Omegas

"Trias;c-1688164" wrote:

"Pan2218;c-1687065" wrote:
Thank you, I buy those. But what I am trying to say is that they are not there everyday, ok. Sometimes they are not available for days, other than completing dailies. I feel they should be more readily available & that they would be highly utilized. That is all. I know where they are & where they aren't. They say they are jn Cantina nodes, but I spent over 1600 energy, not recieving one. Thank you everybody for letting me know where they can be found. What I am trying to say is that it is not enough, or else it is way too inconsistent. Thank you

The Fleet Store refreshes four times per day. Omegas show up approximately half the time. Days with Omegas nver showing up are rare, and for every time it happens you will have many days with omegas showing up in the fleet store multiple times. Given that you can only acrue around 2000 fleet tokens per day, it is super easy to spend them all on omega mats if you wanted to.

It refreshes 12 hour increments that I know of. 1500 per Omega & they are not there all of the time. They should be there every day & all day is how I feel tho. But it is not very often 1 every other day or so.

"GambrinusKluk;c-1688320" wrote:
Omegas have never dropped at a good rate from cantina nodes, if I've gotten 3 omegas from cantina nodes in the last year I'd be incredibly suprised.
Best source for omegas is doing your dailies and the omega events that show up a few times a week. Also get in a guild that's winning TW and getting lots of stars in TB and you should have enough omegas to upgrade your important toons.

With every toon that I have, I never have enough lol like I'm saying, they are too controlling of the level one can compete at. I do all of those things & though stars in TB are rough, we seem to collect 35 area. But we are getting better on that. I'm just saying that they need to be more available. I thank everybody for their insight, but I wrote this for the fact that conserving materials that should be more available is not a viable means of farming for me. Just put more out there, Thats it! I'm not interested in conserving them

"Pan2218;c-1688702" wrote:

"GambrinusKluk;c-1688320" wrote:
Omegas have never dropped at a good rate from cantina nodes, if I've gotten 3 omegas from cantina nodes in the last year I'd be incredibly suprised.
Best source for omegas is doing your dailies and the omega events that show up a few times a week. Also get in a guild that's winning TW and getting lots of stars in TB and you should have enough omegas to upgrade your important toons.

With every toon that I have, I never have enough lol like I'm saying, they are too controlling of the level one can compete at. I do all of those things & though stars in TB are rough, we seem to collect 35 area. But we are getting better on that. I'm just saying that they need to be more available. I thank everybody for their insight, but I wrote this for the fact that conserving materials that should be more available is not a viable means of farming for me. Just put more out there, Thats it! I'm not interested in conserving them

It's not viable for anyone, but it is what it is. For the most part I use them as i get them. The only time i save is when i have 14 zetas, then i save so i can place that next zeta. Sounds like you do the same as me. No solution to this problem, they wont add more, nor should they. Collection games like this only end when your collection is complete.

Focus Zeta use on Arena characters first, once they are all maxed out, fill your raid teams. Once they are maxed out it’s up to you what you spend on.

Zetas are only more valuable if you have omegas to use them, the value is directly related , if you dont want to spend 1500 for an omega then dont , but they are just as valuable , as you can see from this thread, it seems nobody has enough omegas , but plenty of Zetas.

I. NEED. MORE. OMEGAS

"Pan2218;c-1687072" wrote:

"DarkHelmet1138;c-1686925" wrote:
you get one omega every day for dailies. So that's 30 a month. They run omega battles several times a month. So probably another 10 or so from there. They drop in the abilty mat challenges. Probably 10 a month there with bad rng. Then you get 2 for the mythic events that run a couple of times a week. So 4 a week or 15 or 20 from there a month.

Now I do well in fleet and buy zetas from the fleet store and can do all the zeta events. And I get 40 or 45 a month.

But you can easily get 60 omegas a month. A zeta ability costs 20 zetas and 13 to 16 omegas. So you get enough omegas to keep up with your zetas and then plus some even if my estimates are high.

But you don't get enough to omega every ability and not run out. But I also can't 7 star every character because I need the shards for that. And I can't bring every character to level 85 because the credit cost. Omegas are the same as every other resource. You can't upgrade every ability but have to choose which ones are worth it.

