complete G12 gear in the 900 range of my arena shard. The top of my shard is even more ungodly. It is the same with in my fleet arena. Just at the 200 range I'm looking at 190k ship power with 7 star ships across the board. The top 50 are insane.

Some people get lucky and either get put on a half dead shard or maybe it's made up of more F2P but as far as my shard goes no F2P stands a chance really. So you can't sit there and say it's doable just because you have managed it in your shard. I would gladly let you visit my shard and you fight against the top 400 whales with 4mil+ GP.

CG should have really instated a graduated server style system. That way newbies get placed with newbies. Medium level with medium and so on. It would keep new players from quitting and also allow a general curve progression. That way the krakens and whales with ridiculous GP, God mods, and everything else can square off against each other in a fair fight while giving players progressing through the ranks a chance to see what it's like to fight for top spots.

As it stands now you have some on dead servers where they have no competition and just breeze through everything. They have enough servers open now with alot of the early ones full of dead accounts. They need to pull those accounts start filling those servers up again. If the player comes back then he could be placed in the approximate server based off his overall roster and whatever stats would be needed to decide the level of server he needs to be at.

Right now they just fill up a shard with the first 20k people. Under this system if you end up with a shard full of just say 5k whales you are guaranteeing that new players will never see anywhere close to the top 500 and probably barely break into anywhere close to 1k.

Quite a few games have already adopted similar systems because by all rights whales should fight whales or anybody with a highly developed roster that can hang at that type of level. It's incredibly depressing in my server seeing G12 and 3 zeta plus squads in my shard as low as 1k to 700 which is the highest I have ever been able to get. Realistically very few new people would stick around if they had a shard like mine and I'm sure mine isn't the only one that has an over abundance of whales and krakens.

It's not healthy for the life of the game to have dead shards and shards way out of balance. It's time they readjusted the shards to a graduated system IMO.