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lilsmithxxv
Seasoned Novice
4 months ago

Religious Inclusivity in Ts4

I want to address the issue of religious representation in The Sims 4, because the current approach is inconsistent and exclusionary in a way that goes against EA’s own stated values of diversity and inclusion.

 

To be clear from the start:

**I am not asking for ANY existing cultural or religiously-coded content to be removed.**

Representation of Muslim, Sikh, Jewish, and South Asian cultures ARE IMPORTANT and should stay.

 

The issue is that The Sims 4 includes culturally and religiously coded items for several minority religions, but provides **zero** way to express Christian cultures, practices, or symbols — even in the most subtle, unobtrusive ways.

 

Examples that already exist in the game include:

* hijabs

* turbans

* modest-wear collections

* candle-lighting traditions

* food and décor strongly associated with specific religious festivals

EA labels these as “cultural,” and that’s fine — but they **are** cultural expressions *intertwined with religion*.

There is nothing wrong with that. In fact, it’s AMAZING.

The problem is that Christian cultures are denied this same courtesy.

Christian cultural identity cannot be expressed through clothing alone. It is expressed through:

* churches

* Mass or services

* clergy attire

* funerary traditions 

* crosses or rosaries

* holiday practices

* Christian architectural styles

Yes I'm aware funerals, weddings and even Christmas is included in game, but theres no option at all for Christian cultural norms for these ceremonies, yet there are options for other religious cultures (again, I'm not trying to undermine these cultures I love that they're included i just think there should be more diversity and options for all religious cultures)

None of this appears in the game. Not even symbolic equivalents. Not even a simple rosary necklace.

So while other groups get meaningful representation, Christian cultures receive **no representation at all**, it's nearly impossible to even create an Irish family in game because Christian tradition and culture is such a big part of Ireland (catholic v protestant cultures like st Patricks day, Sunday mass, chapels or churches and the kids that help during services)

This is not equality — it is selective inclusion based on what is “safe” for marketing.

If EA can include items associated with Islam, Sikhism, Judaism, and Hindu culture — and rightfully call that diversity — then refusing even the smallest Christian cultural item is not neutrality.

It is an inconsistency, and it ends up excluding one of the world’s largest and most culturally varied groups.

**I am not asking for proselytizing, sermons, or heavy-handed religious mechanics.**

I am simply asking for the same level of cultural recognition that other groups already receive.

True diversity does not mean picking and choosing which cultures are acceptable to represent.

True inclusion does not mean excluding one group because the company fears backlash.

I want to see a Sims 4 where Christian players — of all denominations — can express their cultural identity in the same respectful, optional, and purely cosmetic ways that other groups already can.

That is equality.

That is representation.

And that is what real diversity looks like.

I know there are mods for these things however console players cannot access these, we cannot truly be representing all cultural differences coming together if cultural differences are intentionally being left out for fear of backlash. It's unethical and again, not what true diversity looks like.

3 Replies

  • As a catholic i don't have a crazy deep need to have all of catholicism , but i'd still like to represent myself or people around me. I think accessories would be enough for me, (since we shouldn't depend on objects to practice our faith) because they would be something we could add or not to sims to represent that identity.

    But i'd like to see the discatded bow animation from "Snowy Escape" as a base game interaction we can make sims do (Never autonomous please) to statues, paintings, people or places. That way anyone could recreate their beliefs in the game all by themself.

    Also i think our sims should be able to create statues through woodworking, clay, ceramics, etc. (Since these objects barely show up in game autonomously) from the franchise like The Watcher, Beelzebeef, Madre Cosecha, Mother Nature, Sulani deities, etc. that ressemble real life things and can help us recreate our beliefs.

    P.S.: And the fact the they create by themself could also add an "energy connection" moodlet with it, maybe explained by the magic in the world.

     

  • I am agnostic and I think CAS/BB to represent any/multiple religions (cultures) even if it is just implied shouldn't be issue (as long as any gameplay features are generic "spiritualty" or "superstition", and only can be construed as a specific religious practice is if customized/roleplayed by the individual player/simmer). So that, as always, it is up to the player, and not forced upon other players/simmers. Just as anything else the level of inclusion and diversity is/should be up to a player/simmer.

    Personally, in Sims 3, I made my own Gothic Catholic inspired church for graveyard lot. If this is possible in Sims 3, then at least a level of this should be possible for a player to recreate/create in Sims 4.

  • Mahomie1113's avatar
    Mahomie1113
    Seasoned Newcomer
    16 hours ago

    I’ve noticed this as well and it truly is upsetting. As a Christian, I do wish they would include representation for Christianity as well. And while I don’t use a lot of the things they’ve added over the years, I love that they’ve included things like the menorah (seasons) and the Chinese New Year collection. But it’s also a bit obvious that they have excluded certain things as well, showing that they don’t really want to be all-inclusive. And I really recognize that by the fact that they do directly reference other religions/cultures with the actual name of things (again, the menorah and even the kinara), BUT they refused to call the Christmas trees by that name. They are called the “holiday tree”. 
    Anyways, I found this forum bc a lot of people don’t understand why I have stepped away from supporting Sims like I once did. I wanted to see if anyone else has noticed this or had any feelings about it. It’s been years since I’ve invested any money in Sims and I honestly don’t see myself doing it ever again. I feel like it’s moving in a direction I don’t want to support, but that is just me. I do hope that one day they actually live up to who they believe they are. 

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