Why is Carth Onasi in Ships Hard Nodes?

I wonder if only emo bastila/canderous and HK will be required for D-Revan, perhaps we will get Malak & another DS character before D.Revan.

Carth/Juhani may have been designed to allow for an old republic squad to go with Mission/Zal/T3 - by giving them a viable leader as Bastila/Jollee are designed around the Jedi squads.

I'm unsure at the moment, at this rate I don't think I'll have Carth in six months with only one hard node fleet farm, hell I'm still only most of the way through emo bastila so Juhani is going to have to wait for her too.

My only issue is that Carth is on ship node and only because I believe the difficulty of the farm should represent the quality of the character. Carth is a B tier character at best, more likely a C tier character. He's someone who should be in a store if they didn't completely right them off, or a mid tier Cantina battle. Instead he's in the hardest to farm nodes in the game. Who cares about what you can unlock with him, or what ship he may pilot in the future. His character just isn't very good for where he was placed.

Exactly, Juhani needs to get a fleet node and so does Carth need a standard hard node - or one of them go onto Cantina node.

This single node fleet farm is the hardest farm in the entire game, at least nest you can get from galactic bounties/isn't required for unlocks.

I'm very dissapointed - it's so toxic to put in on one hard node fleet.

"Nauros;c-1782311" wrote:

"Reyalp;c-1782294" wrote:
It's likely, if you've not finished DS Bastilla and Canderous, that you'll need to spend money.

If however, you are starting today on Carth and Juhani, and have finished the other 2, that DS Revan will not cost anywhere near what people paid for LS. Worse case scenario is you need the 50 shard pack for both and a few shipments, provided you start farming at 2/3 refresh a day from today.

People need to get real and stop whining.

Do the math. You need 280 shards for Carth, assuming you completed the marquee. That means at 2 node refreshesand 3 energy refreshes, it would take you 280/8 = 35 days to complete, all the while spending 375 crystals daily, which is already a steep cost. And do you really think CG will wait a month? No, some shipment purchases will be necessary as well, increasing the crystal cost even further. Plus Juhani, who is cheaper but farmed at the same rate, so shipments are needed as well. That's not only impossible without spending money, that's impossible without spending ridiculous amounts of money. The 50 shard packs won't help all that much.

Load of rubbish. I bet there will be many people circa 50 shards short by the time event drops and the 50 shard pack will be useful. I'm saying this isn't a $300 panic buy - it's $50 over 3 weeks if done correctly. But woe is you.

Correct, you are looking at around 20k crystals cost for refreshes/shipments - the big hit is from the fleet nodes costing so much per day.

250 shards / 21 days = 12 a day.
375 energy for 3 refreshes per day.

There's 3 ways this can be done:

A) you have saved crystals and can farm hard, or use your accrued daily crystals to farm (easier if you place top 3 in either arena and/or fleet)

B.) you can buy the crystal pack that gives 2800 for £20. That will cover farming Carth at the rate needed above Per week. 375*7= 2625. You'll buy 3 = £60. That's a daily cost of £2.85. this method also leaves another 500 crystals left over after 3 weeks

C) you whale at the end on packs and spend circa £300

Juhani, despite being on a hard node is a 16 cost and easy to farm solely using accrued energy and taking 3 refreshes. So really you need to be making 500 crystals a day to farm both comfortably.

Obviously this only works if you compromise on all other toons for 3 weeks.

Your gripe seems o be it's paywalled. But it is and it isn't to an extent - it depends on your situation. Because I place 1st in arena, I can spare 375 crystals without needing to purchase

youre all gonna waste your crystals for them and when the real needed toons for Darth Revan are coming you'll all be crying cause you'll have spent all your crystals into Juhani and Carth.
Come on. They are LIGHT SIDE... if there was a villan's journey they would need only DS characters.

Plus adding the fact that legendary events have always been for LS characters, it would be really surprising to see a Darth Side character with a legendary event.

@Kyno seeing as you love moving threads, this is talking about a character, this shouldn't be in general

"Intrapidoo;c-1782237" wrote:
Thats the f2p problem currently. People with 30k+ crystals stacked up who say are f2p are full of crap.

Definitely not full of crap here and I am 100% FTP. I only just missed out on Revan first time round with the really short time we had to farm the characters. I could have got him if I had bought the Mission and T3-M4 packs but staying FTP was far more important me, so I waited and got him second time round. Having learnt from this, I stockpiled the crystals I earned in game, only spending on essential gear upgrades and Badstilla, Canderous, Carth and Juhani shards when they appeared in the store. My crystals stockpile grew to about 48k doing this and having spent a load in the shops for the above, I am currently sitting on 20.8k crystals with Badstilla and Canderous @ 7*, Juhani @ 6* (55/100) and Carth @ 5* (45/85). I am just farming the last 2 now up to the 200 crystal refresh point to finish them up.

So it can be done FTP first time around if you are focussed, choose the right characters to farm and finish high in the arena each day. What also set me back also the first time Revan appeared was my gambling on us needing the scoundrels!

"Aydnie;c-1782444" wrote:
youre all gonna waste your crystals for them and when the real needed toons for Darth Revan are coming you'll all be crying cause you'll have spent all your crystals into Juhani and Carth.
Come on. They are LIGHT SIDE... if there was a villan's journey they would need only DS characters.

Plus adding the fact that legendary events have always been for LS characters, it would be really surprising to see a Darth Side character with a legendary event.

1) I wouldn't call investing in Carth as wasted. In fact he's a strong leader for an OR squad and pretty useful for TW/GA.
2) Juhani and Carth WILL be requirements for Darth Revan
3) The "Ancient Heroes Journey" event already has it's own requirements not following the old standards (legendary = unlock at 5* and requiring factions; Heroes Journey = unlock at 7* requiring factions aswell as an already existing version of the char - ScavRey --> JTR; Farmboy Luke --> CLS), so it might aswell require 3 DS and 2 LS chars, it's really all about the chars being companions of the new char
4) It's not going to be a legendary event
5) With Palp and Thrawn there already have been DS legendaries
6) Dark Side, not Darth Side
7) Don't forget to take off the tinfoil hat from time to time