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Thanks a bunch for the mod nerf self-entitled whingers

Thanks a bunch to all the self-entitled whingers who got the mods nerfed into the ground with all your "the sky is falling" hyperbole. I was having the most fun I've had in the game for ages - the gam...

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I was just starting to be able to tune up the characters that I want to use (Boba, FOTP etc) and now it's back to the same old meta squads again and gear grinding.","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2016-07-15T21:52:45.000-07:00","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"tags":{"__typename":"TagConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"TagEdge","cursor":"MjUuMnwyLjF8b3wxMHxfTlZffDE","node":{"__typename":"Tag","id":"tag:feedback","text":"feedback","time":"2023-02-05T06:25:45.000-08:00","lastActivityTime":null,"messagesCount":null,"followersCount":null}}]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:4680864_1"},"latestVersion":null,"metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":4784},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","canonicalUrl":null,"seoTitle":null,"seoDescription":null,"isEscalated":null,"placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"archivalData":null,"customFields":[],"body":"Thanks a bunch to all the self-entitled whingers who got the mods nerfed into the ground with all your \"the sky is falling\" hyperbole. I was having the most fun I've had in the game for ages - the game was getting stale. I was just starting to be able to tune up the characters that I want to use (Boba, FOTP etc) and now it's back to the same old meta squads again and gear grinding."},"Conversation:conversation:4680864":{"__typename":"Conversation","id":"conversation:4680864","solved":false,"topic":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4680864"},"lastPostingActivityTime":"2016-07-16T17:34:22.000-07:00","lastPostTime":"2016-07-16T17:34:22.000-07:00","unreadReplyCount":96,"isSubscribed":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:4680864":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:4680864","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"Revision:revision:4680864_1":{"__typename":"Revision","id":"revision:4680864_1","lastEditTime":"2016-07-15T21:52:45.000-07:00"},"ForumReplyMessage:message:4680949":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","id":"message:4680949","conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:4680864"},"author":{"__ref":"User:user:153090"},"revisionNum":1,"uid":4680949,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:swgoh-general-discussion-en"},"subject":"Re: Thanks a bunch for the mod nerf self-entitled whingers","readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:4680949"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:4680864"},"body":"
\"jackTHErandom;563107\" wrote:
\"ECovenantII;563008\" wrote:
\"jackTHErandom;561928\" wrote:


Besides did you even read what i wrote? Gear was NOT obsolete, lvls were NOT obsolete, Stars were NOT obsolete... Whats a 50% increase on a value of 100? And whats a 50% increase on a value of 5000? 100 being base damage of a lvl50 ungeared tokn, 5k being basedamage of a geared, starred and lvld toon


I disagree (almost) entirely with this. After the uber-mods came out, I finally happened to be able to upgrade QGJ to GXI, but it was meaningless. I didn't even post a \"Hey guys, I'm psyched about this\" to my guildies as I normally would, because the upgrade was NOTHING compared to the mods he had. The increase in base stats from leveling up was trivial compared to the bonuses from the mods. And even getting an extra 1600 HPs from the base-stat improvements was then rendered meaningless by the exponential damage increases from toons like Rey.

When raid gear became available in the Shipments for purchase with crystals, many folks spent a whole lot of crystals (either through arena earnings or paid for with cash) to get those pieces. The first implementation of mods nullified the value of all such purchases and invalidated the historical focus on acquiring gear to advance. You can't get people to invest that much time/money in getting gear, and then say \"Actually, that stuff doesn't matter at all. What you really need are mods!\"

If your stockbroker tells you that you need to focus your portfolio on gold-gold-gold for security and strength over time, and you buy up all the gold that you can (with his usual commission), how would you react when he next tells you that you need to focus your portfolio on platinum-platinum-platinum because gold is actually worthless? Would you happily just go along and buy platinum without a care for the money you lost on gold based on his advice? Or would you think that your stockbroker just screwed you over and ripped you off and that he probably needs to be facing someone in a long black robe to determine if he'll be in a 8 x 8 cell for a nice long vacation? If it's the latter, welcome to the club of those who were enraged at the implementation of mods. If it's the former, please give me a call, because I REALLY want to be your broker.


