Levi is the worst meta ever!

"Ed1WanKenobi;c-2439457" wrote:
Who have you tried using so far? The chimera counter seems pretty solid, profundity is still viable and mirrors can be done.

So we soend that much resources not to use Levi?!? If that works for you, im happy for you. I've tried every way possible, nothing works. Even if i start first. I still loose. Yesterday, out of 8 battles won 1

I said in my first comment that mirrors work. I use a mirror everyday to climb against other Levis. Maybe you need to look at your strategy? I'm sure there's videos out there you could find.

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2439463" wrote:

"Ed1WanKenobi;c-2439457" wrote:
Who have you tried using so far? The chimera counter seems pretty solid, profundity is still viable and mirrors can be done.

So we soend that much resources not to use Levi?!? If that works for you, im happy for you. I've tried every way possible, nothing works. Even if i start first. I still loose. Yesterday, out of 8 battles won 1

I said in my first comment that mirrors work. I use a mirror everyday to climb against other Levis. Maybe you need to look at your strategy? I'm sure there's videos out there you could find.

Care to share your mirror strategy (vs. SA in starting lineup)? I understand if you don't. I have not found videos of post-buff, mirror strategy vs. SA (just the occasional one off win with no commentary) or vs. Dorito

"CrispyFett;c-2439483" wrote:

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2439463" wrote:

"Ed1WanKenobi;c-2439457" wrote:
Who have you tried using so far? The chimera counter seems pretty solid, profundity is still viable and mirrors can be done.

So we soend that much resources not to use Levi?!? If that works for you, im happy for you. I've tried every way possible, nothing works. Even if i start first. I still loose. Yesterday, out of 8 battles won 1

I said in my first comment that mirrors work. I use a mirror everyday to climb against other Levis. Maybe you need to look at your strategy? I'm sure there's videos out there you could find.

Care to share your mirror strategy (vs. SA in starting lineup)? I understand if you don't. I have not found videos of post-buff, mirror strategy vs. SA (just the occasional one off win with no commentary) or vs. Dorito

If your Levi and SA both go second you are almost definitely losing. Any win after that is just RNG, not strategy.

If your Levi goes first but your SA goes second, you're probably down to about 50/50 because they start the tm train and start spreading foresight which makes it pretty hard for you to do any tm training.

But otherwise, you just try to hit under protection as much as possible so your Levi gains more tm than their Levi. Never use Fury's heal while enemy SA is active, try to clear foresight so your SA can hit health for tm.

"CrispyFett;c-2439483" wrote:

"Notthatguyfrombefore;c-2439463" wrote:

"Ed1WanKenobi;c-2439457" wrote:
Who have you tried using so far? The chimera counter seems pretty solid, profundity is still viable and mirrors can be done.

So we soend that much resources not to use Levi?!? If that works for you, im happy for you. I've tried every way possible, nothing works. Even if i start first. I still loose. Yesterday, out of 8 battles won 1

I said in my first comment that mirrors work. I use a mirror everyday to climb against other Levis. Maybe you need to look at your strategy? I'm sure there's videos out there you could find.

Care to share your mirror strategy (vs. SA in starting lineup)? I understand if you don't. I have not found videos of post-buff, mirror strategy vs. SA (just the occasional one off win with no commentary) or vs. Dorito

Nothing massive, just the same things as others have said. Try and keep my units just below full health while spreading around on them. I also try and use the SA special ability against their bomber as much as poss so they don’t get healing immunity and can heal back to full health allowing me to get more TM regularly. On top of that only using Doritos AoE on their bonus turn to hit under protection helps. That’s worked for me even against SA in the lineup about 60/70% of the time.

"Ed1WanKenobi;c-2439538" wrote:
Today had 100% win with prof... but it's still poop that i cant use Levi on offense

You may not be able to, but as has been discussed, others are very much able to. Perhaps you should listen to the advice already given, and also try to find some videos or other guides to improve your use of it on offence.

