Kyber result

"BryGuy2k;c-2144417" wrote:
His roster is specifically built to exploit the matchmaking system to get opponents that absolutely have no chance of winning and for which he can solo or 2-man most teams.

Oh really?

My roster is specifically built to let me keep as many resources as I can in my pocket for surprises like JKL. GAC MM happens to just be an extra benefit of doing so.

"Lysandrax;c-2144445" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144313" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144183" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:

"Fhoenix;c-2144177" wrote:

:D two no shows and a half attempt... yep ... totally better at GAC @Rath_Tarr

Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

If you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because of your opponent. They have set awful teams.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They actually set normal defense for their GP range. I see both DR + Malak, JKR lead jedi, NS, Geos, Padme + GR, Shaak Ti + clones, GG + sep droids, Nute teams etc. They are not setting weak teams for their GP range. Yet Bus 74 still undersized most battles.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

In bold undermines everything you have said and is what is actually being discussed.
Not only does it undermine what you've said here but in every single one of these threads where you try to say match-making is fine when it obviously needs some touch ups.

This Bus74 guy seems to know what hes doing, yes in the battles but foremostly in the match-making.

Now once more, if you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because your opponent has set an awful defence.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They are not setting weak nor awful defenses for their GP range.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

"Waqui;c-2144494" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144445" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144313" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144183" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:

"Fhoenix;c-2144177" wrote:

:D two no shows and a half attempt... yep ... totally better at GAC @Rath_Tarr

Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

If you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because of your opponent. They have set awful teams.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They actually set normal defense for their GP range. I see both DR + Malak, JKR lead jedi, NS, Geos, Padme + GR, Shaak Ti + clones, GG + sep droids, Nute teams etc. They are not setting weak teams for their GP range. Yet Bus 74 still undersized most battles.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

In bold undermines everything you have said and is what is actually being discussed.
Not only does it undermine what you've said here but in every single one of these threads where you try to say match-making is fine when it obviously needs some touch ups.

This Bus74 guy seems to know what hes doing, yes in the battles but foremostly in the match-making.

Now once more, if you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because your opponent has set an awful defence.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They are not setting weak nor awful defenses for their GP range.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

While I do not at all want to discredit what Bus 74 has done, and mostly agree with you that consistent high scores requires lots of crafting and practice in undersizing, it is equally wrong to dismiss the idea that the scores are inflated by weak defenses. Perfect evidence is the screenshot he shared; all sub g12 sep droids and phoenix are comically bad defenses for division 1. They would be comically bad for division 2 even.

"Bus074;c-2144483" wrote:
My take on feelings of entitlement - you spent big bucks, and you think you “deserve” to get ahead. You think it’s unfair since you spent the big bucks that you didn’t get ahead.

Amount of money I’ve spent in swgoh: $0.

Who mentioned deserving to get ahead? Maybe I missed someone's post.

I've spent plenty in the game, and I don't think I deserve anything other than maybe equalize the brackets a little. too much power has been introduced and the disparity between 4.5 and 8m is just too much. I commend you for what you are able to do with what you have, but respectfully it does not represent accurately Division 1.

I'd like to see how I stack against peers who have to fight not one but two Galactic legends and multiple "META" characters.

"littleMAC77;c-2144499" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144494" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144445" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144313" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144183" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:

"Fhoenix;c-2144177" wrote:

:D two no shows and a half attempt... yep ... totally better at GAC @Rath_Tarr

Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

If you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because of your opponent. They have set awful teams.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They actually set normal defense for their GP range. I see both DR + Malak, JKR lead jedi, NS, Geos, Padme + GR, Shaak Ti + clones, GG + sep droids, Nute teams etc. They are not setting weak teams for their GP range. Yet Bus 74 still undersized most battles.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

In bold undermines everything you have said and is what is actually being discussed.
Not only does it undermine what you've said here but in every single one of these threads where you try to say match-making is fine when it obviously needs some touch ups.

This Bus74 guy seems to know what hes doing, yes in the battles but foremostly in the match-making.

Now once more, if you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because your opponent has set an awful defence.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They are not setting weak nor awful defenses for their GP range.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

While I do not at all want to discredit what Bus 74 has done, and mostly agree with you that consistent high scores requires lots of crafting and practice in undersizing, it is equally wrong to dismiss the idea that the scores are inflated by weak defenses. Perfect evidence is the screenshot he shared; all sub g12 sep droids and phoenix are comically bad defenses for division 1. They would be comically bad for division 2 even.

This.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:
Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

Also, are you are saying that he is better at GAC because he pulled opponents who allowed him to be better?

He is better at GAC because he found a roster balance which is effective and has used it very successfully.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

in any event I think we have differing opinions of what better means.

Clearly.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

He is better at cheesing/manipulating the system allowing him to not face anyone who would be a threat to him / i.e. have chosen to gear up less PVP dominant and oriented characters.

GAC success starts with roster management.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

I would define better as being someone who has to face legitimate competition and emerges victorious.

By the rules of GAC he is doing just that.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

I only have to offer what I see in my experience, so this is my opinion, but if I were to try to replicate any of his praised and heralded "theory crafted" squads, I would simply never win a battle. even at R7 I can not take down a full r7 GG team not even sure if I could take down a full G12 team solo. I can use an R7 GAS to take down an R7 NS team, although I likely would lose some protection where he has not. I assume that I could use Wampa, that is if anyone in division 1 that I face would have the guts to place that in more of a team for division 2,3 etc..., and they were not relic'd and did not have Zeta's. Malak yeah, he can solo about anything for full banners, and I'd personally love to see someone set a Cad Bane lead with Mob Enforcer..

