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Jomilej
Seasoned Ace
14 hours ago

Erratic sims shouldn't have the Straight Jacket Icon even for their moodlets

Hello everyone,

I noticed that even if the team changed the straight Jacket Icon for erratic sims in CAS, they kept that same icon for their mood changes...as someone who is neurodivergent, extreme mood changes happen all the time for me but the fact that it's associated with "the need" of straight jackets in the game makes me feel so bad? I don't know how to explain it but it feels like people who have mood changes needs to be contained.

Maybe the team could change these icons: Here's an example of what my erratic sim got from switching to a sad moodlet

6 Replies

  • I just touched base on this in a previous post of mine about traits and I mentioned erratic traits and how it’s definitely due for an update ! 

  • HollownessDevour's avatar
    HollownessDevour
    Seasoned Ace
    2 hours ago

    Yes, I know there is an effort of inclusion, diversity and non-offensive/attempts of political correct terms. I just sometimes think that being "PC" can be counter productive in some cases—such as this case.

  • mariefoxprice83's avatar
    mariefoxprice83
    Seasoned Ace
    2 hours ago

    I thought erratic was an odd choice for a replacement name, I admit, but I don't doubt that the good intentions were there.

  • HollownessDevour's avatar
    HollownessDevour
    Seasoned Ace
    3 hours ago

    I understand that, but as someone with serious mental health issues (and actually hospitalized over it—so a top candidate for being a possible offended party). I understand insane is an outdate term, and hardly refer to it as offensive.  "Psycho" (any bf that calls their gf this is about to regret it) or "erratic" (less hurtful but gaslighting) is far more offensive in tone and in rudeness, if someone called me either of these in real life, I'd be insulted, where as the term "are you insane?" can be mused as a person who likes very spicy food/is an adrenaline junky, and no one tends to be hurt emotionally.

    It is also used in a game (and is used in story telling) as a stereotype—such as pirates (as no modern day pirates even come close to the stereotyped theme "Pirates" and even era pirates is hardly accurate, it is clearly fantasy/story inspired). 

    The term insane/mad is really more story and fictional themed these days, IMHO, unless this is the vernacular to offend those with mental health issues regionally. But to me insane, mad/madness or certifiable are just so old, and generalized terms they hold no weight to offense. I honestly, only used Insane in Sims 3 for my Alice in Wonderland themed Sims as they were the most apt and did not offend me as a person living with mental health issues.

  • mariefoxprice83's avatar
    mariefoxprice83
    Seasoned Ace
    4 hours ago

    If I remember rightly the trait was originally insane but was changed to erratic due to the stigma associated with mental health issues.

  • Erratic trait internally is called Insane (like in Sims 3). Honestly, I think these should be two different traits. Like in Sims 3 there was Neurotic and Insane, I felt that worked. You can be neurotic without being insane.

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