Please update the secret lots & neighbourhoods

This is precicely why I'd like an "edit neighbourhood" button to place things. When you bring things yourself and place from inventory, they are placed somewhere next to your sim.

I placed a tent recently and it was not accessible to the sim who just placed it. She threw her hands up and complained she couldn't reach it. So i had to pick it back up and place it again.

I'd like to be able to create areas like this very specifically. Being able to place them like I place things on lots. It's much easier. Even using TOOL I always rotate and angle my items on my lot then move them with TOOL later into the position I want - because it's so much easier than doing it with a menu.

I've just seen SatchOnSims has uploaded a video about this very topic. It helps explain my feelings on it:

I would love an edit world/neighbourhood option. I feel we are very limited on our creativity, since most worlds have very few lots—let alone empty lots. If we could at least edit world/neighbourhood—that be something. Or you know just give us a "create a world" program XD

I don't remember a single video where this guy doesn't complain endlessly. I prefer Carl's Sims videos he is more nuanced. And offers better ideas on making improvements. 

In my opinion, Satch is just brutally honest. And he's British, honestly complaining is a national pasttime. I don't have an issue with his negativity. He shares a lot of the criticisms I have with the game and he's just straight up about it.

He still enjoys the game to a degree, he just makes it very clear where it's flaws are.

I like Carl's Guides too but I don't watch him all the time. I don't really watch very many Youtube Simmers, I only tend to watch some of them that give updates on news. I don't watch lets plays.

my idea is a little different (i just created this topic similar to this but not exactly alike) but i also want the secret worlds to be usefull or atleast make it so that we can buy things you can place in secret worlds

like maybe some kind of a picnic or something?

and i agree with the worlds we are having, some worlds looks more empty than the other worlds, it doesn't feels alive, i don't like when things are empty in the game we should do something with the worlds too

Absolutely with the secret lots needing a bit more pizass, as well as off-lot neighboorhood areas needing more to do.

(Honestly, I think more neighborhoods should incorporate big objects that aren't necessarily practical to keep on the home lot, if they're going to have so much empty lotless space. I like that Chestnut Ridge did this with the horse training equipment, and was saddened that, for example. San Sequoia didn't do this with the big treehouse object. Considering Everdew is home to not just fairies but plantsims, it would've made sense for them to include the plantsim challenge stump hidden somewhere in the neighborhood. Et cetera.)

On the topic of secret lots... can I say something?

The harvestibles on those lots should be immune to seasons. Sylvan Glade is an eternal fey-like paradise with no bad weather, while Forgotten Grotto is literally sheltered away in a cave. The wild plants there should always be in season the way that plants placed under a roof are.

That is true, that special lots have advantages like that. Though personally if I'm making use of plants, I will usually shelter them all at home myself. We even have a full greenhouse kit to make a sheltered area for plants that can be productive in all seasons.

So unfortunately for me, that still falls into the "I have plants at home" 🙁 issue

As I mentioned in a previous reply, I decided to reinstall TO.O.L. from participating in this discussion. I've already started adding some things around my house to try and liven up the surrounding area and filling some gaps. I'm in the main market nieghbourhood of the Cottage Living world. 
This small area I've added to used to only have 1 bench in it, and nothing else. Now there's a fish & chips vendor, a flower vendor, a busking area and a table and chairs with nearby bin. It already feels so much better! (mod needed to make vendors tend the stalls though)

*Sorry I took the photo at night, I felt it showed the vendors better with their stall lights on

Without my newly crafted little area this world only has a bench, plants, a dig spot, a picnic table (no nearby grill), a fishing spot, skating rink, window shopping buildings I never use, grocery stalls, and other tables. (also has the regular fair events that spawn in the centre).
It would benefit so highly if you could be at your home lot over the road, and just walk over to the bustling pub by the river without a loading screen, watching other sims gathering and getting drinks. It's such a huge shame it doesn't work this way 😢

I was just thinking about how the Seasons pack adds various things around areas that are outside of lot boundaries and are usually just bare patches of land. So we get ice/roller rinks and seasonal food stalls here and there. It would be cool if a feature was added to give us some control over things like that to allow us to have them all the time. They're there for a time and then vanish as things currently work. In Oasis Springs for example in Mirage Canyon I've filled all those lots with public lots by adding a Garden Centre, spa and nightclub but the surrounding area is quite barren except for when the roller rink pops up for a while. I can place roller rinks on vacant lots myself, but this is an example of a space that needs livening up a bit.

I always quite liked the City festivals (from the CL pack I think?) like the spice festival or the one with the sakura tea?

Those are consistently quite fun to do - I don't do them all the time by any means but I usually enjoy them when I go.

We need more things like this!