Is the player base demanding too much?

"Schwartzring;c-2125578" wrote:

"Mephisto_style;c-2125385" wrote:
Many years ago a person I know told me he quit World of Warcraft because it required him to change his lifestyle. Raid scheduling, dailies, etc...

And their timing of events just always boggles me.
A Saturday will have nothing but an Omega battle for me to do when I have the day off.
But a Wednesday when I have work all day & then Dinner & a meeting of the Home Owners Association at 7PM will be the day they launch both an Assault Battle & a Mythic Battle that I'm trying to cram in by midnight & loosing sleep.



The entire set up of tick tick energy for the day but then your capped after 1/2 a day of earning it forcing you to sign on every few hours is a horrible set up from the start.


And the sad thing is, SO much of that tedium could be removed with just a few changes.

1. Grant 4 free "refreshes" of the stores every "day" & stop the stores from refreshing.
So you can see the same # of items but do it on your time.

2. Increase the Energy Cap. Set it build up for a few days.
The formula is Level + 59. Change it to "Level *5 + 100"
That way if we miss a day no biggy you can just play longer later.

Those are just 2 above that could be fixed easily, IMHO, to allow for less logging in or more logging in when you WANT to log in.

I think that would be huge QoL improvement. Not sure how it would work with mobile games tracking log ins, clicks, all that stuff as sort of akin to "tv ratings", but it would be a welcome change in my view.

But another huge QoL improvement would be setting an event to be on a week schedule. Just give us all the assault battles and other non-character release event on a week schedule and cap the number of refresh to the level it would have been when released in a day. That way people could cram in a event marathon session over the weekend or a slow day in between guild events and such.

"ZAP;c-2125628" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:

"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:

"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.

We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.

Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.

Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.

They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.

You show the community every day how much you care about the game and the community.

CG shows the community every day how much they don’t care about the community and only care about money.

You talking to some staff there does not mean you can possibly know they care, just as much as none of us can possibly know for a fact they don’t care. What we can see, however, are actions that show the exact opposite of caring for the community and its concerns.

Whatever happened with the beta test program? Not a single update on that yet.

Whatever happened to the dev tracker? Not a single word or update on that, despite top hat saying he was gonna have a meeting to discuss it and get back to us.

The list goes on and on.

Obviously everyone has there own perspective on things, but just saying they dont care doesn't make it true.

You mean the new version of it that they announced was launched and is in its early stages and what not:
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/227487/player-early-evaluation-test-program#latest

The tracker, yeah that's got an interesting back story to it right now. Hopefully they iron things out there.
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Sure there are things on both sides of the argument, but its true they do care.

Just like pointing out that some of things that are said here dont mean that some of the players dont care, are not necessarily true.

"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:

"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:

"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.

We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.

Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.

Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.

They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.

None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesnt change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.

"Legend91;c-2125801" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:

"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:

"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.

We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.

Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.

Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.

They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.

Let the actions speak. And so far the actions have indicated the opposite.

And a biased view will always show you what want it to.

"MrSasquatch;c-2125803" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125800" wrote:

"Potato211;c-2125633" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125620" wrote:

"Potato211;c-2125618" wrote:

"Kyno;c-2125612" wrote:

"TheLegionGuard;c-2125609" wrote:
The community needs COMMUNICATION right now, not another character that is a deaf and blind response to their customers.

We are just that, customers. They have ZERO regard for what is needed.

Yes we need them to communicate, but in no way was this character a response to anything.

Awful timing then, which proves further they either don't care or ignore us... which is the same.

They do care, if you are interested in knowing the truth.

None of us except you see proof that they "Care". Your word rings hollow. If they cared and gave a crap about the community the they would have been more open and communicative with us.

I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. What you think about me or my words doesn't change the truth. That's the wonderful thing about the truth.

I can appreciate that there is a factual truth that isn't affected by anyone's opinions. In this case, we just have to take, literally only, your word about what the truth is. If I kept the truth in a box and wouldn't show it to anyone else, could I blame anyone for not believing me?

I fully believe it's possible that CG has told you or shown you that they care about the community's response. That's great. Now show us. In this case, the old adage is true, actions speak louder than words. But we don't even have words.

Do you feel they have never taken actions that would make you think they care?

Do you feel that them putting a lot of work into the back end to try and deliver something that improves the game, is a sign that they care?

Do you think responding to the demands of a "single person" is showing they care? (I know its more than 1 person, but he had other "demands" and anything they say right now would be seen as a response to them)

The OP to this post is suggesting that veteran players should leave because "what they want is too much", yet they have communicated very recently that they are working on a way to produce content..... which is what the OP is saying they are "demanding".... so the whole thing seems odd.

I agree they should communicate more and "show us" they care, but as I said earlier, just saying they should doenst make it quicker or easier to do so. Unfortunately that is not an easy thing to accept and some people will not. We have all lost friends as time has gone on in this game, some base their choices to leave on the dev team and their actions. Some of us choose to enjoy the game as we see fit and try to work towards things being different/better.

