Update on the Finn/Threepio Raid Interaction: Resulting Finn Modifications [MEGA]

Do yourself a daka and refund the zeta

Creating a separate post for this, because I'd really like a response from @CG_TopHat, and I won't get one in the megathread, because that's a huge pit of rage (some justified, some definitely not).

Like the title says, can Finn still auto P2-4 of the HAAT? I've been in the change P3 Traya camp since Day 1, since I was afraid any change to zFinn's leader would affect his HAAT status, which is what I really care about.

They said they didn't like him possibly solo'ing P3, but they also specifically stated they were cool with him solo'ing the HAAT, which made me extremely happy. Both the HAAT and Sith Raid were long and boring, and only having one long and boring raid has been so nice.

I know you guys tested him extensively in the HAAT, so can you let us know what you found?

Thanks

Why can’t I get a zeta refund?

Finn is awful now.

While you’re at it, go ahead and give me my zeta’s back from the suddenly useless 3PO as well.

I’ll need all of them for the mandatory POS known as Revan - because, you know, his OP nonsensical abilities in arena aren’t a problem or anything.

At least not for CG because they want to reward all the whales that shelled out $600 to get him ?

Edited for language. - EA_Cian

You know they’re not going to let him solo the HAAT.

Guess it’s back to the other teams that can solo the whole HAAT with no problem ?

This is the right move to avoid all future raids being tm looped with the same team. But they have to give a refund zeta option to make it right.

"Darknesswon;c-1777325" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1777311" wrote:

"mvmss;c-1777297" wrote:

"Kyno;c-1777283" wrote:

"mvmss;c-1777279" wrote:
Does the rework beat Revan?

That is all I'm interested in and I couldn't care less about Finn in raids (HAAT, srsly???).

Yes, I do have Revan and I think Revan mirror matches are probably the worst since I started playing this game, long ago.

So, the question is, does the new Finn beat Revan?

no. they are too fast and will resist TMR.

even against FO, it looks questionable due to the speed they have.

Right, though, here's what CG said:

"These changes do not drastically alter the performance of the Finn-led Resistance squad in PvP, but his changes do offer the team some additional utility and a slight improvement in their PvP presence. With ramping damage now present on Finn’s basic ability and his 2nd special ability, the longer he can stay alive and the more turns he can take, the more potent he becomes. Determination goes a long way in making this a reality, as it provides not only an additional means of spreading damage around the team by providing Finn with the ability to Taunt, but also grants him Retribution which can give him a few free hits to ramp up damage on his basic ability. While these changes haven’t brought the Resistance squad into the current competitive meta, they can more handily dispose of teams such as Kylo Ren (Unmasked)-led First Order and General Kenobi-led Jedi."

My sole interest in ZFinn is pvp, giving me a somewhat reliable and fast way of beating Revan.

It seems that does drastically change his pvp performance. And it's not just against "one team".

There is more to PvP than arena. There are more teams used in PvP content than Revan.

so changing the interaction with a single (or 2 teams) is not a drastic change to their PvP performance.

I dont see him getting enough hits to make the bonus damage mean anything. I also dont see the TM gain against revan being enough to counter all the speed and TM gain on a revan team.

I could be wrong about FO, but to get it going before you only needed Poe to be faster, now you will probably need more speed in general. so while it may be doable, its likely going to need changes to the whole team to be able to "handily dispose" of teams you could take down before.

IMHO

If Revan wasnt meta , you'd have a valid point , but changing the way a team interacts with the Meta , absolutely affects their pvp usage, im sorry.

This

You guys killed my arena Revan killer so that you could prevent your Sith raid? Instead of fixing Treya's mechanic, you completely destroyed zFinn. Give me back the G12 gear, the zetas, and everything else I invested in the old Finn many, many months ago. You have made a new toon with a completely different and just given him the name Finn.
Pathetic CG. I expected better from you.

It's very simple. Instead if fixing the problem (the raid) they create a bigger problem (breaking Finn) that also happens to fix the original problem. Why? Obviously because Finn broke the Revan paywall.

So the _only_ different flavour in arena besides Revan is gone. But if you grow tired of that flavour now, not to worry! The next paywall is just around the corner...

The sad thing is that it's not _just_ about breaking the only viable Revan counter. It's also about alm the resources I've put into other things since I had a reliable Revan counter. If this happened earlier, I would have had Revan. Even a zeta refund does not fix this.

"ObiJuanPollo;c-1777320" wrote:
@bulldog1205 i eagerly await your follow up video!
@CG_TopHat so the 20% p3 of sith raid team is still using 3po but with other resistance?
Im sad to see the change, but it was leading to a lot of weirdness regarding the sith raid, we have 8 c3pos, but decided not to use the cheese just because we knew this change was coming.
Anyway, Finn getting a taunt if Poe goes under 50% health is great and the increased damage is also a good deal.
The part regarding his viability against general kenobi lead is laughable and out of touch.

Oh, if you thought it was weird before just wait...this place is about to implode...

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"KM1;c-1777345" wrote:
You guys killed my arena Revan killer so that you could prevent your Sith raid? Instead of fixing Treya's mechanic, you completely destroyed zFinn. Give me back the G12 gear, the zetas, and everything else I invested in the old Finn many, many months ago. You have made a new toon with a completely different and just given him the name Finn.
Pathetic CG. I expected better from you.

And I want my C3PO zetas back too, please. You have done all this to avoid having to fix your raid and to avoid having a team that could contend in the arena? Is CG actively trying to REDUCE arena diversity??