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ccmoose
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago

Cassian and Threepio&Chewie Unique Tenacity Interaction

It's possible that I got absurdly unlucky, but it appears that Threepio & Chewie's (3pac) stat share unique is including the tenacity boost from the Tenacity Up that Cassian's unique applies.  My first move was Piett's AOE dispel to remove Tenacity Up.  After that, I had a Death Trooper with 149% base potency attack Ben with his basic several times (some with upwards of 20 ET stacks).  Every Daze attempt by Death (6 to 8) was resisted as well as several other debuff attempts (e.g. Death Trooper grenade, Piett AOE, Veers AOE).  All told, conservatively, 20 debuffs were all resisted.  I had a massive potency advantage, so either I had once in a lifetime bad luck, there's some tenacity boost or potency reduction I and my guildmates cannot find, or the tenacity boost from 3pac's unique is bugged when Cassian is present.

My team: Veers (lead), Piett, Death Trooper, Range, Shore
Enemy team: Old Ben (lead), GL Leia, R2, 3pac, Cassian


This bug is not datacron dependent, so it is here to stay until addressed.

More details available here in a week or so:
https://swgoh.gg/p/274698338/gac-history/

4 Replies

  • It's working correctly as coded. It's behaving similarly to omicron Ackbar lead, and part of the reason why getting guard on Drogan was a huge math puzzle with his datacron.

    Cassian's Unique states:

    At the start of each encounter, Rebel allies gain Protection Up (20%) for 3 turns, Rebel Attacker allies gain Defense Up for 3 turns, Rebel Support allies gain Potency Up for 3 turns, and Rebel Tank allies gain Tenacity Up for 3 turns. If K-2SO is present, he gains all of these buffs.

    The code present on swgoh.gg states under Groundwork:

    Child effects are applied on: Encounter Start

    Encounter start is when Uniques normally fire off in the order of operations.

    Threepio & Chewie's Unique states:

    If the allied Leader is a non-Galactic Legend Rebel, Threepio & Chewie gain 40% of the Leader's Max Health, Max Protection, Offense, Defense, Potency, and Tenacity at the start of the first encounter, and Rebel allies gain half that amount. Rebel allies have +15% Critical Avoidance.

    The code present on swgoh.gg states under I Must Tell the Others:

    Child effects are applied on: Round Start

    Round Start is the first move of the match (It's also when OG Chewbacca's Guard applies, which is what was causing Drogan Guard math to be so complicated with his datacron).

    So, order of operations for those two uniques would be as follows:

    Cassian's Groundwork triggers granting allied tanks Tenacity up.

    Threepio and Chewie's I must tell the others triggers checking the stats of the leader unit.

    Old Ben Tenacity with tenacity up (we'll just use Tenacity up Value for ease of calculation) is 999,900%

    Threepio and Chewie is sharing effectively ~200,000% Tenacity with the rest of the squad.

    You won't be able to overcome this unless you have unreistable debuffs, or a source of Tenacity down.

    It boils down to the Threepio and Chewie's Unique fires off after all the uniques, and even then, it could still be gamified by putting Cassian before Threepio and Chewie in the squad placement.

  • ccmoose's avatar
    ccmoose
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    Everything works as it is coded. I'm suggesting this is a bug because the result of their code is surely not the intent. Or, if it is, I'd like to here so straight from the horse's mouth.

  • Thank you for the report. We attempted to reproduce your report but we were not able to confirm any issues on our side. Threepio & Chewie's abilities are working as designed.

  • Ciiidr's avatar
    Ciiidr
    Seasoned Traveler
    2 years ago

    Thank you for the response. It is correct to understand then that the team that's currently making the rounds - Old Ben Lead, GL Leia, Cassian, Threepio & Chewie, and R2D2 - is functioning correctly that it is immune to debuffs (without tenacity down) because every team member has a 200,000% tenacity bonus?

    That is, Threepio & Chewie's unique is calculated after buffs, as opposed to just mods/datacrons (as other uniques)?

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