Tenacity down and potency in the heroic pit raid

You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.

1) yes, potency doesn't matter if the enemy has tenacity down
2) don't know exactly, thought it was around 60/70% or so.

"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:
You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.

i believe the tenacity down debuff doesn't go through the potency/tenacity check (since you can land it when tenacity up is active)

1) yes and yes, although you may want some potency if rng goes bad and tenacity down expires and dengar/tfp don't crit (unless you go with jyn/phasma to give them advance) or miss their hit
2) around 60% for p1 and like 80% for p2/3/4 is what people says

"leef;c-1196457" wrote:

"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:
You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time. Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.

i believe the tenacity down debuff doesn't go through the potency/tenacity check (since you can land it when tenacity up is active)

Fair point. never though about it like that.

Many thanks for the replies! I've been rather silly then, as my characters have been modded with needless amounts of potency. I've soloed the raid manually a couple of times, but if I replace all those potency mods with mods where speed is the main focus, I'm hoping that they may be able to solo the raid on auto.

"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:
You still need potency unless you plan on having tenacity down on thw rancor 100% of the time.

I plan to have it on tenacity down 100% of the time. I have a very good TM removing team (zVader, TFP, Jyn, Magma, Tarkin), so my TFP typically gets to shoot many times before the rancor takes a turn, if it even gets to take a turn.

"ExarTheKun;c-1196452" wrote:
Not to mention whoever is applying tenacity down need potency.

Good point. But I recall reading at some point that with TFP, as long as he crits, there's no chance that the tenacity down will be resisted. If I remember correctly, I think the developers said that this was unintended, and that they would fix it at some point. Not sure if they have fixed it yet... But I'll be sure to give TFP tons of potency once it's fixed.

"Fahrius;c-1196458" wrote:
2) around 60% for p1 and like 80% for p2/3/4 is what people says

Ahh, ok. Was pondering whether I should replace TFP with someone like Rex, but if I need 80% potency on both Rex, Vader and Magmatrooper, it may not be worth it.

Thanks again for all the informative replies. :)

"plindboe;c-1196506" wrote:
Ahh, ok. Was pondering whether I should replace TFP with someone like Rex, but if I need 80% potency on both Rex, Vader and Magmatrooper, it may not be worth it.

Thanks again for all the informative replies. :)

I wish I had came to that conclusion before I pursued Teebo over TFP. Worst decision I ever made but it only took me 1 Heroic Pit raid before I fixed said problem.

Seems like every time I turn around there's an underrated toon that suddenly fits perfectly into a raid team smh. Needless to say TFP is a must have.

80% is generally agreed upon as the minimum requirement without tenacity down. All my characters have at least that except TFP, who is modded primarily for speed.

Yeah tenacity down is weird like that doesn't need potency just atheist with dengar and I assume top, I'd about krennik tho

Tenacity Down is unresistable. It's meant to counter Tenacity Up, and if you need Potency to land it then it's all donkey backwards.
This is WAI and nothing to fix. Just give TFP Speed and Critical Chance.