Wiggs Nerf Callers got their wish

"scuba;692952" wrote:

"benacrow;692931" wrote:

"scuba;692924" wrote:

"Brown89;692900" wrote:
Shore trooper will help with the lando / wiggs and even droid craziness but that's only if he gets his special off. He could well be dead or ability blocked. I don't see this being OP or a real issue.

The kit sounds great and won't know till get to use him, however I am not sure he will live thru
Han shoot first and stun
Wiggs triple attack
Wedge AoE
Lando AoE

Han stunning Shore won't help because he auto taunts anyways at the start of a battle. Just like how stunning RG doesn't prevent his taunt.

Now if they gave Han a stun AND buff immunity to start, then that would be a different story...

Wasn't really referring to the stun itself but, It will help because now shore has to go 2 turns before he can apply crit immunity to his team.

I was however referring to the damage done.
Vs wiggs with Han solo, wiggs triple tap and Han solo shoot first will be directed at Shoretrooper. Following up with wedge AoE and/or Lando AoE I don't think Shoretrooper will live thru it.

Ah gotcha.

But even if Shore doesn't live through it, the rest of his team will and now they're ready to go while you've expended your strongest attacks.

"benacrow;692957" wrote:

"scuba;692952" wrote:

"benacrow;692931" wrote:

"scuba;692924" wrote:

"Brown89;692900" wrote:
Shore trooper will help with the lando / wiggs and even droid craziness but that's only if he gets his special off. He could well be dead or ability blocked. I don't see this being OP or a real issue.

The kit sounds great and won't know till get to use him, however I am not sure he will live thru
Han shoot first and stun
Wiggs triple attack
Wedge AoE
Lando AoE

Han stunning Shore won't help because he auto taunts anyways at the start of a battle. Just like how stunning RG doesn't prevent his taunt.

Now if they gave Han a stun AND buff immunity to start, then that would be a different story...

Wasn't really referring to the stun itself but, It will help because now shore has to go 2 turns before he can apply crit immunity to his team.

I was however referring to the damage done.
Vs wiggs with Han solo, wiggs triple tap and Han solo shoot first will be directed at Shoretrooper. Following up with wedge AoE and/or Lando AoE I don't think Shoretrooper will live thru it.

Ah gotcha.

But even if Shore doesn't live through it, the rest of his team will and now they're ready to go while you've expended your strongest attacks.

Yes and no. All in theory of course...
I have see many Han solo's have an almost immediate turn after his shoot first
Wedge and or lando probably gained 10-50% TM and put an initial hurting on the team with lando ready to deal a bunch more.
So I do think he is a counter to wiggs, but don't think he is a show stopper to stop running wiggs.

"Returnofthen00b13;692587" wrote:
@RealHanSolo as someone else stated if your shard has EP teams right now you have it very, very easy. If you think that is the best setup right now you really don't know enough to be commenting on all this. Stop saying stuff you don't know about.

Just use yoda you muppet, you're welcome.

I'm sorry but given your knowledge of the game based on what you say it's safe to say you have no idea how that team you mentioned will play out, don't pretend you do. I'm sure it isn't the perfect setup in the game and as @Zooey mentioned very counterable. As an aside you don't even know if they will be F2P or P2P, and how long it will take to farm them. You jumped to conclusions with the thread and also what you say is invalid.

By your own admission you are complaining about a team you've never even seen play, which is ok if you have thought it through and understand how they will play out and the options you have against them. But you don't understand how they'll play out and the possible counters so I find it pretty funny that you are complaining already. People like you told me I was crying because I couldn't beat wiggs (not even true), yet you are now complaining not because you couldn't beat them, you are complaining before this team even exists? and even before some important information about them is known. I find that really really funny.

As to majority of people blah blah blah.... As long as that's understood and you accept that then fine. But again you have backhandedly in my opinion said that we were small but 'vocal' and I hope you are not suggesting that has something to do with the fact that we got what we want, rather than that CG made an independent decision about this and actually defied what the forum wanted, and told me very aggressively and much more vocally. As long as that's understood, fine.


@leef come on now. Stop it. CG accounts, I thought that was pretty clear. Are you one of them then?

Name calling to start off, clearly a sign of intelligent comments to follow. My shard went through a Wiggs phase but they all get stunned now by 200+ speed EPs.