30 a month, or even 60 is not enough. There are over 140 toons & many of them need 30 mats to themselves. 30 a month would equate to over 30 years of collecting omegas. I understand that is not the exact case. I am just stating, that there is not a good start for debate there
I am now certainly paying closer attention to where I place them, which I find very unfortunate. What I am saying is that there needs to more access to them & or be more consistent with the distribution.
The name of the game is compete, but only be as competitive as we allow, also unfortunate. The ground battle that lasts for over a half an hour for 2 omegas is straight up garbage also. Not nearly worth the reward as omegas arent really that great. You just need them to complete Zeta.
after 2 years of this, I just feel that the distribution & ratio or rations, whatever a person calls it, is over do for re-evaluation.

Your math is off. With 140 toons needing 30 mats each. At 75 a month is 4.6 years. Still a long time but you don't need to omega every character. You can build a roster that does well in every part of the game without zetaing or omegaing many characters.

And the game is 3 years old so those that have been playing for 2 or 3 years aren't needing to omega 140 characters because they have half or 3/4 of them done. And new players can skip most of the ones that old players have done because they aren't relevant enough anymore because of power creep.

So a better measire would be to list the zetas and omegas of teams needed to do well in the game. And that's a lot less than 140 characters.

All true OP. I got 4 Zetas last Sunday from the Ship thing, and zero Omegas in a few days of farming.

"Hoffman72510;c-1690559" wrote:
And stop with the "every ability doesn't need to be omega'd" advice, that's just silly and once again probably comes from a high GP person. Nearly every ability NEEDS to be maxed, each omega usually adds a minimum of 15% damage or an additional effect on an ability, so that advice is basically saying don't use your squads to their full potential. Now if you were to add an addendum to that statement such as don't max abilities on characters you don't use then yes I agree, but if that character is level 85 and a gear level high enough to unlock omegas then that character is most likely being used in TW at the very least.

Your addendum is the point. I have 3 million GP, and at least 50 characters with no abilities above 3, so I don't even spend purples on them. And that causes me no inconvenience at all, those characters present little use. Even on good characters, there is often no need to increase the leader ability since they never lead.

This is a first and foremost a resource management game. Manage your energy, your crystals, your gear, and yes your omegas. I always need more omegas. But I also always need more carbantis/guns/cuffs, more energy for hard node farms and cantina farms, more good mods, more gold. Choosing how to spend your resources in an intelligent way is the key to this game. If you omega'ed your clones and now you can't omega your nightsisters, that's not CG's mistake for making omegas too rare - it's yours for making a poor choice.

"Hoffman72510;c-1690559" wrote:
I skipped over half the responses as they're all the same and this has probably been said too, but omega mats simply aren't worth 1500 ship currency and that's why I whole heartedly agree with the OP. I'm also willing to bet all you guys arguing against the OP and claiming they don't need a boost in drop rate most likely have a very high GP. I personally have 1.5 million and I'm in CONSTANT need, especially when 10+ are required for each zeta'd ability.

And stop with the "every ability doesn't need to be omega'd" advice, that's just silly and once again probably comes from a high GP person. Nearly every ability NEEDS to be maxed, each omega usually adds a minimum of 15% damage or an additional effect on an ability, so that advice is basically saying don't use your squads to their full potential. Now if you were to add an addendum to that statement such as don't max abilities on characters you don't use then yes I agree, but if that character is level 85 and a gear level high enough to unlock omegas then that character is most likely being used in TW at the very least.

Not really. I think you only need like gear 7 or gear 8 to unlock omegas. Not positive though. But for tw, Most of the teams I have that aren't developed beyond 85k or so and have good synergy end up sitting on the bench. If you place them on defense, they get steamrolled and they are too weak to get through the 90k+ teams that the opponent puts on defense.

Obviously this varies depending on the strength of your guild but basically any team that is below g10 or g11 is useless in tw in the guild I'm in. I have enough teams built up for tb for the most part and hstr req g11 or g12 for a team to be useful. Haat and pit req only one or two teams each.

So I build a new team at a time but the gear and stars take far longer than the omegas do to get. And I'm at about 2.8 mil gp so about mid to late game.

I actually have enough zetas and omegas to put a zeta and omegas on another character but haven't yet because I can't really find where it'll help. I have most of the ones that will help. Bastilla's lead was where I was leaning but with revan in the game now, it's going to be obsolete soon. But I'll eventually decide where to put it but I'm not desperately needing more when I can't decide where to put the ones I have.