What to do about Royal Guard

I think @Zekex made a very nice summary of my own thoughts on that trio. The triple layers of RNG make it an extremely resilient combo. Dooku is also a balanced character, with at least some offensive power as well. It's hard to find another combo that is as versatile, at least as long as there are so many broken skills.

A decent alternative is turn meter manipulation, but ever since the update I find my Clone team less viable than before. It just can't dish out enough damage to match the tankiness of RG. If Plo Koon had enough potency to reliably dispel Taunt every round, it would be more doable. But for now, I feel that the update reinforced the current meta rather than changing it. My top 10 is even more extremely streamlined around the Trio than it was before, and none of my other teams are able to compete with it anymore.

I'm still working on other team ideas to see if there's a way around the Dooku/Daka/RG combo, but for now it looks kinda bleak.

"Homish;311018" wrote:
The way I see it there's two main strategys.

-Stun/ability block opponents DPS toons while using your DPS toons to try to take out RG with kitchen sink.

-Targetting opponents other toons and then attempting to dispel/otherwise get around RG's taunt.

Not sure what is best, but I think you've got to pick and then go all-in with that.

I'm leaning towards the second. The precrafters Gear IX RG just has too many HPs.

I've been running RG/Daka/QGJ(lead)/GS/Lumi

I try to time a QGJ or GS assist attack as being the one that takes opponents toon under the 50% health. This hasn't done me much good thus far, I haven't taken many toons out like this, tends to fall just short.

Tomorrow I'm going to swap out Lumi and put in Assaj (and giving her the lead)

She has a dispel - so it won't be all on QGJ to get rid of RG's taunt.
She has an AoE - in the above (very common) scenario where I haven't quite killed opponents toon before RG taunts - I can maybe do so with the AoE.

She's very slow, but her as lead will make that tolerable (she gives Nightsisters speed)
This will take away from my QGJ speed, but give speed to Daka.

If it even half works, Assaj will probably get some of my Omega mats next week.

Right so everybody knows this strategy and no dice unless you have supermaxed characters which is nice for the future i suppose. So rg will be op for 3-5 months at least and people that farmed him deserve it but.... It seems like you should be able to stay competitive with your current teams using thought and consideration ( everybody cries inexperience or strategy here) however when the only strategy is spend 300 bucks or wait 5 months then we are not really being strategic are we:). The dispellers are a joke and you will find asajj pretty useless against him for several reasons including the nerfed aoe and the very low chance her dispell will work against rg. Good luck but im guessing 1/3 dispell, then removing her buffs will help you win 1/10 times against him

I'm not what I really consider competitive in this game. I've been happy to sit in the mid to low 50-100 range; sometimes I hit the 20s. But on a lark, after reading all the, well,we'll call it anger over the recent updates I decided it was time to spend some crystals today (50 total) tearing into the ladder on my shard.

I'm currently ranked #6 in my ladder after 10 attacks today. I went through more than a few Dooku/RC teams to get there. Running QGJ, Lumi, Sid, Ani, and Han Slowlo. I could just as easily have taken out Sid but I found that pairing his Aoe with Ani's rips the opposition's shields apart, so he's stayed.

I still have one more attack to go, and we'll see what happens, but RG is only a pain if you let him do what he does. None of the RG teams are bringing healers, except the occasional Daka. And she doesn't heal, she casts her heal as a revive...if you don't ability block her.

I'm not trying to say I'm hot stuff. Far from it; thats why I mention my previous ranks at the start. But its been pretty easy to take these teams down with some focus fire and a mix of AoE.

"Tiggerz;323747" wrote:
I'm not what I really consider competitive in this game. I've been happy to sit in the mid to low 50-100 range; sometimes I hit the 20s. But on a lark, after reading all the, well,we'll call it anger over the recent updates I decided it was time to spend some crystals today (50 total) tearing into the ladder on my shard.

I'm currently ranked #6 in my ladder after 10 attacks today. I went through more than a few Dooku/RC teams to get there. Running QGJ, Lumi, Sid, Ani, and Han Slowlo. I could just as easily have taken out Sid but I found that pairing his Aoe with Ani's rips the opposition's shields apart, so he's stayed.

I still have one more attack to go, and we'll see what happens, but RG is only a pain if you let him do what he does. None of the RG teams are bringing healers, except the occasional Daka. And she doesn't heal, she casts her heal as a revive...if you don't ability block her.

I'm not trying to say I'm hot stuff. Far from it; thats why I mention my previous ranks at the start. But its been pretty easy to take these teams down with some focus fire and a mix of AoE.

Im thinking you are good at playing combined with an excellent multi team roster which means my only strategy is to spend money or wait 6 months. Great kung fu from a 90 pound kid doesnt kill weak kung fu from a 300 pound beast

"Bradford30080;323885" wrote:

"Tiggerz;323747" wrote:
I'm not what I really consider competitive in this game. I've been happy to sit in the mid to low 50-100 range; sometimes I hit the 20s. But on a lark, after reading all the, well,we'll call it anger over the recent updates I decided it was time to spend some crystals today (50 total) tearing into the ladder on my shard.

