OK, I don't believe devs gonna ever give us better match-making (taking average GP into account or something like that) so I'd like to ask for only one VERY EASY shift: when one guild has 50/50 members signed up and other has 42/50 (for example) - make number of squads for each territory 25 not 21. Obviously better equipped side will have to spend at least part of their advantage for defense - it's gonna more fair and lower effects of "sand-bagging", imho.

Agree with op. Even better idea would be to use your whole roster on D and then again on offense and have unlimited defenses to set even the weakest character you have. That would be the only real way to see which guild or even individual (ga) has the better roster or is the most efficient with what you have... You could make that 3 days for setting defenses in tw and 4 days to attack. That would be exciting!! And double the rewards you currently have and there you go...

"Gifafi;c-2052349" wrote:lol sandbag. seems super legit that people would often sit out a tw so their guildmates could get one extra zeta Lol it does exist. It’s not a fairytale. Just do the maths, if 4 ppl sitting out means a guaranteed win vs 50/50 giving u a 70% chance of winning, u get an EV of 30 more zetas per round. And ultimately, this boils down to whether there are people with busy lives, and yea usually u can find 4 ppl every week who would rather sit out than do a tw battle in the middle of their busy schedule.

My two guilds were at 32 and 38 respectively and we have 49 and 48 members respectively. NO ONE PURPOSELY SAT OUT! (as in purposely, I mean to initiate any sort of sandbagging) This change willbegin to punish those guilds that are more casual and in it for the fun. No one sits out for better rewards for other players, they sit out when they are busy or don't want to play...

"HJoci30;c-2052820" wrote:"Jack1210;c-2052796" wrote:My two guilds were at 32 and 38 respectively and we have 49 and 48 members respectively. NO ONE PURPOSELY SAT OUT! (as in purposely, I mean to initiate any sort of sandbagging) This change willbegin to punish those guilds that are more casual and in it for the fun. No one sits out for better rewards for other players, they sit out when they are busy or don't want to play...If you do the match, in 7 TW-s (with a win) if you rotate the sitouts, everyone including the sitout players are earning more rewards. That is a fact. Sandbagging (on purpose or not) have to be addressed. Right now we are facing. 48/50 guild with 10 mill more gp. Probably 2 sitouts to match our gp and they are easily winning against us. So 46 vs our 50. Or just win without sitting out? No one can prove anyone is sandbagging on purpose.

"HJoci30;c-2052820" wrote:"Jack1210;c-2052796" wrote:My two guilds were at 32 and 38 respectively and we have 49 and 48 members respectively. NO ONE PURPOSELY SAT OUT! (as in purposely, I mean to initiate any sort of sandbagging) This change willbegin to punish those guilds that are more casual and in it for the fun. No one sits out for better rewards for other players, they sit out when they are busy or don't want to play...If you do the match, in 7 TW-s (with a win) if you rotate the sitouts, everyone including the sitout players are earning more rewards. That is a fact. Sandbagging (on purpose or not) have to be addressed. Right now we are facing. 48/50 guild with 10 mill more gp. Probably 2 sitouts to match our gp and they are easily winning against us. So 46 vs our 50. So 2 people. You are complaining about 2 people not joining.... OK man. Also, why are you guys not tagging 2 members to sit out since thats such an insane matchmaking issue.....? Since it is a guaranteed win and over 7 TW (how many months??) you'll bbe even...

TW match-making and number of squads for each territory

90 Replies

Waquira
6 years ago
Alternatively:
Don't make this change.
SurvivorMmm
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2052225" wrote:
Alternatively:
Don't make this change.

Why? Cuz you got used to sand-bag and win? Don't see any other reason anyone can vote against changes... 50/50 guilds really need something to equalize chances.
TaTaKaS
6 years ago
Agree with op.

Even better idea would be to use your whole roster on D and then again on offense and have unlimited defenses to set even the weakest character you have. That would be the only real way to see which guild or even individual (ga) has the better roster or is the most efficient with what you have...

You could make that 3 days for setting defenses in tw and 4 days to attack. That would be exciting!! And double the rewards you currently have and there you go...
Waquira
6 years ago
"SurvivorM;c-2052288" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2052225" wrote:
Alternatively:
Don't make this change.

Why? Cuz you got used to sand-bag and win? Don't see any other reason anyone can vote against changes...

Common sense
GifafiTho
6 years ago
lol sandbag. seems super legit that people would often sit out a tw so their guildmates could get one extra zeta
SurvivorMmm
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2052343" wrote:
"SurvivorM;c-2052288" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2052225" wrote:
Alternatively:
Don't make this change.

Why? Cuz you got used to sand-bag and win? Don't see any other reason anyone can vote against changes...

Common sense

Wow what a wisdom, now you convinced me (not even close). Common sense tells me if it's called "war" - make it war when the less the number of players joined the harder to win, not vice versa.
SurvivorMmm
6 years ago
"Gifafi;c-2052349" wrote:
lol sandbag. seems super legit that people would often sit out a tw so their guildmates could get one extra zeta

Usually ppl just have RL issues and don't have time for offense, but still it's legit to call it "sand-bagging" as rest of the guild don't have to pull their weight when they don't sign up for TW, imho.

My post is inspired by the fact our guild faces 42-46 opponents with +10-20kk GP overall and +200-500k on average most of the times (we are often 50/50). It seems fair that both sides should set 25x squads as well as kill 25x opponents' ones: they have GP advantage, we also should have some to balance things. Atm match-making system upholds guilds with less TW participation and punishes guilds which have 50/50 (more or less) members signed up. It's against common sense.
Waquira
6 years ago
"SurvivorM;c-2052656" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2052349" wrote:
lol sandbag. seems super legit that people would often sit out a tw so their guildmates could get one extra zeta

Usually ppl just have RL issues and don't have time for offense, but still it's legit to call it "sand-bagging" as rest of the guild don't have to pull their weight when they don't sign up for TW, imho.

My post is inspired by the fact our guild faces 42-46 opponents with +10-20kk GP overall and +200-500k on average most of the times (we are often 50/50).

I don't believe, you do. I believe you face opponents with matching overall GP.
Waquira
6 years ago
"SurvivorM;c-2052652" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2052343" wrote:
"SurvivorM;c-2052288" wrote:
"Waqui;c-2052225" wrote:
Alternatively:
Don't make this change.

Why? Cuz you got used to sand-bag and win? Don't see any other reason anyone can vote against changes...

Common sense

Wow what a wisdom, now you convinced me (not even close). Common sense tells me if it's called "war" - make it war when the less the number of players joined the harder to win, not vice versa.

Common sense tells me not to compare this game mode to wars.
SurvivorMmm
6 years ago
"Waqui;c-2052659" wrote:
"SurvivorM;c-2052656" wrote:
"Gifafi;c-2052349" wrote:
lol sandbag. seems super legit that people would often sit out a tw so their guildmates could get one extra zeta

Usually ppl just have RL issues and don't have time for offense, but still it's legit to call it "sand-bagging" as rest of the guild don't have to pull their weight when they don't sign up for TW, imho.

My post is inspired by the fact our guild faces 42-46 opponents with +10-20kk GP overall and +200-500k on average most of the times (we are often 50/50).

I don't believe, you do. I believe you face opponents with matching overall GP.

Don't see the point to argue with ppl who manipulate facts in their favor. Don't believe your mom when she says you're the smartest one in the world ;)