Republic Offensive or Hoth?

The better question is, does your guild want GET2 or not?

Yeah, the rewards for 5-10 stars on LS Geo are better than Hoth at 45 stars because you have to rack up that GET2 and g12 salvage, both of which are much more plentiful on LS Geo even at low stars.

We're 220M+ (I don't remember exactly and things have been crazy lately with the GP-display bug anyway). We don't have a serious hope of increasing our star count through victory in battle - what we earn through deployments is pretty much all we're going to get.

That said, if you could sim HSTR or manually play Rancor, which would you do?

It's demoralizing if you go in thinking that you're supposed to win any of the actual battles. If you go in thinking it's like a raid sim, just deploy your toons and wait for your rewards to show up in your in-box, then it's fine.

We're taking that latter approach: everyone is expected to deploy, but there's no nagging about getting in battle attempts and no penalty if you don't try.

Theoretically it might be more fun to play content for lesser rewards, but goodness gracious, at 220M+ no one in our guild would be seriously playing any of the LS Hoth content until at best day 5, and quite a number of us wouldn't have to take it off auto until day 6 special missions.

You'll have to decide for yourselves, but we don't see the LS Hoth as enough of a challenge during regular play. A few of us don't have well-developed Rogue 1 teams, so there's a challenge on day6, but even there we don't actually need to finish all the waves on that mission to get 45 stars, so the challenge isn't meaningful - and again, it's only for a few minutes on one day.

So we don't see that we're going to get much extra fun in exchange for the rewards we give up by not "playing" LS Geo.

With not much fun to be had in either game mode, we're going with the rare rewards - GET2 and g12 salvage - over a bit of interest on day6 that ultimately doesn't even change our star count.

If I were in a 170M gp guild, I'd still go LS Geo, but I admit that at that level your combat success on day 6 still matters, so there's at least some meaningful game play to be had.

Whether 1-2 days of challenge for your members is worth lesser rewards is really the tradeoff you're considering. (As long as you can deal with the demoralization problem by changing your expectations to mere deployment, similar to simming rancor)

@Tanzos

CG really is doing themselves dirty making content people don't want to play.

This.

236 million GP - 50/50 split.

Some people are saying:
• I want get1 for malak
• I want get2 for nego
• I want the hoth 45 star achievement
• LS geo is not fun, nothing to do but deploy
• Hoth is boring, I just auto
• I want to have fun
• I am fine either way. Just happy to have a good group to run TB with.
• I haven't done a LS Hoth for around 6 months. I'm cool either way.
All the usual arguments for and against.

Our choice for TBs really should have been...
• LS Hoth vs DS Geo
• DS Hoth vs LS Geo

169 million gp

Geo

Doing hoth will put you hopelessly behind. If you can pull even 1* you should be doing ls geo for the GET2. This isn't what the devs intended but they obviously don't play the same game as the rest of us. If you think lsgeo is demoralizing it will be twice as demoralizing when you are fighting any of the new ship metas without one yourself.

"LendersQuiz;c-2029479" wrote:

Our choice for TBs really should have been...
• LS Hoth vs DS Geo
• DS Hoth vs LS Geo

That would've been great. Not many have gotten 48* in DS Hoth. Not to mention those quests no one can do now...

262m doing geo without argument.

Should be doing Offensive. It’s frustrating, but the rewards are better even at 4-5 stars. Plus, how can they get metrics if people refuse to participate? Only the guilds that “should” be doing it will do it, meaning the data will be skewed towards them, making it harder in the long run.

It’s tempting to pout and throw a fit, it probably even feels good. But it’s not helping anyone. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.

"NicWester;c-2029540" wrote:
Should be doing Offensive. It’s frustrating, but the rewards are better even at 4-5 stars. Plus, how can they get metrics if people refuse to participate? Only the guilds that “should” be doing it will do it, meaning the data will be skewed towards them, making it harder in the long run.

It’s tempting to pout and throw a fit, it probably even feels good. But it’s not helping anyone. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Not participating is a metric. One that probably matters quite a bit. Imagine if literally no one participated in Geo, that would be a pretty big metric of what they put out. Not saying that will happen, and we're not doing Hoth for that reason, it's more the extra GET1 and Shard Shop currency while watching everyone else get frustrated.

Oh and like 300 extra crystals.

"NicWester;c-2029540" wrote:
Plus, how can they get metrics if people refuse to participate?

People refusing to participate IS a metric. The worst part of LSGeo is that it is unfun and demoralizing. It's worthwhile that CG learns that matters to its players.

Our vote is split right now, with Hoth holding a slight edge. We really want get2, but really hate that TB. It comes down to whether you care more about get2 and developing your roster, or having fun (even smashing face on auto is some fun).

If we do stay with Hoth, we'll go back to geo next time and probably stay there. I voted geo, but I'm willing to lose a half month of progress for guild morale. I am not however willing to make that sacrifice every month indefinitely.