Sith situation is out of hand

You do know that any team is imba based on mods not on composition 200+ speed qgj will beat 180 speed sith 220 will beat 200 and so on.... like baze chirut zeta baris doesen't bother u? or GK only sith? hmmmmm....?

@MasterYayaSolo

Scrolling through the meta report top—100 toons I saw the that at least the top 50 appearences were all viable and strong in the arena. Yes, some toons require the right team around them to shine, but nevertheless they have a spot to fil. Imagine FOST in a non—FO squad? Naaah! But FOST in a FO team? He rocks! And a full FO team still rocks.

Yet my guess is that you, @MasterYayaSolo, still think that FOST is bad even if he's actually good. Furthermore some toons are rare in the top 100 not because they are bad in the arena, but because people simply chose to invest their ressources elsewhere. And as others have previously stated: The game is not all about the squad arena. Many toons that don't shine in the arena will shine elsewhere (Fleet arena, pit raid or AAT). Long story short: The game is plentyli diverse.

Can i haz your stuffs?

"Lebronaims;995085" wrote:
Anyone arguing thag sith arent overpowered right now does not have the capabilty to be objective. Its pretty clear how dominant they are and if you dont want balance its probably because you are a sloppy nerd who never got picked for any sports when you were a child and now,its payback time.

On my soft-launch arena shard virtually all of the top ten are now Rex lead (plus one QGJ and two Maul). All of the whaliest whales shifted from Maul to Rex in the last week, and this is a very mature shard. My sith team still competes well, though - I can beat all the Rex squads and they can beat me, if we have comparable mods.

I don't see how anyone could conclude that sith teams are overpowered or META at the moment. I don't know that there even is a clear META. We need to wait and see what emerges and whether any sort of squad becomes dominant and stays there over time. Right now I'd say that several kinds of team are equally competitive at the top. We certainly did have mostly Maul squads for a couple of weeks or more, but they are out of fashion now.

I believe if you see mainly sith squads in arena it is merely everyone copying one another, rather than this actually being the most powerful squad type.

Let's stop with opinion and let's talk about facts.

Assuming players who wants to improve are smart and try to maximize their arena ranking (because that is what we are talking about), let's analyze this:

https://swgoh.gg/meta-report/

Based on 1744 accounts, 50% of leaders of players who ranks 1st at arena payout use Zaul, then 25% Rex, then 5.5% Zader, 2% Wedge and ZGJ (then others).

Obiously we can argue about sampling methods and all, but I suppose this is a fair representation of high level and mature arena leaderboard.

So just from pure facts (and no fake news), Zaul overpowers the other leads. And as for those saying there is diversity: No. there is one team (Siths) that is clearly superior to all the others, one team (Rex) that is tailored to counter the OP team, and a few teams (ZGJ, Zader) that can beat the latter team. If you prefer to put this in perspective: for every ZGJ/Zader team, there is 4 Rex teams and 20 Zaul teams.

First of all Sith are not unbeateable, why do you think are so many Rex lead squads in top-tier arena? Even I with my Semi-Sith-Squad can beat many of them.
Secondly imho variety in arena has never been so big like now, for a long time you had only seen Evasion/Rey/RG after that only Wiggs/Lando squads, now there are much more different teams.
Also Sith were so underrepresented for a long time in this game and many players including me love to see they finally got the power they deserverd while still being beatable with the right strategy.

Dropped the ball on thread title, The Sithuation is out of hand. Sorry couldn't help myself. I'll get my coat.

"LastJedi;995101" wrote:

"Ikenstein86;995100" wrote:
The Zaul meta never even really hit my shard. I currently run the only zaul team in the top 10. It preemptively went to Rex lead teams dominating.

Rex... grrr. I was sick of rex 6 months ago. He won't go away.

he will probably never go away as long as he has the only leader skill that actually counters speed - which is what the meta of this game is going to tend toward since taking turns / damage is so key.

There need to be more defensive style Rex leaders introduced in the game that counter speed. I agree with @scuba above, it's the TM push and SA that made zDM so strong - the stealth / dodge is icing on the cake. I thought some time ago there should be a leader skill that applies negative effects to the attacking enemy if allies are damaged before taking a turn. For example, if allies are attacked 1 time before attacking, 50% chance to inflict unavoidable ability block on all enemies for 2 turns. If attacked a second time before attacking, 50% chance to inflict offense down on all enemies for 2 turns. If attacked a third time before attacking, 50% chance to daze / shock / stun (could pick any of them) all enemies for 2 turns.

I think you could also implement a power gaining / offense up tactic where, similar to Kylo Ren, you gain defense / offense up till your next turn. This could lead to some very deadly tuant / aoe bomb tactics where you can sit back, eat damage, and be able to unleash some nukes as counter attacks. We need more leaders and skills that counter speed and aggressive attacking.

"JohnnySteelAlpha;995510" wrote:
I think you could also implement a power gaining / offense up tactic where, similar to Kylo Ren, you gain defense / offense up till your next turn. This could lead to some very deadly tuant / aoe bomb tactics where you can sit back, eat damage, and be able to unleash some nukes as counter attacks. We need more leaders and skills that counter speed and aggressive attacking.

You describe Chewbacca lead! :lol:

"RJ__Brando;995080" wrote:

"DEATHCOYOTE;995055" wrote:

"MasterYayaSolo;102494" wrote:
Characters who don't even exist in Star Wars (3000 years before any movie time period does not count) are taking over the arena. Sith are unstoppable and everywhere and annoying. What happened to variety? I've been playing this game since two weeks after it's inception and this is the first time I'm seriously fed up with game tweaks. I don't like the Sith, I don't like playing the Sith and I refuse to follow everybody down the dark path. EA better fix this Sith problem fast or I'm out!

Instead of crying you could simply point out a legitimate fact such as palpatine mass stun is **** to the point of complete and utter breaking of meta.

R1 team is a great counter. 3/5 off the start cannot be stunted (with jyn unique zeta)

Dude I should not have to literally invest everything I have into building a set of characters just to attempt to counter one character. That's letting a broken meta... break you. And if it were so easy, why are all the top teams in my shard 70% palpatine users?