Yes, simply powering a bunch of toons up to r7 is not a good roster management strategy for GAC. Not news.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

So, yes circumstances are a bit different for someone who is fighting at near 8m GP fighting others with that same level of investment. While I do not 100% agree with the OP that if you have r0 you will be in the top, it sure is a lot easier to not fight a GL, not face actual competition that would require banner bleeds, or not being able to complete almost all of the feats day 1. I do not define that as better, maybe focused, but I would not say they are better than any of the other players in the top.

Again, GAC starts with roster management.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

Wonder who would win if they had a face off / final challenge bracket of the top 8 to claim the #1 spot.. Don't think good ol bus would fair too well..

The higher GP roster would win, proving absolutely nothing about player ability.

"Fhoenix;c-2144472" wrote:

PS I am not faulting him, he is simply gaming the system that is not indicative of legitimate competition.

He has built his roster to be competitive in the current system, simple as that.

"Lysandrax;c-2144479" wrote:

"Bus074;c-2144471" wrote:
134-867-158 are the droids you’re looking for.

The No.1 kyber player in division 1 is playing these teams.

Fantastic game CG. Outdone yourselves again.

He's also still scoring 1954 when playing against Reliced separatist droids and G12 geonosians.
When he's facing g12 geos he's winning with a duo. According to your GAC history, you're using a team of 4 - some times losing 1 - when facing g12 geos.
When he faced relic sep. droids he used JKR losing less banners than you did when you use your Padmé team against relic droids.

Yes, he's playing weaker rosters than you but he's also building and playing his roster better than both of us (with regards to GAC).

"TVF;c-2144502" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2144499" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144494" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144445" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144313" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144183" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:

"Fhoenix;c-2144177" wrote:

:D two no shows and a half attempt... yep ... totally better at GAC @Rath_Tarr

Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

If you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because of your opponent. They have set awful teams.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They actually set normal defense for their GP range. I see both DR + Malak, JKR lead jedi, NS, Geos, Padme + GR, Shaak Ti + clones, GG + sep droids, Nute teams etc. They are not setting weak teams for their GP range. Yet Bus 74 still undersized most battles.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

In bold undermines everything you have said and is what is actually being discussed.
Not only does it undermine what you've said here but in every single one of these threads where you try to say match-making is fine when it obviously needs some touch ups.

This Bus74 guy seems to know what hes doing, yes in the battles but foremostly in the match-making.

Now once more, if you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because your opponent has set an awful defence.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They are not setting weak nor awful defenses for their GP range.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

While I do not at all want to discredit what Bus 74 has done, and mostly agree with you that consistent high scores requires lots of crafting and practice in undersizing, it is equally wrong to dismiss the idea that the scores are inflated by weak defenses. Perfect evidence is the screenshot he shared; all sub g12 sep droids and phoenix are comically bad defenses for division 1. They would be comically bad for division 2 even.

This.

Seconded

"Bus074;c-2144483" wrote:
My take on feelings of entitlement - you spent big bucks, and you think you “deserve” to get ahead. You think it’s unfair since you spent the big bucks that you didn’t get ahead.

Amount of money I’ve spent in swgoh: $0.

Good Job Bus074!! Others hate what they don't understand. The same game rules apply to everybody; you just understand them better than most. And no one has mentioned what it takes with the other intangibles like modding.

Yes, expansion of Div 1 is long overdue. But that will do nothing to change the rules of the game or Bus074's achievement.

"littleMAC77;c-2144499" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144494" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144445" wrote:

"Waqui;c-2144313" wrote:

"Lysandrax;c-2144183" wrote:

"Rath_Tarr;c-2144181" wrote:

"Fhoenix;c-2144177" wrote:

:D two no shows and a half attempt... yep ... totally better at GAC @Rath_Tarr

Yep, better at GAC. All you have shown there is opponents' choices.

We don't control opponent selection or activity but we do control our roster, strategy and tactics and he has done so well enough to win all 12 matches with full clears and probably all feats, judging by his score.

If you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because of your opponent. They have set awful teams.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They actually set normal defense for their GP range. I see both DR + Malak, JKR lead jedi, NS, Geos, Padme + GR, Shaak Ti + clones, GG + sep droids, Nute teams etc. They are not setting weak teams for their GP range. Yet Bus 74 still undersized most battles.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

In bold undermines everything you have said and is what is actually being discussed.
Not only does it undermine what you've said here but in every single one of these threads where you try to say match-making is fine when it obviously needs some touch ups.

This Bus74 guy seems to know what hes doing, yes in the battles but foremostly in the match-making.

Now once more, if you're getting 1956 in GAC it is because your opponent has set an awful defence.

Check that GAC history again. You're not reading it right. They are not setting weak nor awful defenses for their GP range.

When you score 1950+ repearedly it's because you carefully theory crafted how to beat the defenses you're up against with undersized squads, built those squads and single characters just strong enough to do their job, modded them well to serve their purpose and saved them for offense. Bus 74 excels in this.

While I do not at all want to discredit what Bus 74 has done, and mostly agree with you that consistent high scores requires lots of crafting and practice in undersizing, it is equally wrong to dismiss the idea that the scores are inflated by weak defenses. Perfect evidence is the screenshot he shared; all sub g12 sep droids and phoenix are comically bad defenses for division 1. They would be comically bad for division 2 even.

Read my comment again. I'm not dismissing that he's up against weaker defenses than Lysandrax and I. I'm simply pointing out that his opponents don't set weak defenses relative to their GP range (or roster strength).

That screenshot is just one example. In another round he faced relic sep. droids, g12 geos, G12 OR (and weaker teams) and still he scored 1954. Yes, it's a weaker defense than Lysandrax and I face, but Bus 74 is also using his roster better than both of us.