Problem is people start whining without giving new stuff a chance...
Comparing qgj g10 w 5 gearslots filled to qgj g11 obviously doesnt do much, never did and never will... That is 1 piece if gear... compare a modded g8 qgj with a modded g11 qgj


The problem is that, with mods, you CAN make a comparison between modded GVIII and modded GXI, and it will not be as much of a gulf as you'd think. Before, it would be silly to even look at it.

I think most people are fine giving stuff a chance. People are NOT fine when a change makes every bit of the foundation of the game irrelevant up to that point in time when a change is made. Especially when you're plunking down your real-world cash on it, whether it's $50 over 6 months or $11,000. If the game was completely free (subsidized by ads, for instance), then people could be upset at a major change, but they don't have real-world skin in the game in the same way. The gripes would be there, and people would quit. However, it's when you have a system of paying for progress in place that these types of changes aren't going to met with gripes but with torches and pitchforks.","body@stringLength":"3593","rawBody":"
\"jackTHErandom;563107\" wrote:
\"ECovenantII;563008\" wrote:
\"jackTHErandom;561928\" wrote:


Besides did you even read what i wrote? Gear was NOT obsolete, lvls were NOT obsolete, Stars were NOT obsolete... Whats a 50% increase on a value of 100? And whats a 50% increase on a value of 5000? 100 being base damage of a lvl50 ungeared tokn, 5k being basedamage of a geared, starred and lvld toon


I disagree (almost) entirely with this. After the uber-mods came out, I finally happened to be able to upgrade QGJ to GXI, but it was meaningless. I didn't even post a \"Hey guys, I'm psyched about this\" to my guildies as I normally would, because the upgrade was NOTHING compared to the mods he had. The increase in base stats from leveling up was trivial compared to the bonuses from the mods. And even getting an extra 1600 HPs from the base-stat improvements was then rendered meaningless by the exponential damage increases from toons like Rey.

When raid gear became available in the Shipments for purchase with crystals, many folks spent a whole lot of crystals (either through arena earnings or paid for with cash) to get those pieces. The first implementation of mods nullified the value of all such purchases and invalidated the historical focus on acquiring gear to advance. You can't get people to invest that much time/money in getting gear, and then say \"Actually, that stuff doesn't matter at all. What you really need are mods!\"

If your stockbroker tells you that you need to focus your portfolio on gold-gold-gold for security and strength over time, and you buy up all the gold that you can (with his usual commission), how would you react when he next tells you that you need to focus your portfolio on platinum-platinum-platinum because gold is actually worthless? Would you happily just go along and buy platinum without a care for the money you lost on gold based on his advice? Or would you think that your stockbroker just screwed you over and ripped you off and that he probably needs to be facing someone in a long black robe to determine if he'll be in a 8 x 8 cell for a nice long vacation? If it's the latter, welcome to the club of those who were enraged at the implementation of mods. If it's the former, please give me a call, because I REALLY want to be your broker.


Problem is people start whining without giving new stuff a chance...
Comparing qgj g10 w 5 gearslots filled to qgj g11 obviously doesnt do much, never did and never will... That is 1 piece if gear... compare a modded g8 qgj with a modded g11 qgj


The problem is that, with mods, you CAN make a comparison between modded GVIII and modded GXI, and it will not be as much of a gulf as you'd think. Before, it would be silly to even look at it.

I think most people are fine giving stuff a chance. People are NOT fine when a change makes every bit of the foundation of the game irrelevant up to that point in time when a change is made. Especially when you're plunking down your real-world cash on it, whether it's $50 over 6 months or $11,000. If the game was completely free (subsidized by ads, for instance), then people could be upset at a major change, but they don't have real-world skin in the game in the same way. The gripes would be there, and people would quit. However, it's when you have a system of paying for progress in place that these types of changes aren't going to met with gripes but with torches and pitchforks. 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