Whoever said Prof is still reliable, that's absolutely false.

First of all it depends if SA or Dorito are in the starting lineup.

Second, it's an RNG fest that decides if you have a chance, starting with how many assists you get, which ship gets stunned, do you lose a ship, when SA is in starting lineup Mark gets often called in first therefor not instakilling one of your ships etc.

The Videos I saw are mostly against SA and the ones with Dorito are either 7 star Levis but not fully maxed out Pilots or ships it seems because some abilities are impossible to be used in that order/before the opponent if their ships are maxed/ pilots have 6 dot mods etc... or just pure RNG luck that does seldom happen.

So yes, you can still use Prof but it's far from reliable, especially if the opponent has the right mods, Relics and Dorito in the starting lineup. I really hate that some people talk about it as if it were an absolutely reliable counter and no big deal, which is not true and I will continue to point it out, because the second most expensive fleet in the game got devalued and I don't think that's ok.

And before someone gets any ideas, yes I have Leviathan.

"Lumiya;c-2439763" wrote:
Whoever said Prof is still reliable, that's absolutely false.

First of all it depends if SA or Dorito are in the starting lineup.

Second, it's an RNG fest that decides if you have a chance, starting with how many assists you get, which ship gets stunned, do you lose a ship, when SA is in starting lineup Mark gets often called in first therefor not instakilling one of your ships etc.

The Videos I saw are mostly against SA and the ones with Dorito are either 7 star Levis but not fully maxed out Pilots or ships it seems because some abilities are impossible to be used in that order/before the opponent if their ships are maxed/ pilots have 6 dot mods etc... or just pure RNG luck that does seldom happen.

So yes, you can still use Prof but it's far from reliable, especially if the opponent has the right mods, Relics and Dorito in the starting lineup. I really hate that some people talk about it as if it were an absolutely reliable counter and no big deal, which is not true and I will continue to point it out, because the second most expensive fleet in the game got devalued and I don't think that's ok.

And before someone gets any ideas, yes I have Leviathan.

Yeah, I haven't found prof to be reliable at all. Stopped even trying with it.

I'd love for the "it's easy bro, I win 100% of the time!" crowd to post videos of their 100% reliable proof and show like 10 battles in a row winning every time. Just once. lol

I'd also like to add, there appears to be a problem with the player's version of the Mark VI? You're supposed to be able to do an insta-kill with the basic after you have 40 STACKS. I was in fleet arena mirror with over 60 stacks a couple nights ago and it didn't do anything. Ranger was just doing his battle in a mirror and his Mk VI had over 50 stacks, did the basic and it didn't defeat the target.

I don't recall ships having a defeat immunity? It says instantly defeat enemy, not unless it's on offense. Unless I'm missing something that appears to not be working as intended according to the kit?

No I'm not going to try to recreate it. No I'm not going to put a bug report in. No I'm not going to link anything. No I'm not going to continue to beta test your game for you CG. Pay some people to beta test and fix this rubbish.

Going to lose another GAC match because I lost the dice roll against Leviathan. This is far worse than Exec or Chimera, where you could at least somewhat strategize and try to overcome bad RNG. And whatever bug is there with Sith Fighter makes the off-meta counters impossible.

Why did they decide to make one ship to rule them all? It’s the pinnacle of stupidity. Every yin needs a yang. Balance. Just like all the GLs are countered by some other GL, the Legendary ships should counter one another. Having to resort to extremely specific counters with extremely specific turn orders that still heavily rely on favorable RNG to possibly take down this meta ship is just asinine. Profundity beat Executor and vice versa. Balance. Profundity beat Leviathan and vice versa. Balance. Then some idiot decided that old meta shouldn’t beat new meta and voila… balance is trashed. Now my shard top 6-9 is the same Levi fleets circle jerking each other for top 5 every day. Sometimes I feel like the devs are playing a different game, one in which they are actively trying to ruin the game and see if people still spend. They need to revert the changes asap. It wasn’t broken before. Now it is.