Forum Discussion

Legend91x's avatar
2 years ago

The Leviathan Release Summary

The Leviathan Release Summary



1) Requirements


Profundity had pretty similar requirements compared to Executor and didn't even ask for a conquest unit like Exe did (RC). The requirements jump of Leviathan however is pretty steep. While Exe and Prof asked for total relics of 42 (6.14 avg relic level) for Exe and 44 (6.29 avg relic level) for Prof, Leviathan goes up to 70 (7 avg relic level) and asking for 2 relic 9's while Prof only needed 1. The Leviathan is also requiring 2 conquest units (Malgus & Fury) aswell as 2 galactic chase units (Dagger & Mk6). Most chars required for Levi are useful with pretty much only R7 Maul and HK feeling wasted.


Rating: Ok - Bad



2) Functionality


On release the fleet had numerous bugs, some of them being absolutely obvious. It is speculation as to why it was released in this state and if it was even tested at all. Regardless, this is just unacceptable and unethical (assuming they knew very well about the bugs) work practice by CG releasing something that's very clearly not WAI. As it stands, Leviathan is the most broken char/ship release to this day, even worse than the Executor release which also needed 2-3 changes to obvious flaws to finally make it a competetive fleet.


Rating: Horrible



3) Lower Star Viability


I don't have first hand experience with non 7 star Levi because I immediately upgraded it to 7 stars but the fact that the enemy hangars can't be sabotaged on lower star Levis and therefor the ult also being shut down is ridiculous. Both Exe and Profun had some very good upgrades on their high tier abilities so there was a meaningful upgrade on 7 stars while still being able to use the abilities on lower stars making them still powerful fleets even when not maxed out. Leviathan is way too crippled on lower stars and gets bullied by old fleets, even Holdo being an option.


Rating: Horrible



4) 7 Star Performance On Offense


Actually a solid performance even with all the bugs being in place but only for 2 reasons - the player can use different starting lineups depending on what fleet he faces (SASS in Levi mirror; Dorito for default starting; ITB on reinforcements vs Profun) and the player does actually use the Mk6's instakill when he calls it as 2nd reinfrcement whereas the AI will do it's best to avoid using it (might actually be a good thing for balance reasons once all the bugs are fixed). Once the bugs are fixed there's a good chance that Levi just rofl stomps everything even on auto.


Rating: Good



5) 7 Star Performance On Defense


Maxed out Levi is actually not that bad on defense even with all the bugs being there. Once they get fixed the Levi could be very scary to face with anything else than a Levi mirror, maybe Profun will still be ok - time will tell. People alrdy shouting "buff Levi!" should be very careful what they wish for.


Rating: Ok
  • "MrRandyWatson;c-2432882" wrote:
    "herd_nerfer;c-2432858" wrote:
    "Ratinira;c-2432854" wrote:
    I wonder, why when talking about "less then 7* shouldn't be working" people are usually refuring to GL's... and not "GL ships"? Because, you know, there are 2 other such ships. Except Leviathan. But for some reason they are very carefully ignored and people are pointing their fingers on everything except them...
    I wonder what is the reason... Hmmmm....


    I'm really trying to steer people away from the subject of low star viability because as I've said so many times before - that's a temporary condition. I don't get why it's even a conversation. "This thing I just got that I haven't upgraded yet isn't destroying everything - CG LIED!" Just because one unit works well at low stars doesn't mean they all will - nor does it mean they all should. A cursory read of the kit would tell you that it's less effective at 4*. Common sense would tell you that it's going to be less effective before it's fully upgraded - I ask again - so what?

    That being said, at 4* it still destroys Executor so I don't see what everyone's so upset about. Who doesn't want another Executor counter? I'm honestly not sure how it stacks up against Prof at 4* but I'd be willing to bet a skilled player could make that work. People are making it out to be useless at 4* and that's objectively false.



    Show me 7* executor getting beaten by a 4* Levi. Make sure it’s a minimum R5 executor pilot lineup with triple attacker getting “destroyed” by 4* Levi.



    No. Go practice and learn how to do it. I know people that ARE doing it so I know it can be done. I replied to one of your messages in another thread and left (what I think is) some good advice.

    "makoamagana;c-2432898" wrote:
    I keep seeing people defending the point that low stars shouldn’t be viable.

    Let me ask you. Why would someone invest in Levi with its step requirements when you can just go for profundity or exec and have a waaay better ship that operates at low stars? What’s the point of going for Levi if this is acceptable?


    Maybe those people shouldn't be investing in the fleet with the steepest requirements in the game if they don't already have the previous two that are apparently so much better? Feels like a no-brainer to me. Skipping straight to Leviathan without having Exec and/or Prof feels a lot like going for LV as your first GL. That just doesn't make sense.
  • "herd_nerfer;c-2432846" wrote:
    Low star viability shouldn't even be a consideration.

    Low star viability is always the exception - never the rule.

    Aside from that - less than 7* on any unit is a temporary condition, and by definition, not ideal.

    remind me, it costs 32k crystals ti unlock Levi day one, right? With all Galactic Chases. Without counting all the requirements. Do any GL required crystal cost to unlock it to 7* AFTER their event? Or maybe ult required crystals?
    With this kind of logic, Leia and all future GLs should be "walled" with crystals/money to make them viable(unlocked at 4*) and require more resorces than any other GLs(and probably may be even worse than criplatine

  • "ConnorMcLurk;c-2433052" wrote:
    Its more like 25k, but still a lot.

    My theory is that Leviathan is the first toon of a new class: The Crapital Ship. In this light it performs absolutely outstanding.


    25k for levi, plus (3,5×2)k for both Galactic chase ships(mk6 and dagger), because you had to spend mor for additionak "attempts" or packs to unlock them for the event.