Hello, I heard many times it's not good to have higher frame rate than 60 frame rates at the sims 3 and I actually don't know why it's not good and what happens if I have 120 frame rates while playing the sims 3? I searched on web and saw higher frame rates makes the game smooth well. I appreciate all helpings and replies. Thank you. :)

It's not the TS3 program that is the deciding factor on where to cap frame rates, it's your monitor. If you have a 60 Hz monitor/screen, than any frames per second above 60 fps your monitor cannot interpret and they are the equivalent of digital noise being generated for no useful purpose. If you have a 120 Hz or higher monitor, then the frame rate can be safely capped at such a higher rate.Most flat screen monitors sold in the US are 60 Hz, even the high end Apple ones (or whatever brand they are selling today) for high precision video editing. Game enthusiasts will seek out those with higher refresh rates and the markets in some countries seem to have settled on 75 Hz as the standard for casual use for whatever reason, hence some differences.The issue with TS3 in particular is that like other games of its development era it has no functional built-in fps limiter and the higher end video cards being sold today can run wild on it, generating fps in the many hundreds or thousands. Besides being horrible for game performance and leading to graphics glitches, lag, screen tears, and crashes, this is potentially harmful to the system and can burn its components out if left unfixed.

Depends on your monitor. If the native refresh rate of your monitor is 120, then having the game's FPS capped at 120 is fine. However, if your monitor's refresh rate is 60, there's no benefit at all to capping your frame rate higher than 60. The danger is that if uncapped, the frame rate will run in the hundreds and needlessly tax your graphics card. The advice to limit frame rate to 60 is due to the fact that in the past most LCD monitors had a refresh rate of 60. But that's changing as newer monitors might have a higher refresh rate.

The human eye cannot "see" refresh rates that high, meaning you might not really be missing much. There can be a difficult to define difference in quality between let's say 30 Hz and 60, but not to the extent that it's really obvious. Where 144 Hz and higher monitors come in would be for games like first person shooters where split-second accuracy can be helpful for the player to succeed. But sims games don't work that way, time management in the game is much more relaxed than that. As I like to keep saying, your sim was going to burn those waffles and be late for work anyway.The reason I asked if you had an iMac is that I am pretty sure none of them have monitors above 60 Hz and it's not like we can swap them out even if we wanted to. Even the super fancy iMac Pro beginning at $5,000 (USD) has a 60 Hz monitor (actually made by LG), I don't believe there is any such thing as a 5k monitor that can run at higher refresh rates.

"Indieblue;c-17359618" wrote:There was weird sound coming from my gpu so i checked afterburner and the frame rate was 3000 o.0Hopefully you will not be playing TS3 any longer until you get those fps rates capped. Let us know if you need help with that. High pitched whining noises coming from the GPU are definitely a symptom of an overworked card on its way to burning out.

"Indieblue;c-17359681" wrote:Btw, do you have any idea on the optimized game setting for 1060gtx super, i5 9400f, 16 ram? i havent played it yet(planning to play on the next weekend! :) i finally bought a new computer lol) but i am already too scared to play it especially on high setting lol!If you mean the game's built-in options, on that hardware you should be able to play on all of the highest settings. We do usually recommend that Reflection Quality (Water & Mirrors) be set to a medium setting and High Detail Lots be set no higher than 2 at least to begin with as both settings use up a lot of game resources for relatively little benefit compared to the others. As ongoing games progress they tend to use more and more RAM, so anything we can do to relieve stress on the game while preserving gameplay becomes important due to the game's 32-bit resource limitations.If you mean your Nvidia card's settings, that would take more of a GPU expert to advise on but in the end I expect much of that will come down to trial, error, and player preferences.

Have a question about the frame rate at the sims 3

igazor
5 years ago
@ingridmf - My AMD control panel (Radeon Pro) interface doesn't look anything like that at all and neither did the much older one I had on my 2011 era card. I think we may have to, for now, say yes you have found the correct settings and then see how the actual fps behaves in-game before deciding whether to add in RTSS.
NikkeiSimmer
Seasoned Adventurer
5 years ago
@puzzlezaddict - from what I can get out of the info, I’m seeing nVidia’s 6GB Super (ASUS GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER Overclocked 6GB Phoenix Fan Edition 1830 MHz Boost, 14002 MHz Memory) at $299.99.

It's something to consider once I get employed (getting bites but looking for gardening job. Good pay, work outdoors and in a job that I can do day after day without getting confused with immeasurable lists of tasks - yes finding out that the problems I’ve had with organization all stem from Executive Dysfunction which is problems with planning, problem-solving, organization, and time management. Unfortunately they haven’t figured out every thing that goes along with it, but it provides me with a base to control it:
A) getting into a simpler job which I have some competency at -gardening provides me with that
B) Routine allows me to go in, do what I have to do, and go home with a paycheck twice a week without wondering is this the day I miss something and scum-up royally.
C) It let’s me get my dignity back.