I'm currently ranked #6 in my ladder after 10 attacks today. I went through more than a few Dooku/RC teams to get there. Running QGJ, Lumi, Sid, Ani, and Han Slowlo. I could just as easily have taken out Sid but I found that pairing his Aoe with Ani's rips the opposition's shields apart, so he's stayed.

I still have one more attack to go, and we'll see what happens, but RG is only a pain if you let him do what he does. None of the RG teams are bringing healers, except the occasional Daka. And she doesn't heal, she casts her heal as a revive...if you don't ability block her.

I'm not trying to say I'm hot stuff. Far from it; thats why I mention my previous ranks at the start. But its been pretty easy to take these teams down with some focus fire and a mix of AoE.

Im thinking you are good at playing combined with an excellent multi team roster which means my only strategy is to spend money or wait 6 months. Great kung fu from a 90 pound kid doesnt kill weak kung fu from a 300 pound beast

TYVM, I consider such an analogy a complement. me? 90 pounds??? :blush:

I beat the level 3 player but he must not have liked that because he knocked me right back down in less than an hour. While I did screen shot that (yes, I felt proud :wink: ) I'm not going to spend more shards again, and I'll go back to piddling in GW. that and the top 3 are 75, 76 and level 77 respectively. How they do that???

I've always thought I had a decent team going mostly Jedi but people are all talking about how Sid now sucks, Ani never worked and I'm apparently wasting my time going after Yoda (which i am going to happily waste my time to get. He'll be replacing Sid if the non-healer meta persists).

I just wanted to say that if I can get up there, Gawds above, anyone can.

"Tiggerz;324029" wrote:

"Bradford30080;323885" wrote:

"Tiggerz;323747" wrote:
I'm not what I really consider competitive in this game. I've been happy to sit in the mid to low 50-100 range; sometimes I hit the 20s. But on a lark, after reading all the, well,we'll call it anger over the recent updates I decided it was time to spend some crystals today (50 total) tearing into the ladder on my shard.

I'm currently ranked #6 in my ladder after 10 attacks today. I went through more than a few Dooku/RC teams to get there. Running QGJ, Lumi, Sid, Ani, and Han Slowlo. I could just as easily have taken out Sid but I found that pairing his Aoe with Ani's rips the opposition's shields apart, so he's stayed.

I still have one more attack to go, and we'll see what happens, but RG is only a pain if you let him do what he does. None of the RG teams are bringing healers, except the occasional Daka. And she doesn't heal, she casts her heal as a revive...if you don't ability block her.

I'm not trying to say I'm hot stuff. Far from it; thats why I mention my previous ranks at the start. But its been pretty easy to take these teams down with some focus fire and a mix of AoE.

Im thinking you are good at playing combined with an excellent multi team roster which means my only strategy is to spend money or wait 6 months. Great kung fu from a 90 pound kid doesnt kill weak kung fu from a 300 pound beast

TYVM, I consider such an analogy a complement. me? 90 pounds??? :blush:

I beat the level 3 player but he must not have liked that because he knocked me right back down in less than an hour. While I did screen shot that (yes, I felt proud :wink: ) I'm not going to spend more shards again, and I'll go back to piddling in GW. that and the top 3 are 75, 76 and level 77 respectively. How they do that???

I've always thought I had a decent team going mostly Jedi but people are all talking about how Sid now sucks, Ani never worked and I'm apparently wasting my time going after Yoda (which i am going to happily waste my time to get. He'll be replacing Sid if the non-healer meta persists).

I just wanted to say that if I can get up there, Gawds above, anyone can.

Yeah. Slowlow (90lbs) rg = beast. Im just saying most peoples idea of strategy is bunk on a maxed rg. Thasts cool, i just laugh when people claim that others are having trouble against rg because they dont use good strategy.

Yeah. Slowlow (90lbs) rg = beast. Im just saying most peoples idea of strategy is bunk on a maxed rg. Thasts cool, i just laugh when people claim that others are having trouble against rg because they dont use good strategy.

I completely agree. I've used RG, and not used him. He's definitely a challenge sometimes, but not game breaking. If you can't beat him. Then change things up and use a different strategy. I switched things up and have had no problems taking him out.

Have no problem beating a G8 RG. But G9 trips me up. He's not OP, it's just that being on the short end of the precrafting debacle has left me at a massive disadvantage. Once the gear becomes available to everyone, a G9 RG will be just an annoyance.

Loving my gear 9 RG. And gear 9 Daka. And gear 9 QGJ, for that matter. Glad I waste my time reading these forums.

"Apoc;324628" wrote:

Yeah. Slowlow (90lbs) rg = beast. Im just saying most peoples idea of strategy is bunk on a maxed rg. Thasts cool, i just laugh when people claim that others are having trouble against rg because they dont use good strategy.

I completely agree. I've used RG, and not used him. He's definitely a challenge sometimes, but not game breaking. If you can't beat him. Then change things up and use a different strategy. I switched things up and have had no problems taking him out.

Ha. I dont have the squad. Im farming han now. I cant even get through 8a hard.