Seriously CG? What makes you think this is not absolutely game breaking? a datacron with almost 400% defense, WITH an ability that adds another 200% defense? The previous set of defense datacrons was bad enough and now you're making it even worse?"Oh hey, let's make players sit in 10-25 matches a day and spend 5 full minutes each match on our rubbish datacrons to make them SUFFER even more than they already do!"I feel like someone's ego is keeping them obstinate to how badly datacrons are effecting "enjoyment" of this game. But if the ego is pushing to make people quit, well, congratulations because players are.Just because you do one positive or beneficial thing for players doesn't mean you are free to surround that one positive with 5-10 really bad things that will demotivate players.

you can try using offensive focused datacrons to counter it

"Whatelse73;d-266400" wrote:Seriously CG? What makes you think this is not absolutely game breaking? a datacron with almost 400% defense, WITH an ability that adds another 200% defense? The previous set of defense datacrons was bad enough and now you're making it even worse?"Oh hey, let's make players sit in 10-25 matches a day and spend 5 full minutes each match on our rubbish datacrons to make them SUFFER even more than they already do!"I feel like someone's ego is keeping them obstinate to how badly datacrons are effecting "enjoyment" of this game. But if the ego is pushing to make people quit, well, congratulations because players are.Just because you do one positive or beneficial thing for players doesn't mean you are free to surround that one positive with 5-10 really bad things that will demotivate players.I believe 'players are quitting the game' is a tired trope that keeps getting brought out when some don't like a decision that is made by CG. This game's fan-base is very passionate about a wide variety of things; it's clear you are not a fan of Defense %, and that's ok; but an unproven claim that that "someone's ego" is making this game unfun for you does not help your case. Putting literal quotes on a conversation that only happened in your own mind doesn't help either. To that end: this game is (i think) 7+ years old and closing in on (if not already blown past) 2 billion dollars. While I do not necessarily like Defense % either, I'm not going to rant on the forum that people are leaving the game about it, either. I don't think the Defense % is game breaking - I've been playing the game most of today and I've seen no reports that it is not working.CG has made much more profound mistakes than making Defense % too high, yet we are all still here playing.

"el_mago;c-2444817" wrote:"Whatelse73;d-266400" wrote:Seriously CG? What makes you think this is not absolutely game breaking? a datacron with almost 400% defense, WITH an ability that adds another 200% defense? The previous set of defense datacrons was bad enough and now you're making it even worse?"Oh hey, let's make players sit in 10-25 matches a day and spend 5 full minutes each match on our rubbish datacrons to make them SUFFER even more than they already do!"I feel like someone's ego is keeping them obstinate to how badly datacrons are effecting "enjoyment" of this game. But if the ego is pushing to make people quit, well, congratulations because players are.Just because you do one positive or beneficial thing for players doesn't mean you are free to surround that one positive with 5-10 really bad things that will demotivate players.I believe 'players are quitting the game' is a tired trope that keeps getting brought out when some don't like a decision that is made by CG. This game's fan-base is very passionate about a wide variety of things; it's clear you are not a fan of Defense %, and that's ok; but an unproven claim that that "someone's ego" is making this game unfun for you does not help your case. Putting literal quotes on a conversation that only happened in your own mind doesn't help either. To that end: this game is (i think) 7+ years old and closing in on (if not already blown past) 2 billion dollars. While I do not necessarily like Defense % either, I'm not going to rant on the forum that people are leaving the game about it, either. I don't think the Defense % is game breaking - I've been playing the game most of today and I've seen no reports that it is not working.CG has made much more profound mistakes than making Defense % too high, yet we are all still here playing.I didn't say, "hundreds" or "all players" are going to quit. I do know players who "literally" have quit and datacrons were the catalyst. Content creators have also moved on to other games because of the datacron "impact" on the game and its players. You are correct though, they have made a lot bigger mistakes and they keep making them. Though, there hasn't been a consistency / pattern of mistakes, poor implementations, etc., in so short a time frame in "previous" years.

