Stop the TW mismatches
Come on CG, please review the TW Matchmaking!!!
Surely it can't be that difficult! You're taking the fun out of TW
Surely it can't be that difficult! You're taking the fun out of TW
Forum Discussion
"DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:
"Starl0rd;c-2121502" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2121480" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2120874" wrote:
"MrPosz;c-2120855" wrote:
Kyno Do you know if CG is workin at improvment of TW's matchmaking and to prevent 300KK GP guilds from INTENTIONAL droping members for the event to get better matchmaking for them?
As it not fun to play vs guild that has almost 1kk GP more at every guild member then my guild.
thank you in advance for the answer
They are not. Their last official response on the subject was they didn’t believe sandbagging was possible.
blah blah blah
...that answer stems from no statistical outliers in performance, when they have looked at the data in more detail.
I have a difficult time agreeing or accepting that there are no differences in performance. As I said above, a 6m gp players' roster is easily capable of dealing with two 3m gp rosters, etc. Seems they need to dig a bit deeper.
If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.
Good luck with that.
Yeah, it will be especially difficult when you continually ignore the matchup screenshots that people show you at your request."DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:
"Starl0rd;c-2121502" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2121480" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2120874" wrote:
"MrPosz;c-2120855" wrote:
Kyno Do you know if CG is workin at improvment of TW's matchmaking and to prevent 300KK GP guilds from INTENTIONAL droping members for the event to get better matchmaking for them?
As it not fun to play vs guild that has almost 1kk GP more at every guild member then my guild.
thank you in advance for the answer
They are not. Their last official response on the subject was they didn’t believe sandbagging was possible.
blah blah blah
...that answer stems from no statistical outliers in performance, when they have looked at the data in more detail.
I have a difficult time agreeing or accepting that there are no differences in performance. As I said above, a 6m gp players' roster is easily capable of dealing with two 3m gp rosters, etc. Seems they need to dig a bit deeper.
If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.
Good luck with that.
You've been given examples. And I'm a 6m+ GP player, I don't personally have issues as other lower tier players sometimes do. I'm perfectly in the know regarding why guilds drop players for TW...
I used 6m GP vs two 3m GP to make the point of the active GP argument. While I agree, and didn't intend, that this isn't the normal matchup...what is normal is seeing 38-40 vs 50, of the same "active" guild GP."DarjeloSalas;c-2121538" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2121527" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:
"Starl0rd;c-2121502" wrote:
"Kyno;c-2121480" wrote:
"StarSon;c-2120874" wrote:
"MrPosz;c-2120855" wrote:
Kyno Do you know if CG is workin at improvment of TW's matchmaking and to prevent 300KK GP guilds from INTENTIONAL droping members for the event to get better matchmaking for them?
As it not fun to play vs guild that has almost 1kk GP more at every guild member then my guild.
thank you in advance for the answer
They are not. Their last official response on the subject was they didn’t believe sandbagging was possible.
blah blah blah
...that answer stems from no statistical outliers in performance, when they have looked at the data in more detail.
I have a difficult time agreeing or accepting that there are no differences in performance. As I said above, a 6m gp players' roster is easily capable of dealing with two 3m gp rosters, etc. Seems they need to dig a bit deeper.
If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.
Good luck with that.
Yeah, it will be especially difficult when you continually ignore the matchup screenshots that people show you at your request.
I’m not ignoring them. I look at them all, and none of them show x 6M GP players taking on 2x 3M GP players.
You're right, but I'm pretty sure it was just a generic example to illustrate that GP is meaningless. A 6M GP player will probably be able to take out all the teams the 2 3M GP players can field if they also need to save teams for offense.
The screenshots are misleading, because they always report on full guild vs full guild, which is absolutely never representative of the actual match.
They are only mildly misleading. Sure, it's the entire guild, but because it's still usually most of the guild, it's close enough, and you always know ahead of time if either guild has a shot.
For example: this TW, we went in with 44 (out of 49). We have 27M more GP than our opponents did, even down a player. We had double the number of g13, far outclassed them in mods, and have 29 GL's to their 2. There was zero chance they were going to win. This is exactly why CG needs to fix TW matchmaking.
I think the easiest fix is what you said: use active GP and player count. This should greatly decrease the number of egregious mismatches."Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer
End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.
Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?
It's setup phase?
In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.
Ummmm...?
Your own claim/words:"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.
No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?
The same as DarjeloSalas:
Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?"Waqui;c-2121612" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120272" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120262" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120220" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2120194" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2120186" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2119957" wrote:
"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119948" wrote:
"DarjeloSalas;c-2119604" wrote:
Any data to explain your point @Natetiffer
End of this TW I probably will if I remember to take screenshots.
Why not take your screenshots now or show your proof now?
It's setup phase?
In which case you've already been matched. No need to wait to document that your opponents "have nothing" compared to your g13s.
Ummmm...?
Your own claim/words:"Ggdjqjchsabjdj;c-2119221" wrote:
Haha yeah. I’m in a bad guild with my friends. I got g13s and stuff and our opponents have nothing so it’s easy wins.
No I mean what’s your point? My point is that the matchmaking doesn’t take into account characters and stuff. What’s yours?
The same as DarjeloSalas:
Let's see your data that supports your claim. Why wait?
Actually I misread the original post. Thought it was directed at me, it wasn’t. So I’ll be on my way.- We routinely get stacked against guilds with 5 or 6 GL’s to our 1 - qualitatively we have no chance before it even starts - they should add a surrender button to let us just take our loot and go if they aren’t going to make it equitable and fun
- If my guild sat me out of TW to get 1 extra Zeta Mat I’d be finding a new guild. Sandbagging is weird, if intentional.
- I agree! They clearly match according to total guild gp. They should definitely try something else. Like having x members with certain amounts of gp... yadda yadda... with ya man.
"DarjeloSalas;c-2122343" wrote:
"W00kiemonster;c-2122122" wrote:
We routinely get stacked against guilds with 5 or 6 GL’s to our 1 - qualitatively we have no chance before it even starts - they should add a surrender button to let us just take our loot and go if they aren’t going to make it equitable and fun
But some guilds are always going to face an imbalance on these things.
I mean, a 226M guild with only 16 GAS is going to be up against it no matter who they draw.
You have demonstrated why the culture of this game is horrendous. You're basically normalising bad code. Why should we accept that there's an imbalance? This isn't a game with 10 guilds. This is a game with thousands.
Why has it become ok to eat **** and just say, "oh thats life"."DarjeloSalas;c-2121519" wrote:
If you can find an example of what you describe actually happening, then you’re onto something.
Good luck with that.
