QnA discrepancies

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

I didn't know you were the be all end all of the playing collective. Did you poll everyone?

Anecdotal.

"dalosto147;c-2097216" wrote:

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

Prove it.

I believe the appropriate troll statement is “Source?”

"littleMAC77;c-2097214" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2097210" wrote:

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

Why do you think we don’t have more positive and fun threads like your project 86 thread or Ultra’s fastest mod set thread?

I do know that generally people will take the time to complain about something rather than praise something, but if the game is in such a good state then why aren’t we seeing more positive and fun threads?

You answered your question in the first half of the sentence. I notice people coming here for 3 things: complaining about something, looking for news, and asking strategy/mechanics questions. People like myself who are positive about the game and are having fun don't feel the need to make a thread regularly expressing our enjoyment of the game as it doesn't really do anything for anyone.

Really? You think threads like TVFs and Ultras aren’t good for the forums? I happen to think they are and wish there was more of it here. I personally struggle with what positive fun thread I could contribute and that doesn’t sit well with me.

As much as I’ve not been a fan of CGDF in a lot of threads and posts, I can say that some do add fun and positivity to the forums. I think if the game were in a better state we might even see more of that.

"dalosto147;c-2097216" wrote:

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

Prove it.

I think the Q&A made this fact very clear

"ZAP;c-2097224" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2097214" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2097210" wrote:

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

Why do you think we don’t have more positive and fun threads like your project 86 thread or Ultra’s fastest mod set thread?

I do know that generally people will take the time to complain about something rather than praise something, but if the game is in such a good state then why aren’t we seeing more positive and fun threads?

You answered your question in the first half of the sentence. I notice people coming here for 3 things: complaining about something, looking for news, and asking strategy/mechanics questions. People like myself who are positive about the game and are having fun don't feel the need to make a thread regularly expressing our enjoyment of the game as it doesn't really do anything for anyone.

Really? You think threads like TVFs and Ultras aren’t good for the forums? I happen to think they are and wish there was more of it here. I personally struggle with what positive fun thread I could contribute and that doesn’t sit well with me.

As much as I’ve not been a fan of CGDF in a lot of threads and posts, I can say that some do add fun and positivity to the forums. I think if the game were in a better state we might even see more of that.

But TVFs is not a thread about expressing enjoyment, it is about a project in game, and yes it is great to see these threads. There are many threads on a daily basis that are not negative, its just anytime CG says or does anything there are posters who show up to complain and nothing else. The reason is that if you read something that CG says and go "cool, that sounds good" you are unlikely to create a "I agree with you CG" thread.

"Kyno;c-2096849" wrote:
They have explained where they are coming from with the "data", and they have other places where they monitor and talk with players.

agree or dont, they have some information about the situation. There are also other points that can be made:


- if a player has something going on IRL, anything not rewards based would probably be the first thing they dont play.
- not everyone will use it. plain and simple, a mode like this will without a doubt have the lowest % of interaction compared to modes that give rewards.

unfortunately there is no "simple compromise", once it is in game people are going to ask for upgrades and QOL, its a game feature and it would need attention as time moves on. in for a penny in for a pound.

I think the last reason there is one of the main reasons we have been dragged on for a while with a maybe, and now its more of a hard no. At one point it was considered, but now the long term investment of resources is just not something they want to considering investing in, because it would start to limit their ability to put out content.

Think about it, since the JG has been introduced, how many times have you redone events just for something to play?

from a business sense (not $$) it makes sense, its a large (and continuing) investment for a lower/unknown gain.

How can you say a sandbox mode - where you fight your own roster or created teams for testing will without a doubt have the lowest % interactions of all game modes? Just because other modes give rewards? I think you are 100% wrong

Did you intentionally not think about the players who...

Will finish their dailies in 10 minutes and spend hours playing in sandbox because they are bored and have nothing else to do in the game... or

Will play sandbox mode but have semi retired from competitive play so dont care about progressing they just want to use what they have unlocked for fun... or

Are super competitive and will want to test out every combination possible... or

The streamers who will record and post free publicity for the game on youtube by making their own creative videos using sandbox mode... or

The little kids who just like playing something for entertainment and dont really understand progression... or

I could keep going on there are a lot of types of players that would use sandbox mode MORE THAN REWARD MODES. Some may even say the majority of active players would.

Actually I can only think of a couple player types who would play rewards modes stuff more frequently than a sandbox mode =

lazy people and

people who only care about progression.

if you only care about progression then that means you do care about progression. If you care about progression as a #1 goal then your obviously competitive. Everyone who's competitive would want to experiment and make good use of a sandbox mode to improve their game knowledge and test out their teams before actual combat use. So people who care about progression only would by default use sandbox mode.

