I would like to premise this stating that I am not expressing my personal opinion on any group(s) of people, this is aimed at clarification of something in-game.As far as I am aware, Darth Maul is a male and is also referred to as one in-game. As shown here:So what exactly is "they" referring to in his new level 9 DC?Can CG or someone please clarify if this means Darth Maul gets revived (and, if so, why use "they")? Is it the whole team? Or is it all "maul" units?Thanks.

Most likely the text and Cron was created with no specific unit in mind i.e. a generic container and later , the actual unit was decided upon. "They" is not an uncommon way of being able to insert any character in without rewriting the text. Thus , it refers to the unit and only the unit that is revived. You can view the mechanics of each data Cron in more detail at swgoh.gg. Here you go. https://swgoh.gg/db/datacrons/9/ability/ability_set_maul_001/0/

Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here.

Thats because the original text for the ability is:DATACRON_CHARACTER_GENERIC_012_DESC:The first time {0} is defeated, they are revived with 100% Health, gain Protection Over Time (75%) for 2 turns, and take a bonus turn.so the "{0}" gets replaced with whoever the datacron is affecting. in this case Darth Maul

Because they're putting as little effort into datacrons as possible and are just recycling datacron sets now. In a few months we'll get another datacron exactly like this one but for Sorty, or Bossk, or Shaak Ti, or R2, or Satele Shan, etc.I'm curious what the other language versions will translate into because sometimes those are fun to hear about, as if they just use google translate. lol

"MrRandyWatson;c-2427262" wrote:"Enigmatic_Potato;c-2427248" wrote:Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here. The wording could be confusing especially for non-English speaking players. The poster asks if only Maul is revived (he) or if the entire team is revived (they). He/She is always singular. They/them can be singular or plural - thus the confusion here. I understand why CG would use these specific words but that doesn't mean it may not be a source of confusion to other players. That’s stretching. There is no confusion on whether it applies to the team or to maul alone.

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wildmannz
Seasoned Newcomer
2 years ago
Most likely the text and Cron was created with no specific unit in mind i.e. a generic container and later , the actual unit was decided upon. "They" is not an uncommon way of being able to insert any character in without rewriting the text. Thus , it refers to the unit and only the unit that is revived. You can view the mechanics of each data Cron in more detail at swgoh.gg.

Here you go. https://swgoh.gg/db/datacrons/9/ability/ability_set_maul_001/0/
EnigmaPotatoes
New Spectator
2 years ago
Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.

Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here.
Barbarossa5
New Traveler
2 years ago
Thats because the original text for the ability is:

DATACRON_CHARACTER_GENERIC_012_DESC:

The first time {0} is defeated, they are revived with 100% Health, gain Protection Over Time (75%) for 2 turns, and take a bonus turn.

so the "{0}" gets replaced with whoever the datacron is affecting. in this case Darth Maul
Whatelse73
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
Because they're putting as little effort into datacrons as possible and are just recycling datacron sets now. In a few months we'll get another datacron exactly like this one but for Sorty, or Bossk, or Shaak Ti, or R2, or Satele Shan, etc.

I'm curious what the other language versions will translate into because sometimes those are fun to hear about, as if they just use google translate. lol
drathuk916
Seasoned Novice
2 years ago
"MrRandyWatson;c-2427262" wrote:
"Enigmatic_Potato;c-2427248" wrote:
Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.

Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here.

The wording could be confusing especially for non-English speaking players. The poster asks if only Maul is revived (he) or if the entire team is revived (they). He/She is always singular. They/them can be singular or plural - thus the confusion here.

I understand why CG would use these specific words but that doesn't mean it may not be a source of confusion to other players.

That’s stretching. There is no confusion on whether it applies to the team or to maul alone.
Siffletons
2 years ago
"Enigmatic_Potato;c-2427248" wrote:
Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.

Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here.

My opinion on why it matters:

I see now, in this case, "they" is used as a third-person singular pronoun. The main issue I had is that it seems to me that "they" is ambiguous, whereas "he" is the most correct (to me, at least). "They" is more commonly used as as plural (maybe less-so these days). CG could have used "Darth Maul is" which could alleviate a need for a pronoun altogether :)

CG has strange wording on occasion, so there's no harm in clarifying. Even when they (CG) intends to make an ability or Datacron interact in a certain way it is not always the case. Apparently the LS Bastilla datacron does not work as it reads. I have not confirmed this, but a friend of mine says she must be in the leader slot for it to apply (which, if true, means the DC is not as valuable).

I'm 99% certain that the datacron only applies to your team, however, it'd be funny if the enemy Darth Maul revived when you killed him because of your own datacron lol. I don't want to assume as I'm a human that gets things wrong sometimes.

Thanks for taking the time to share your interpretation. Appreciate it mate.
MaydupNem
2 years ago
"they" can be and is used to refer to a person in a polite manner, regardless of their gender. The texts are probably streamlined so they can be used more widely - means less overall work.

Do not mix gender politics with how a language works.
M0st1yHarm1ess
New Spectator
2 years ago
"Siffy;c-2427321" wrote:
"Enigmatic_Potato;c-2427248" wrote:
Yep. The Ability Text is created generically so it can be reused for other units later on. You'll find all the Crons are like this.

Why does it matter which pronoun is used? They is gender neutral and is grammatically correct here.

My opinion on why it matters:

I see now, in this case, "they" is used as a third-person singular pronoun. The main issue I had is that it seems to me that "they" is ambiguous, whereas "he" is the most correct (to me, at least). "They" is more commonly used as as plural (maybe less-so these days). CG could have used "Darth Maul is" which could alleviate a need for a pronoun altogether :)

CG has strange wording on occasion, so there's no harm in clarifying. Even when they (CG) intends to make an ability or Datacron interact in a certain way it is not always the case. Apparently the LS Bastilla datacron does not work as it reads. I have not confirmed this, but a friend of mine says she must be in the leader slot for it to apply (which, if true, means the DC is not as valuable).

I'm 99% certain that the datacron only applies to your team, however, it'd be funny if the enemy Darth Maul revived when you killed him because of your own datacron lol. I don't want to assume as I'm a human that gets things wrong sometimes.

Thanks for taking the time to share your interpretation. Appreciate it mate.

Grammatically there is no confusion here. A pronoun always refers to a noun that comes before it. In this case there is only one noun before "they", which is "Darth Maul".
infidel2k
2 years ago
"Badger_Diaz;c-2427449" wrote:
“They” can be referred to anyone as a pronoun regardless of how they identify as a person.

I really don’t know why it’s a thread worthy conversation tbh. Does it really matter?

And, well, I think it’s quite clear what your personal opinion is of certain groups otherwise I doubt this thread would exist imo.

Not everyone that plays this game is an adult, or has a strong grasp of English grammar.

Don’t read into it, if for no other reason than we don’t need a political discussion here.
frieste33
New Spectator
2 years ago
"nfidel2k;c-2427453" wrote:
"Badger_Diaz;c-2427449" wrote:
“They” can be referred to anyone as a pronoun regardless of how they identify as a person.

I really don’t know why it’s a thread worthy conversation tbh. Does it really matter?

And, well, I think it’s quite clear what your personal opinion is of certain groups otherwise I doubt this thread would exist imo.

Not everyone that plays this game is an adult, or has a strong grasp of English grammar.

Don’t read into it, if for no other reason than we don’t need a political discussion here.

I had to delete several iterations of how I wanted to reply to that because I was trying to be civil. I eventually had to stop cause I didn't have anything nice or constructive to say. Appreciate the effort you put into your reply and it was well said.