If you are not aware, these buffs do not match. Potency Up provides a flat 50% potency boost that is additive with your character sheet potency. Tenacity Up is nearly a million, effectively preventing all debuffs. Tenacity Up should also be 50%. -Still an effective buff without directly nerfing any single toon. -Opens up new teams based on debuffs. -Would make Tenacity mods worthwhile. Right now there is no need for Tenacity if you have a toon with the buff. Lots of cool toons have been added with stagger, daze, deathmark, etc. Give us an opportunity to use them!

"Kyno;c-1100499" wrote:"scuba;c-1100493" wrote:"REM;c-1100458" wrote:Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.The game would be a lot better.Tenacity Down, the real opposite of tenacity up, can be applied thru tenacity down and render it nothing. Need a character that has AoE tenacity down. maybe an AOE Opposite effect....baze on crack.It'd basically be a reverse "Negotiator". The ability already exists in the game we just need the dark side version of it.

At the very least, there should still be a 15% chance to apply a debuff even with tenacity up, just as there is a 15% chance to resist even with tenacity down. Tenacity up is broken and it's turning arena battles into not very fun slogs, especially when Zarriss is around. And I'm not salty because I lose, the matches aren't hard and are very predictable, they're just dull.

"slickdealer;d-113523" wrote:If you are not aware, these buffs do not match. Potency Up provides a flat 50% potency boost that is additive with your character sheet potency. Tenacity Up is nearly a million, effectively preventing all debuffs. Tenacity Up should also be 50%. -Still an effective buff without directly nerfing any single toon. -Opens up new teams based on debuffs. -Would make Tenacity mods worthwhile. Right now there is no need for Tenacity if you have a toon with the buff. Lots of cool toons have been added with stagger, daze, deathmark, etc. Give us an opportunity to use them! ^ thisDespite people crying about nerfsAdjusting tenacity up in such a way opens the door for a lot of other squads and characters to compete in arena

Totally agree, the buff shouldnt provide IMMUNITY to everything, just a greater chance of resist. The game will be much better.

Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.The game would be a lot better.

Tenacity up should mirror Potency up

BrtStlnd
8 years ago
"Kyno;c-1100499" wrote:
"scuba;c-1100493" wrote:
"REM;c-1100458" wrote:
Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.
I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.

The game would be a lot better.

Tenacity Down, the real opposite of tenacity up, can be applied thru tenacity down and render it nothing.
Need a character that has AoE tenacity down.

maybe an AOE Opposite effect....baze on crack.

It'd basically be a reverse "Negotiator". The ability already exists in the game we just need the dark side version of it.
Nah-Willis
8 years ago
At the very least, there should still be a 15% chance to apply a debuff even with tenacity up, just as there is a 15% chance to resist even with tenacity down.

Tenacity up is broken and it's turning arena battles into not very fun slogs, especially when Zarriss is around. And I'm not salty because I lose, the matches aren't hard and are very predictable, they're just dull.
razor053
8 years ago
"slickdealer;d-113523" wrote:
If you are not aware, these buffs do not match. Potency Up provides a flat 50% potency boost that is additive with your character sheet potency.

Tenacity Up is nearly a million, effectively preventing all debuffs.

Tenacity Up should also be 50%.

-Still an effective buff without directly nerfing any single toon.
-Opens up new teams based on debuffs.
-Would make Tenacity mods worthwhile. Right now there is no need for Tenacity if you have a toon with the buff.

Lots of cool toons have been added with stagger, daze, deathmark, etc. Give us an opportunity to use them!

^ this
Despite people crying about nerfs
Adjusting tenacity up in such a way opens the door for a lot of other squads and characters to compete in arena
ag_jr91
8 years ago
Totally agree, the buff shouldnt provide IMMUNITY to everything, just a greater chance of resist. The game will be much better.
Lantern49
8 years ago
Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.
I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.

The game would be a lot better.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"REM;c-1100458" wrote:
Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.
I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.

The game would be a lot better.

Tenacity Down, the real opposite of tenacity up, can be applied thru tenacity down and render it nothing.
Need a character that has AoE tenacity down.
NyKynoe
8 years ago
"scuba;c-1100493" wrote:
"REM;c-1100458" wrote:
Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.
I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.

The game would be a lot better.

Tenacity Down, the real opposite of tenacity up, can be applied thru tenacity down and render it nothing.
Need a character that has AoE tenacity down.

maybe an AOE Opposite effect....baze on crack.
scuba75
Seasoned Rookie
8 years ago
"Kyno;c-1100499" wrote:
"scuba;c-1100493" wrote:
"REM;c-1100458" wrote:
Yeah, right now Tenacity Up is really debuff immunity.
I hope the devs will eventually consider making it at least possible to get some debuffs in, even if the odds are low.

The game would be a lot better.

Tenacity Down, the real opposite of tenacity up, can be applied thru tenacity down and render it nothing.
Need a character that has AoE tenacity down.

maybe an AOE Opposite effect....baze on crack.

That would be crazy!
UltimateSeaDog
8 years ago
-1000000000000

Tenacity Up is the opposite of Tenacity Down which also changes stats by an equal amount.

Also, you are asking to change something existing for a year? Really?
mikebpiz
8 years ago
"UltimateSeaDog;c-1100514" wrote:
-1000000000000

Tenacity Up is the opposite of Tenacity Down which also changes stats by an equal amount.

Also, you are asking to change something existing for a year? Really?

Improving the game should take precedence.