Everyone is going to want different things from this game and those thoughts and feelings may or may not line up with the plans the dev team has. This doesnt mean they dont care or they only care about $$, because they know there is no game without a community and they care about the community to help carry and grow what this game is into the future.

"LordGrahck;c-2125804" wrote:

"Mephisto_style;d-231202" wrote:
As a game to an incoming player it has a lot to do.

The beef comes from the older accounts. I don't believe anyone complaining is still working on Traya.

Perhaps the players, including myself, with complaints about the lack of new content and communication should simply move on?

I'm still working on Traya and I share in the "beef" others have with CG. It seems like anymore that the only way to get word one from CG is to be a cheater.

Oh, well not to dismiss your point but it seems you are mentioning the atrocious communication here, while the particular point I was discussing there was " veterans lacking interesting things to do." Veterans would not complain anywhere near as much if there were more things to do other than simulation farming upon logging in.

"NicWester;c-2125833" wrote:
I can only speak for myself here, but I agree with the original premise 100%. This is a very good game, but if it doesn't make you happy any more then you should move on to a new game. Splatoon came out 5 years ago, are you still playing it two hours every day? If so, convratulations, I'm happy that you found a game you enjoy so much! But if you spend more time on the Splatoon forum complaining that there isn't enough for you to do, then maybe you should just buy a new game.

To quote a weird man, "It's only game. Why you heff to be mad?"

Maybe you expect something new to be added into the game that will recapture the magic of when you started--but the magic of when you started was that every day you would collect new and more interesting characters and those characters would help you build towards other characters. There was a simple iterative process: Work on Jedi Consular to make GW easier so you could get Luminara so you could go further in the tables to get Rey so you could finish better in Arena. By now your characters are pretty much done. Whether that means they're all worked on or only the "good" ones are worked on and the rest aren't even unlocked is your call. I find it fun to level up even characters I'm not going to use (point of pride--I have 6 abilities left on my roster that aren't Omega'd yet! By the end of the month I'll be set so that the only abilities left to upgrade are zetas!) so I'm not done yet. But if you look at the newest characters and lament "What do you MEAN I have to put gear on Leia? Ughggghghhghghhhhh...." then you probably don't find it fun. So, again, just move on. It's okay. The game will continue without you, there'll be new players who get to experience that initial magic. Meanwhile you can go to some other game and start the cycle over again--magic, then plateau, then boredom, then anger.

I agree with much of what you wrote. I'm pretty sure my original post was a suppositiin though, and not just reflective of my own situation. I will reiterate my original idea here:
- Does it seem that 4-5 year veteran players are lacking interesting content faster than CG can/is creating it, given that the game already has more content than many mobile games?

"Katsapliakos;c-2125829" wrote:
Kyno and the devs still got the dev 101 thing wrong,you dont change the plans according to your beliefs you change them according to what the community wants and according to your competitors.All you competitors make live pvp,they have sandbox mode and yet you are not doing those,you are as ignorant as ever i guess.If you had a generic ip ,game would have shut down after 3 months.

To make a much more simple analogy of it,its if you run a restaurant and noone is eating you food,then you got to change the recipes and the dishes,its plain simple.This is how some mobile games thrive still over the 5 year mark,couse they actually listen to what their customers want.

There seems to be a general consensus that the live PvP in MSF is not so great. So while they should try to incorporate things that we want. They also have to balance that "effort" with what will be an "effective add".

Is the current plan they are discussing not a change to the recipe?

The need for communication is another thing I don't really understand, if I'm being honest. I check updates every couple days and when there's a Q&A I read the questions that seem interesting. But I'm not going to stand out front of CG's office blasting Peter Gabriel from a boombox over my head.

I miss when Carrie and other devs would just post casually in threads--nothing major, just a gif or something. But the game got too big for that. If we started a thread about who the best character with the letter F in their name was back in the day, some dev might chime in with the merits of Boba Fett versus Grand Moff Tarkin or ask if Bastila Shan (Fallen) counted. Now if they did that--well, for one, if WE did that, that thread would be ignored because it isn't complainy enough--but if THEY did that, they'd be inundated with "Is this what you're doing instead of making new content?"

Communication is for smaller games. I would LOVE for it to last with bigger games, but it's one of the first casualties of success. Folks just need to accept that.

"NicWester;c-2125857" wrote:

Communication is for smaller games. I would LOVE for it to last with bigger games, but it's one of the first casualties of success. Folks just need to accept that.

No, no. Being able to communicate and interact with the community isn't something strictly set for "Small games". The issue here is that after months of radio silence about IMPORTANT GAME STUFF if they just came out of the woodworks with a puzzle the reaction would be met according to how they've been handling the communication department: "Is this what you do when Rome is burning?"

I wouldn't care them chiming in on "Favorite charachter with F" or stuff like that if they kept the game updates consistent and such.