8 years ago

Your thoughts on Executrix.

We've had several threads regarding Fleet commanders and their pros and cons. While I think that Executrix is a really good Capital Ship (I use it in Arena), I can't help to notice that it feels very underwhelming lately. I mean, I usually lose matches because of RNG, but my 109k power fleet is holding nicely a spot in the top 200s alongside +120k fleets. However, I've started to falling off more often now. While this is in part my fault (since most of my pilots are weak and I've stopped farming ship shards in order to get Zetas), I've seen all other Executrix Players gone. While I usually attack Ackbar, I actually prefer to engage with another Executrix because it's way easier. Now most of those players are above the top 200s (in my shard). And you want to know what my top 50 looks like?

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If you didn't want to go through the 10 pictures, I'll give you a hint. Not even one Executrix in the top 50.
Many people say that Executrix will become more viable once more Empire ships are out, and while I kind of agree with them, I also feel that Executrix's kit needs some tweaks.
For example:
1. The Reinforcement bonus should give Offense Up instead of Potency Up. The latter is most of the times useless compared to Ackbar and Mace's one. Plus the chance to resist debuffs procs very often.
2. Ultimate Firepower: Deal Physical damage 12 times to random enemy targets. Target Locked enemies are also Stunned for 1 turn.
While this is (in my opinion) the best Capital Ship power in the game, it has a big flaw. It targets empty spaces. The ability doesn't do what the description says and it's serious. Sometimes there are two enemy ships left and you can't even finish off one of them.
EDIT: If one ship dodges the first hit out of "12", it actually avoids the whole Ultimate. That's really underwhelming when you're against a poor little TIE Fighter or Ahsoka wihtout protection... Or in any given case lol
Anyway, I hope the devs try to work on this for the next QoL update and/or before releasing new ships.
What are your thoughts on this Capital Ship? Do you think I'm ranting for no reason or you agree with me?

DarthLark
8 years ago
Agree. As someone with a fully maxed Executrix, I have since gone with ackbars ship. Very weak compared to the other two, needs a heal or protection up to support the ships
conquers93
8 years ago
I hold top 20 in executrix, but I'm also using almost all DS (biggs the only other)
I'm among 7* fleets led with 6* Akbar while I'm 5-7* fleet with 5* executrix

I think fixing his bugs is important. The ultimate ability is underwhelming at times

I used it on a sole Tie Fighter, and it dodged the first attack which for some reason made it dodge all 12

The potency really doesn't make sense atm, way weak. Offense up would be nice

If they buff I would be happy, would probably be only top 10 with it :smiley:

Edit: I'm 140k power, fighting 150-160k
DarthAmarth011
8 years ago
"DarthLark;915424" wrote:
Agree. As someone with a fully maxed Executrix, I have since gone with ackbars ship. Very weak compared to the other two, needs a heal or protection up to support the ships

I don't think they'll add heal and/or protection, since Executrix is intended to be an offensive option, just like Mace is defensive and Ackbar is the middle ground. The thing is Mace's ship turns the old phrase "the best defense is a good offense" backwards lol "the best offense is a good defense". Ackbar is a Jack-of-all trades, and a very good one, since it can dispel, heal, give protection, extra turns and assists. Executrix in the other hand, lacks that strong offense. Most of the times I win is because of my ships rather than Executrix. Mostly TIE Fighter, since it has good damage and speed. But once TIE is gone, it's very unlikely I'll win unless I have a major advantage.
conquers93
8 years ago
"Darth_Amarth;915431" wrote:
"DarthLark;915424" wrote:
Agree. As someone with a fully maxed Executrix, I have since gone with ackbars ship. Very weak compared to the other two, needs a heal or protection up to support the ships

I don't think they'll add heal and/or protection, since Executrix is intended to be an offensive option, just like Mace is defensive and Ackbar is the middle ground. The thing is Mace's ship turns the old phrase "the best defense is a good offense" backwards lol "the best offense is a good defense". Ackbar is a Jack-of-all trades, and a very good one, since it can dispel, heal, give protection, extra turns and assists. Executrix in the other hand, lacks that strong offense. Most of the times I win is because of my ships rather than Executrix. Mostly TIE Fighter, since it has good damage and speed. But once TIE is gone, it's very unlikely I'll win unless I have a major advantage.

Executrix unique is amazing
I hit 70k crits with tie fighter with just 2 debuffs
DarthAmarth011
8 years ago
"Khorvog_Karbossa;915427" wrote:
I hold top 20 in executrix, but I'm also using almost all DS (biggs the only other)
I'm among 7* fleets led with 6* Akbar while I'm 5-7* fleet with 5* executrix

I think fixing his bugs is important. The ultimate ability is underwhelming at times

I used it on a sole Tie Fighter, and it dodged the first attack which for some reason made it dodge all 12

The potency really doesn't make sense atm, way weak. Offense up would be nice

If they buff I would be happy, would probably be only top 10 with it :smiley:

Edit: I'm 140k power, fighting 150-160k

Yeah, you actually made some good points I forgot to mention. I'll edit the OP and add them.
thecoolig88
8 years ago
It's just awful. I run tie advanced and tfp and when I use the tarkin I feel like I am severely handicapping myself. He is just completely outclassed to his counter parts. The other two offer so much more utility. Also he doesn't even synergize well with empire ships compared to the other two. Needs a massive buff or rework to be viable IMO.
DarthAmarth011
8 years ago
"Ig88isboss;915437" wrote:
It's just awful. I run tie advanced and tfp and when I use the tarkin I feel like I am severely handicapping myself. He is just severely outclassed to his counter parts. The other two offer so much more utility. Also he doesn't even synergize well with empire ships compared to the other two. Needs a massive buff or rework to be viable IMO.

Not a full rework, but some minor tweaks, mostly with its Ultimate Firepower. And yes! Vader's ship has more synergy with Ackbar than Tarkin lol
Xio_UK
8 years ago
Tarkin works best when you've maxed most of your DS ships / pilots (primarily due to the speed gains from my experience) and you mix in the likes of Slave1, Maul, Bistan etc, with FOTP, TFP, Vader etc. Like many I started with AA till I built up my fleet and then switched to Tarkin. I find capital ship is a personal preference, most have their strengths and weaknesses. With a full strength fleet, the damage increase you get from Tarkin as you start spreading TLs is outstanding. Smack Maul's retribution on Slave1 for example, game over...

"Ultimate Firepower" never gets used if you mix Tarkin with the right fleet / pilots.
2010vass
8 years ago
I Think Tarkins command ship is fine but prolly could use a tweak here or there cause doing certain things can make it a bit OP. Im fine with Potency up on reinforcements cause you can get target lock instantly on some ships. I do feel that one dodge should make all the shots miss on ships on his ultimate ability. Even though i fight higher power ships and what not i can still hang with them.
Zair_Zetross
8 years ago
"Radonis;915689" wrote:
I do feel that one dodge should make all the shots miss on ships on his ultimate ability. Even though i fight higher power ships and what not i can still hang with them.

What? Why should Tarkin's ultimate be subject to RNG, when Mace and Ackbar have a 100% chance to apply their crazy ultimate's. It isn't even a game changer ultimate like the other two. It can destroy up to 3 ships, provided they're not covered with Protection Up buffs, or barely scratch them.

I don't even use it unless there's three or less enemy ships remaining. As spreading the damage across four ships does nothing to turn the tide. It can actually cost you match if one of the other two specials were off cool down but you decided to roll the dice anyway.