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PugLove888
Hero (Retired)
6 years ago

Re: more ideas for sims 4

@Deborah21081987, I agree with @jpkarlsen  about realistic labor!  It is a long process, and very messy and painful. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ข It isn't pleasant, which is why they call it labor!  ๐Ÿคจ The Sims is supposed to be a lighthearted game.  That is why they did Sim labor in the way that it is in the game. 

As for wheelchairs, one of the Sim Gurus has mentioned considering this and other disabilities.  But there are many pitfalls with this subject in a game like TS4.  First, they would have to completely make new meshes and animations for each age group, except for babies.  Many existing buildings in the game (and ones other have uploaded to the Gallery) would not be accessible as they are right now.๐Ÿ˜ข  EA would have to put in a ton of work to make this even close to working. But then there are other disabilities that people also would want in the game.  People have mentioned everything from wheelchairs, crutches, blindness, deafness, asthma, epilepsy, missing limbs, cerebral palsy, conjoined twins, and much more! ๐Ÿคจ No matter how many of these conditions EA puts in the game, someone will feel left out! ๐Ÿ˜ขSo while they would be trying to be more inclusive, they would end up being exclusive.  And then there is the fact that while many people would like these conditions to be in the game, many people with these conditions do not want it in the game because they play the game to escape from these real-life difficulties.๐Ÿ˜ž  If EA were ever to have disabilities in the game, then they would have to do it with a lot of respect, and it would be best to incorporate this into a new game , perhaps The Sims 5 (if they make that) or in a separate game that is like the Sims but deals with these issues. ๐Ÿ™‚

As for Religion, this would probably create a lot of problems, because, again, there are too many religions to include them all.  Also, all religions should be treated with respect, and this is extremely difficult to do in a lighthearted game.  ๐Ÿคจ Also this could cause fighting in the forums about religion, and I don't' think anybody wants that! ๐Ÿ˜ž

As for Create your own worlds, that would be a lot of fun! ๐Ÿฅณ I know a lot of people would love this! 

As for cars, there isn't much need for them in a world that isn't an open world like TS3 was.  They could do it like they did for TS2 (which was a completely closed world) but there really wouldn't' be any driving, just Sims getting in and out of cars and pulling out of their driveways before disappearing into a loading screen.  Most people would want to actually see your Sims drive to each location.  ๐Ÿคจ  Besides, some worlds like Forgotten Hollow (from the Vampires GP) don't' really have any worlds, so cars wouldn't work there unless they totally redid that town.โ˜น๏ธ  So, without an open world, there isn't much use for cars.  And TS4 was built on a totally different engine than TS3 was. EA has said they would remake TS4 to have an open world.  The reason that they didn't make TS4 with an open world is because the open world in TS3 would cause incredible lagging, even on the best computers -- and on many computers the game would grind to a halt! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ I don't' want to wait 20 or more minutes for the game to load and then have the game be almost unplayable like it was in TS3.๐Ÿ˜ž  If they could find a way to make an open world that would work on most computers, then that would be different , but for that to happen, it would have to be in TS5, if they are going to make that! 

I would love more eyecolors!  โค๏ธ

I would also love more animals and farming! :eahigh_file: I don't' know if they will do this, but a lot of people want farming in the game.  It would be something new and would work nicely with a lot of the packs we already have! ๐Ÿฅณ

Finally, it is possible that they are planning, or even creating University while we speak! ๐Ÿ™‚ I have no confirmation on this, just speculation.  However, it is the most requested pack that we haven't' gotten yet, and University has existed in both TS2 and TS3!  So there is a good chance we could get this!  I hope it is more like the TS2 version because that one was extremely fun! โค๏ธ

Happy Simming! ๐Ÿฅณ

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  • @PugLove888 

    I'd like to see sims have some illness, doesn't need to be any specific illness in real life though. Just some simple illness and make the sims unable to go outside, unable to perform certain actions, etc.

    As for Religion, I don't think they need to include real-life religion. The Sims 4 Team can create a fictional religion that only exists in The Sims world (for examples, Yoba the ancient guardian deity in Stardew Valley games). By this way, The Sims 4 Team can avoid any problem and no one will fight or argue in the forum since the religion is fictional and unspecific. I'd like to see Religious and Atheist traits.

    Create Your Own World seems fun to me. But I don't know how much work needed to make that happen.

    I wished to see cars, but then I realize the world isn't open like The Sims 3. We won't be able to see sims driving around. But nevermind, I still expect to have real cars (not a toy cars, scaled bigger and then put on the lots) in the Buy Mode.

    More color is always a big YES!

    I've seen many ask for Farming Packs. Hope this happens, it will be fun to see close-to-nature gameplay.

    I think they already working on this. I can't go to the Youtube comment section without reading a comment requesting University packs.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @AndyZhang2896, I'm guessing that either you don't have the Get to Work EP, or that the illnesses in that pack aren't challenging enough for you.  The Original Poster wanted handicaps and diseases, though, not illnesses.  But you are correct in that our current illnesses don't really restrict you from doing anything (you still can go to work or school) unless you have too many other negative moodlets. 