That leaves just lazy people. Oh and people who are super busy in real life which I doubt is a significant portion of the player base. Most people play phone games because they have additional spare time not because they are super busy in real life. Maybe I'm wrong and my doctor is playing star wars in between surgeries to get his 600 in and hitting the tank. Really doubt this is any sizable amount of CGs target market...

Anyways that just leaves lazy people

So your saying most of the player base is lazy and wont use a sandbox mode because there is no in game reward for their time investment?

Do you have any data to support your case? Or your just making up stuff to support CGs lack of excitement about being asked to make a sandbox mode.

But your thinking highlights exactly what's wrong with CG in my opinion.

Your thinking is essentially that people wont play it because there is no in game reward.

The reward is knowledge, actually playing the game, theory crafting and experimenting but all of this is meaningless to you and CG because it can not be boxed up and sold in q bundle for Crystal's. That's the real truth and reason why there will never be a sandbox mode.

In the end your probally right. If they did make a sandbox mode it would be so broken (like 100 Crystal's for 1 test fight) that no one would use it and it would be the event played by the lowest % of people. (Only because CG would try to monetize it heavily)

"littleMAC77;c-2097246" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2097224" wrote:

"littleMAC77;c-2097214" wrote:

"ZAP;c-2097210" wrote:

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

Why do you think we don’t have more positive and fun threads like your project 86 thread or Ultra’s fastest mod set thread?

I do know that generally people will take the time to complain about something rather than praise something, but if the game is in such a good state then why aren’t we seeing more positive and fun threads?

You answered your question in the first half of the sentence. I notice people coming here for 3 things: complaining about something, looking for news, and asking strategy/mechanics questions. People like myself who are positive about the game and are having fun don't feel the need to make a thread regularly expressing our enjoyment of the game as it doesn't really do anything for anyone.

Really? You think threads like TVFs and Ultras aren’t good for the forums? I happen to think they are and wish there was more of it here. I personally struggle with what positive fun thread I could contribute and that doesn’t sit well with me.

As much as I’ve not been a fan of CGDF in a lot of threads and posts, I can say that some do add fun and positivity to the forums. I think if the game were in a better state we might even see more of that.

But TVFs is not a thread about expressing enjoyment, it is about a project in game, and yes it is great to see these threads. There are many threads on a daily basis that are not negative, its just anytime CG says or does anything there are posters who show up to complain and nothing else. The reason is that if you read something that CG says and go "cool, that sounds good" you are unlikely to create a "I agree with you CG" thread.

I didn’t post about threads expressing enjoyment. You made that up and applied it to what I actually asked and posted.

I was very specific about fun project threads, not, Hey CG, we love you, keep up the good work!

I believe that if the game were in a better state that we’d see a lot more fun project posts or just fun posts in general.

There are a ton of us that love this game and really just want it to be more enjoyable. I’m doing my best to find fun things to do in game and maybe it’s just burn out or same old same old, but it’s gong tougher to get excited about logging in lately.

"TVF;c-2097205" wrote:

"Shadowmaster4;c-2097196" wrote:
the near violent reaction from the community upon hearing, both on and off the forums as well as in-game, disproves that a small majority would participate.

The loud complaining from the loud minority doesn't mean anything.

A person/ customer is 8x more likely to share a negative experience/ interaction with a business than a positive one.
All the people quoting this post can look into that if they want, idc.
But to say "it doesn't mean anything" doesn't mean anything.
The reason businesses try to appease the minority who are so vocal about their bad experience is because it obviously hurts them.
CGs communication however has been terrible. Sure, they just did a q&a, they effectively get to script the whole thing by picking their questions out. Point is, they hyped a new raid and shut it down, they hyped a mace rework and shut it down, they made us gear bad toons if we wanted the new GLs and they're not improving them. All that and they have barely had any meaningful communication with us in the first quarter.
They pulled their dev tracker from their friends over at apex legends, a team that is excellent at interacting with the community, despite being grossly toxic at times. And what state is the dev tracker in? Oh that's right, it hasn't been touched since Jan 9th.
CG has maybe a fortnights worth of work to show for their first quarter in a year said to have been an ocean of content.

This all became a rant v quickly..

All due respect.... the QnA proves they dont listen to the community.

"dalosto147;c-2096856" wrote:

"mickyluv;c-2096775" wrote:
Yeah, I just can't imagine the expense and time it would take to allow a player to set 5 of their characters on defence, and choose another 5 of their characters to attack that defence. You know, test out some teams.

Billions most likely.

Sandbox does not generate profits.
You would save all the crystals you would spend in the arena by asking a friend to switch teams for testing.
That simple.

battlesnot sure this is supported enough in this game to be true. If sandbox could = play more it could also = more bought crystals