Leader abilities when not in the leader position.

It would break the game imo. Leader abilities are generally very powerful, and you're supposed to pick only one. Imagine an zeta'd EP lead with zVader. All the dott's would disappear and come right back giving infinite turn meter.

not sure how that would work in many cases, leader abilities are not really designed to only effect that toon.

good example above, of zVaders lead. there are others too.

simple solution, just dont waste the resources on the abilities you dont want to use.

That would be great imo. But maybe have it worded then to act differently when not in the leader position. Using Vader for instance:

"When Darth Vader is not in the lead position this ability grants Darth Vader 30% offense, and a 50% chance to remove 20% turn meter when he damages an enimy. This tm removal cannot be resisted"

That way he still benefits from one of his abilities without him being to op

Otherwise my zeta on his leader ability just becomes useless when the next big bad empire/sith leader comes along.

its more about DoTs that can't be dispelled. also 30% offense is huge and then could stack with whatever leader ability put in there too.

it seems like it may break the game, and if not be a nightmare to balance from the dev side.

its interesting just maybe too complex.

It might be too complex, I'll give you that. It was just a thought I had today when I cringe looking at Vader's lead zeta'd and I don't use it anymore. Maybe make it part of the zeta portion of the ability? That way you're still picking and choosing what to upgrade, but if you spent the resources on it with a zeta it is still usable even when the leader portion is not anymore due to the evolving game.

"Immorta1lynx;c-1536070" wrote:
It might be too complex, I'll give you that. It was just a thought I had today when I cringe looking at Vader's lead zeta'd and I don't use it anymore. Maybe make it part of the zeta portion of the ability? That way you're still picking and choosing what to upgrade, but if you spent the resources on it with a zeta it is still usable even when the leader portion is not anymore due to the evolving game.

it is an interesting idea, but yeah too complex to have not been developed from the beginning with this in mind.

it would open up a whole new level of team building.

May be worth a look from the devs at least.

That’ll make a few teams quite degenerate like Resistance with both RJT and Zinn leadership active.
Or chuck in every evasion lead into the same team like Old Ben leading a bunch of Sith (Maul, Dooku). That’ll also devalue Unique abilities which function as a 2nd leadership ability. Metas come and go, you’ve got to accept that any investment into a leadership ability is sunk cost.

Why should I? As you say, META's come and go, but this would allow leader abilities to act as a second unique ability when not activated. There are plenty of toons with 2 uniques and no lead ability and the game isn't broken. It's the same thing. It's not like having two leader abilities active on the field. It only applies to the toon it belongs to. As I said, like a second unique, which many other toons have and the game functions just fine with them.