    I do like your idea for a vague made-up religion, so nobody gets offended. ๐Ÿ™‚  Perhaps this is what the OP @Deborah21081987 had in mind, but she hasn't replied back, and I just assumed she meant  real religions. ๐Ÿค”

    I do wish they would have the Creat A World since so many people want more worlds in their game. We had that in TS3, and I thought it was hard to use. I'm sure if I had instruction I would have liked it better.๐Ÿ˜ณ  But I know a great many people loved it! :eahigh_file:

    I wouldn't mind nicer looking cars for our driveways.  I'm just afraid that even with non-functional cars most people would be really angry.  ๐Ÿ˜ž  You and I would be satisfied, but Twitter would go haywire with outrage that the cars were non-functional! ๐Ÿคจ  TS2 had cars that our Sims would get in and pull in and out of the driveway. The car would then disappear and you'd get a loading screen and show up wherever you selected to travel to.   I think you could also woohoo in them.  I know you could fix them up and resell them ! They had that aspect in TS3 as well! In TS3 the cars would travel through the world , but the Sims would teleport into and out of the cars!  It was kind of weird! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

    Well, they might be working on a Farming pack.. I really hope they plan on doing one! But just because people are talking about it in the YouTube comment section doesn't mean that EA is planning on doing it.  People are also talking about how they wish they would bring back open worlds,. cars, the CASt color/pattern wheel, babies that aren't objects, pre-teens, etc., but most of those will never be brought into TS4.  However, there is always a chance that EA will hear and see these requests , and what they can't do in TS4, they might put into TS5, if they make a TS5! ๐Ÿคž๐Ÿฅณ

    Finally, one of the Sim Gurus Tweeted a teaser that we might  be getting a new staircase type! (Most likely spiral). :eahigh_file: This was asked because spiral stairs seem like they would go great with a Magic pack, which we are getting in a few weeks with The Realm of Magic Game Pack! 

    https://twitter.com/SimGuruRomeo/status/1163839694259384320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1163839694259384320&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsimscommunity.info%2F2019%2F08%2F21%2Fthe-sims-4-realm-of-magic-simguru-qa%2F

    @MsSamLStory, The Sims 2 is my favorite version of the Sims!!! โค๏ธ  It was fantastic for stroytellers  and had phenomenal gameplay!๐Ÿฅณ Each Sim would collect both good and bad memories and you would have memory markers in their information panels that you could reference.  You could also compile your pictures from your game and put it on your Sim page and make like a story book for others to read!  I had so much fun with this!  The gameplay also focused more on events and would have these cutscenes for things like a first kiss or a baby being born! :eahigh_file:

    But, even if they were to add a feature like this, I don't think it would be anywhere near as good as the TS2 gaming experience was. But since you never played TS2, you would have noting to compare it to! ๐Ÿ˜‡  I think this would be a step in the right direction.๐Ÿฅณ However, since many of us have been playing TS4 since it came out 5 years ago, I'd rather them have done this sooner as many of our most played families wont' be able to have their memories recorded. ๐Ÿ˜ข Still, I would enjoy something like this. โค๏ธ

    Finally, I don't think it is a good idea to encourage people to "spam" EA with suggestions.  It is better to discuss suggestions  within the community (but don't spam the community either) and then post the suggestions either here  (like you did), or on the official TS4 Forums : https://forums.thesims.com/en_US/discussion/934752/feedback-share-with-us-what-you-would-want-to-see-in-the-game

    ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • @PugLove888 Didnโ€™t mean for that to be taken too seriously, though I do get anxious and obsessed over ideas and start sharing them at impulse. Which...I guess is spamming even when itโ€™s not done in the exact same place, soz. Should I remove it before someone really does that?

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    Sashas0nic
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    Hi @MsSamLStory I realize Mods are not for 'everyone' but just thought I'd mention, that the mod MCCC allows for what you're mentioning, (stories) mods, if kept up to date for your game (and you may only need a few) are not difficult to maintain, the MCCC, for example, is kept up to date, and here are some tips on maintaining your game with mods and cc, if you do choose to use a few of them. Zerbu also has something called 'Experiences' that I used to use.

     @Deborah21081987 There's also:

    • A Private Practice Mod, (also has a current update) by SimRealist
    • There are also various mods/cc for farming available, like fruit/veg stalls, by Alex Croft @ ModTheSims (functional Grocery Sets) and at TSR soloriya makes a lot of amazing Rustic Style food/produce stands and items. Also, farm animals (static) I think, but are available to 'sell' and made by Kawaiistacie. ('my first Animal Farm')
    • A Get to College mod, and a Go to School mod (they are not compatible together though, if you choose one, stick to just one)

    Hope this helps a bit, and

    Sasha


    Big fan of Mods and cc, there are some awesome artists out there, making wonderful ways to customize your Sims 4 Game!