"Moicaliss;692265" wrote:
Those two toons are pretty interesting. Yes empire squad will be strong, but not OP. For ppl that doesn't seem to understand...there is no more meta. Droids, wiggs, hanido, EP, rex-fac; they can feed on each other in arena. Empire squad wasn't good enough for arena, now they are, but far from OP. I like what dev are doing.

+1

thought I'd reiterate your point since it got buried in the midst of the banter

"Returnofthen00b13;692587" wrote:
@RealHanSolo as someone else stated if your shard has EP teams right now you have it very, very easy. If you think that is the best setup right now you really don't know enough to be commenting on all this. Stop saying stuff you don't know about.

Just use yoda you muppet, you're welcome.

I'm sorry but given your knowledge of the game based on what you say it's safe to say you have no idea how that team you mentioned will play out, don't pretend you do. I'm sure it isn't the perfect setup in the game and as @Zooey mentioned very counterable. As an aside you don't even know if they will be F2P or P2P, and how long it will take to farm them. You jumped to conclusions with the thread and also what you say is invalid.

By your own admission you are complaining about a team you've never even seen play, which is ok if you have thought it through and understand how they will play out and the options you have against them. But you don't understand how they'll play out and the possible counters so I find it pretty funny that you are complaining already. People like you told me I was crying because I couldn't beat wiggs (not even true), yet you are now complaining not because you couldn't beat them, you are complaining before this team even exists? and even before some important information about them is known. I find that really really funny.

As to majority of people blah blah blah.... As long as that's understood and you accept that then fine. But again you have backhandedly in my opinion said that we were small but 'vocal' and I hope you are not suggesting that has something to do with the fact that we got what we want, rather than that CG made an independent decision about this and actually defied what the forum wanted, and told me very aggressively and much more vocally. As long as that's understood, fine.


@leef come on now. Stop it. CG accounts, I thought that was pretty clear. Are you one of them then?

Also quite hilarious that someone with no better solution to Wiggs than to cry nerf is saying someone else can't play the game, that's quite rich.

"benacrow;692918" wrote:

"RAYRAY;692430" wrote:
Has anyone thought that perhaps the devs know that Wiggs is a little out of hand, they planned it this way only so they could release a suitable counter in shoretrooper that will force people to continue to chase and spend? I would bet that shoretrooper was planned long before the Wiggs Synergy became a problem because they planned it to happen that way. Shoretrooper won't necessarily be behind a paywall but you will have to win to get him.

Lol

He's going to be behind the biggest pay wall the game has ever seen. You can only get his shards by getting 'top rank' (via pvp datamine) and to do that in the new tourney, you'll likely have to pay an obscene amount of crystals on refreshes to stay on top. You can't just pay a bit to get him, you have to pay for better toons, better mods, and more refreshes than 1000s of others trying to do the exact same.

Whole lot of speculation in what you wrote. I will speculate too:) Maybe the top 100 will get shards? Maybe the top 10 will get full 7* characters? Maybe there will be only 500 in each bracket?. Maybe, just maybe they will make it relatively easy to get him because it is increadibly hard to gear him (more refreshes=$$). Maybe he will be like Yoda or Emperor, if you are able to either buy your way or have a big enough roster to get a certain position in the tournament, you get him? We still don't know enough about the tourney to say for sure. You could be right I suppose. I would guess though that named characters from Rogue One will take precedent behind that pay wall than a random no name character (even if he has an interesting kit). They may want to change the Wiggs/Lando meta to really make more characters viable by making this one easily available?

Shoretrooper stops Raid Han and Biggs huge assist call. He is tanky enough to eat both. Couple that with TFP and u stop Lando or Wedge in their tracks. Empire has always suffered from low speed and low potency. EP lead, TFP and Shoretrooper starting w/ taunt up equalize those weaknesses.

Empire will be strong, not OP. It's about time a full faction team besides rebels can hit the field and do well.

"Olle;693018" wrote:

"scuba;692924" wrote:

"Brown89;692900" wrote:
Shore trooper will help with the lando / wiggs and even droid craziness but that's only if he gets his special off. He could well be dead or ability blocked. I don't see this being OP or a real issue.

The kit sounds great and won't know till get to use him, however I am not sure he will live thru
Han shoot first and stun
Wiggs triple attack
Wedge AoE
Lando AoE

If he gets targeted by the first two, he's done his job. The crit immunity would be very nice against Lando though.

lol that's really his only job....the rest is just gravy