"tylescope;c-2444816" wrote:you can try using offensive focused datacrons to counter itWhen I find a datacron that gives me 574% armor penetration, I'll let you know. lol

Who at CG thinks 574% Defense is a "good idea"?

scuba75
New Rookie
11 months ago
"MasterSeedy;c-2445163" wrote:
Pretty soon everyone will be in K2 anyway. Tatiana is monitoring the slow destruction of K1.

Meanwhile I was going to win a couple GAC rounds last week, but I literally forgot to hit twice out of 3 rounds. Whatever difficulty DCs are creating with high armour values, that's not my main problem in winning battles.

it's fine.

You have my same problem.... Forgetting to attack
tvsfrink
11 months ago
"MasterSeedy;c-2445205" wrote:
Drives me nuts that my autocorrect changes Taliana to Tatiana and most times I don't notice.

I hate things like that two.
tward930
New Spectator
11 months ago
This thread is quality bathroom reading.
nottenst
New Traveler
11 months ago
How can someone get just one statistic on a Datacron without rerolls? I thought you couldn't reroll until it was L9. The odds of just piling up one statistic at random seem astronomical.
tvsfrink
11 months ago
Never said you can't discuss it

I just disagree that it's a problem for the vast majority of us
frieste33
New Spectator
11 months ago
"TVF;c-2445207" wrote:
"MasterSeedy;c-2445205" wrote:
Drives me nuts that my autocorrect changes Taliana to Tatiana and most times I don't notice.

I hate things like that two.

This made me laugh quiet hard.
SnuggeSnuggles
Seasoned Newcomer
12 months ago
CG already told us that there’s no limit to how unbalanced or broken datacons can be since they are temporary it’s not a problem in their eyes. We all know CG QA and testing is lackluster so this is a good thing for us. Just make it “temporary” and no testing is needed. Win-win.
scuba75
New Rookie
12 months ago
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2444848" wrote:
That 5% makes, from 82 to 87, means it takes about 1.5x as much damage to kill. Every single defense point raises your effective HP by the same amount. There is no "wasted" amount in that sense.

Of course, there are sources of damage that ignore defense altogether, but that's another topic.

It is wasted, IMO in that there are probably other abilities that could have been more effective than gradual gain of 5% defense, it is not instantaious. to each their own though. I don't really chase DC.
The 375% defense add is not new, could have been done with older DC sets.
is 80% + damage mitigatation nuts? Yes. Was it possible before? Yes. I CG going to change it? Probably not.
ccmoose
New Novice
12 months ago
"scuba;c-2444879" wrote:
"Ragnarok_COTF;c-2444848" wrote:
That 5% makes, from 82 to 87, means it takes about 1.5x as much damage to kill. Every single defense point raises your effective HP by the same amount. There is no "wasted" amount in that sense.

Of course, there are sources of damage that ignore defense altogether, but that's another topic.

It is wasted, IMO in that there are probably other abilities that could have been more effective than gradual gain of 5% defense...

No argument there. As I mentioned, there are plenty of sources of damage that won't care about the defense. Also, there are plenty of teams that ramp mastery and plenty of toons with mastery that includes Armor Pen.
Whatelse73
Rising Adventurer
11 months ago
"TVF;c-2444918" wrote:
OP, how often are you even seeing DCs with insane stats like this? We're at similar SR (you're a little higher than me) and I've never seen one like this.

DCs have been dialed way back since the early sets and it's fine now. I don't really like DCs either, but it was way worse before.

Repeat after me - it's fine.

From before, like when we had 400% defense datacrons? Or when we had datacrons that applied to GL's? Oh, wait, those are back again. And they'll be back again and again because CG is just recycling old datacron abilities. (That's why all the character specific abilities don't say he/she anymore, all were switched to "they" so characters, factions, etc., can just be switched.)

It's fine you say, but is it though?