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7 months ago

Deleting a certain rental lot causes LE

Product: The Sims 4
PlatformPC
Which language are you playing the game in? Russian
How often does the bug occur? 100% in one particular save
What is your current game version number? 1.112.481.1030
What expansions, game packs, and stuff packs do you have installed? all packs
Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? You can't. It happened in one particular save of mine (I hope). I saw, while placing the building on Kiyomatsu Point, that it didn't save the beds/baths count right, which was the clear indication that something is wrong and I should quit without saving and choose another rental building or even leave it be, but this time I ignored it, I wanted rental in that spot. Here I am. 
What happens when the bug occurs? I receive countless amount of LE while playing. Every visit of every lot after that is followed with LE. I had 450 kb LE after visiting every Willow's lot while testing.
What do you expect to see? No LE would be so nice.
Have you installed any customization with the game, e.g. Custom Content or Mods? I had and have. I tested it in both ''states' for the same save.
Did this issue appear after a specific patch or change you made to your system? Between the release and where you fixed it, I believe.

So. I actually almost gave up since it's 99% save bug. About a year/year and a half ago I felt an urge to place a rental lot on that beautiful 50x50 Kiyomatsu Point lot. Problems began right away as it didn't want to save the bedrooms/bathrooms count. I KNEW it's definitely unsafe, and when it was happening with other empty lots I looked for other lots in the Gallery until it looked fine. But this time I NEEDED (haha) to place something on that lot to populate it, but NONE of the Gallery buildings worked. Suspicious and clearly a warning to stop trying to put anything rental there. I knew it, and I hate myself now for deciding to ignore it "this one time".

Well, now, after 4 life stages passed in my game, I decided to do something about it, because this lot was also strangely avoided by the MCCC's move-in mechanics. So, I "evict" the only one resident I made live there myself, bulldozer the lot, bulldozer the landscape, change the type to "Generic" and press "Manage worlds" - boom - Last Exception. i don't see it yet, but then I load my household in Henford - boom - LE, MCCC LE, and BE right on my screen. And every time I move to any other lot now. Long story short, since I spent about 10 hours trying to solve it: with or without mods, no lot type switching, no replacing with another building, no deleting Snowy Escape helps. It's always about persistence_service.py:685 and business_service.py:278. The only solution that kind of worked - deleting For Rent (or leave this lot forever, of course). But man, restoring the consequences will take time. So maybe, if anyone has ideas on how to reset this *ahem* lot without such drastic measures, please, tell. I'll attach my LEs (no, I won't): 63 is vanilla, replacing with another rental, bulldozering, type changing, replacing with the original from the Gallery (then leaving the lot via manage worlds and loading to the family in Henford), 21 is vanilla, bulldozering, changing the lot type to generic (then leaving the lot via manage worlds and loading to the family in Henford - the content is almost identical to the previous one but there are some changes and I'm not sure I'm qualified enough to ignore them), and just LE is modded, bulldozering, changing the lot type to residential (then leaving the lot via manage worlds and loading to the family in Henford - the content is almost identical again plus many notes about mods).

So, again, it's just stuck in that particular save in that particular lot - I've not been able to reproduce it (thankfully), and I only found one radical solution to fix it and am in the process of preparations now. This topic is just my last desperate hope in case someone somehow knows how to hard reset... I don't know, For Rent's connection to one particular lot, I guess. Thank you for your attention.

P.S. Uh, the site says I cannot attach my LEs'... "content type (text/plain) does not match its file extension". How and how should I share them?

Just put 63 here, I guess:

2 24ae1fbc5f42a165678d23ee desync ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc 2025-01-20 00:12:46 Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.112.481.1030-1.200.000.646.Release business_service.py:278 24ae1fbc5f42a165678d23ee Exception in <function c_api_buildbuy_session_end at 0x00007FF4B7007440>, args: (34075681717932796, 2400750481, 1), kwargs: {} AttributeError("'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'") (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name') Traceback (most recent call last): File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 183, in wrapper File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\build_buy.py", line 1221, in c_api_buildbuy_session_end File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\build_buy.py", line 1269, in on_zone_data_change File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_service.py", line 278, in on_multi_unit_zone_change AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'name'rtim=0 Client Session Time: 22.01 Num Save Errors: 0 Num Load Errors: 0 Current Game State: 0x96d01090 LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1 Origin Version: 13,377,0,5890 Modded: False SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 32.0.15.6636, GUID: 3763D219-0539-11EB-BFBB-95A0A4B69B17 2 24ae1fbc5f42a165678d23ee desync ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc 2025-01-20 00:13:29 Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.112.481.1030-1.200.000.646.Release persistence_service.py:685 24ae1fbc5f42a165678d23ee [manus] business_service failed to handle zone load due to exception (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lot_template_id') Traceback (most recent call last): File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 130, in wrapped File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 126, in finally_wrap File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 157, in wrapper File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 175, in wrapper File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 383, in c_api_client_connect File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 609, in do_zone_spin_up File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 1711, in update File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_spin_up_service.py", line 274, in on_enter File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 429, in on_zone_load File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_service.py", line 561, in on_zone_load File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\business\business_tracker.py", line 199, in on_zone_load File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\multi_unit\rental_unit_manager.py", line 238, in on_zone_load File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\multi_unit\rental_unit_manager.py", line 173, in house_description_id File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 685, in get_house_description_id AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lot_template_id'rtim=0 Client Session Time: 22.01 Num Save Errors: 0 Num Load Errors: 0 Current Game State: 0x96d01090 LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1 Origin Version: 13,377,0,5890 Modded: False SystemInfo: Windows 10 10.0.19045 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 32.0.15.6636, GUID: 3763D219-0539-11EB-BFBB-95A0A4B69B17

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