Once there’s a regular pay-check that I’m earning I can manage to make sure bills are paid and we’ll even have a little for savings and maybe some of the luxuries in life; like being able to build MY gaming/photo/video editing rig., (@Featherbelle is working PT (can’t get hours from her current employer so she’s gone in to interview for a second job which will give her near FT)

People might ask why we haven’t gone on pogey (Canadian term for the dole) if we’re that tight. Pogey is a trap -there’s no easy way out once you're in the system. They dock you for every amount you make over a certain amount and it’s designed to keep you in perpetual poverty with no easy recourse. That’s not something I want to have happen. (Insert inspirational quote here). :mrgreen:

There’s always a chance to make life better if you wake up in the morning and you are still breathing. ;) Keep fighting; that’s all I know, when life takes a swing at me and knocks me flat I get back on my feet and go, “good try, life, you hit like a two day old kitten, is that the best you got?”

Yeah, I know, I’m getting deep and philosophical , but well I’m gonna dig myself out of this financial mess and get my system back to play Sims, in the meantime, I got you guys as moral support. ;)

And just for levity now that I’ve completely derailed the topic here.

Even if it’s just graphics card problems or life problems hey, do what Monty Python said.
https://youtu.be/SJUhlRoBL8M
:mrgreen: ?

@ingridmf glad you got that fps issue sorted out since a burned out video card can be extremely costly. So you’re now able to see your fps drop to 60fps or is it only dropping to 100fps and staying there? An occasional rise above 60fps (depending on the intensity of GPU usage) may happen, @igazor can confirm that but it shouldn’t rise to more than 100fps for more than a few seconds or stay there for any length of time.
puzzlezaddict
Hero+
5 years ago
@Nikkei_Simmer I know it might be a while, but you could almost certainly get a 1650 for under $200. For example:

https://www.mikescomputershop.com/product/10329708

The cheapest 1660 not Super I saw was $288 with an additional $20 rebate:

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=43_557_559&item_id=136154

It looks like there have been a few blips of temporary sales that brought prices down even more, for example, a 1650 for $170. When you're starting to think about buying, you can browse pcpartpicker for current prices, or even set it to alert you when the price for a specific model drops below a certain threshold.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/
Lilinss
5 years ago
"Nikkei_Simmer;c-17365823" wrote:
@ingridmf glad you got that fps issue sorted out since a burned out video card can be extremely costly. So you’re now able to see your fps drop to 60fps or is it only dropping to 100fps and staying there? An occasional rise above 60fps (depending on the intensity of GPU usage) may happen, @igazor can confirm that but it shouldn’t rise to more than 100fps for more than a few seconds or stay there for any length of time.

It was occasionally rising above 100 fps and staying there. Which is why I downloaded RTSS as per @igazor post above and now it's always under 60 so thank you!
aodoherty
New Spectator
6 years ago
"igazor;c-16981786" wrote:
It's not the TS3 program that is the deciding factor on where to cap frame rates, it's your monitor. If you have a 60 Hz monitor/screen, than any frames per second above 60 fps your monitor cannot interpret and they are the equivalent of digital noise being generated for no useful purpose. If you have a 120 Hz or higher monitor, then the frame rate can be safely capped at such a higher rate.

Most flat screen monitors sold in the US are 60 Hz, even the high end Apple ones (or whatever brand they are selling today) for high precision video editing. Game enthusiasts will seek out those with higher refresh rates and the markets in some countries seem to have settled on 75 Hz as the standard for casual use for whatever reason, hence some differences.

The issue with TS3 in particular is that like other games of its development era it has no functional built-in fps limiter and the higher end video cards being sold today can run wild on it, generating fps in the many hundreds or thousands. Besides being horrible for game performance and leading to graphics glitches, lag, screen tears, and crashes, this is potentially harmful to the system and can burn its components out if left unfixed.

Thanks so much for detailed explanation. I learned the frame rates have to be well matched with monitor refresh rates today. :) Then where can I find my monitor Hz on my computer?
aodoherty
New Spectator
6 years ago
"TreyNutz;c-16981793" wrote:
Depends on your monitor. If the native refresh rate of your monitor is 120, then having the game's FPS capped at 120 is fine. However, if your monitor's refresh rate is 60, there's no benefit at all to capping your frame rate higher than 60.

The danger is that if uncapped, the frame rate will run in the hundreds and needlessly tax your graphics card. The advice to limit frame rate to 60 is due to the fact that in the past most LCD monitors had a refresh rate of 60. But that's changing as newer monitors might have a higher refresh rate.

Thanks very much. Is Hz the same as Refresh rate?
igazor
6 years ago
For Win 10, that would be a right-click on the desktop then Display Settings (Screen Resolution for Win 7) > Advanced Settings. Not sure about Win 8, should be similar.

Aren't you on an iMac though, or am I temporarily confused? :)
aodoherty
New Spectator
6 years ago
"igazor;c-16981818" wrote:
For Win 10, that would be a right-click on the desktop then Display Settings (Screen Resolution for Win 7) > Advanced Settings. Not sure about Win 8, should be similar.

Aren't you on an iMac though, or am I temporarily confused? :)

Yes I'm still playing on imac but on win 10, boot camp for the sims 3. :)
aodoherty
New Spectator
6 years ago
@igazor

Thank you. I found my refresh rates of my monitor. It's still 60 Hz only. I wish I had a monitor supports 144 one. haha..
aodoherty
New Spectator
6 years ago
@igazor

Sorry I dropped by here just now and I understood your point now.:) It was the best example that anyway my sim will burnt his waffles and get late at work on any monitors. LOL I learned the new thing 144 Hz monitor is helping more for first person shooter games. I appreciate your all replies. Thanks again. :)