    I have no connection to EA

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @MsSamLStory, I'm glad you didn't mean to suggest spamming in a bad way!  You could always change your post to encourage people to just make a suggestion to EA. ๐Ÿ˜‡ Even if you didn't really mean for people to spam EA or others, some people could take it the wrong way, and nobody would want that to happen! ๐Ÿ˜ž

    But I'm glad you are so excited about the Sims! ๐Ÿฅณ 

  • @Sashas0nic I use mods and I love them dearly. However, the mods you mentioned arenโ€™t exactly what I meant, but itโ€™s ok. (I might still use them though, because my sims themselves deserve memories) I donโ€™t think I would use that โ€˜Memories Patchโ€™ I was referring to myself hence the part of my original post about โ€œBeing God of a virtual worldโ€, I actually quite enjoy creating the stories myself and seeing how other sims in other universes have different stories such as Darling Welsh, from City Living, is a great example.

    Her story changes from simmer to simmer, in some sheโ€™s cis gendered, trans, non-binary. Some people make her and her roommates cousins, some say sheโ€™s a social worker that took Darling in. I LOVE THAT! I love the changing stories and how anyone can create a different story for the same character.

    Also, I forgot who asked for it, but university....Why not have it as a Get to Work add on? Like, I can see EA, or a talented modder, having University be a part of their โ€œjobsโ€ menu and give simmerโ€™s the option of going with the sim to โ€œworkโ€ (University) or just sending their sim off. As for how to pick majors, maybe have a list of โ€œJobsโ€ as different Majors and your sim can earn skill points according to which major chosen (Thereโ€™s a better schools mod that does this for elementary and high school). Also when you โ€œGraduateโ€ and you receive a degree you get a trait called โ€œGraduateโ€ which can function like the โ€œConnectionsโ€ trait that gives you jobs at higher levels.

    ....

    Man, I wish I could program.

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    Sashas0nic
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    No problem, @MsSamLStory  guess I mainly mentioned the MCCC as it has the Story Progression, and controlling of NPCs to a large degree, as well as much more (I don't use it myself, but hear a lot about it) also, from your mention of 'Stories' and such, it can do that also to an extent. (jump to about 6:10 mins in the following video, for those that want an outline of the mod)

    I often post in these topic threads, in case people search for answers in the future.. ๐Ÿค“ ๐Ÿค”

    Afterall the Sims 4 is pretty packed full, with the expansions, but sometimes customization is there for people too โญ

    There's also a Mod called Meaningful Stories, by Roburky, who is constantly adding to its features.

    Happy Simming: Play it, Mod it, (or not) but Have Fun โ˜•

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @Psychotps, Some people want University to because they are replicating real-life experiences, others want it to tell stories, while others want it because they remember the fun they had with it in TS2 and TS3.  For me, I loved TS2โ€™s University! โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅณ I played that pack all the time.:eahigh_file:  (I didnโ€™t like TS3โ€™s University nearly as much, but I did enjoy it.)  I also find that by having University, it gives our Young Adult Sims more distinction from regular Adult Sims.  

    Farming is much, much more than just growing some fruits and veggies  in a garden.๐Ÿคจ  When people say they want farms, they usually mean they want animals as well: cows, chickens, sheep , and horses.  Not to mention that the produce from farms is on a much larger scale than even our biggest gardens could handle.๐Ÿ˜ƒ  Also we would like to see grain crops: wheat, oats, rye, soy, corn.  With a farm pack (especially if it were an EP ) we could churn butter, bake bread with our harvest, spin and weave wool, โ€œput upโ€ canned goods, and live off the land. :eahigh_file: True, not this doesnโ€™tโ€™ fit into everyoneโ€™s playing style, but neither was City Living, or almost every other pack, except for maybe Seasons.๐Ÿ˜‰  Are you saying you only want packs that directly benefit you? ๐Ÿค” I didnโ€™tโ€™ want laundry in the game, but Iโ€™m glad they included it since the vast majority of people really wanted it!  I donโ€™t use the laundry features much, but I do use a lot of the CAS and Build/Buy mode stuff that that pack has!  

    You might use CC for more eye colors, but not everyone can have CC in their game or even want CC in their game! ๐Ÿคจ I refuse to play with CC for a reason.  Other people might have parents that wonโ€™t let them use CC.โ˜น๏ธ  And letโ€™s not forget our fellow Simmers who play on a console and can't  have CC in their game! ๐Ÿ˜ž

    I donโ€™tโ€™ miss cars that much, and they are of little use in a  world that isnโ€™tโ€™ open. ๐Ÿ˜• But I did enjoy refurbishing cars in TS2 where we also didnโ€™t have an open world.  I just think hat if they give us cars and like they did in TS2, people will be mad that they canโ€™t really drive places like they could in TS3.๐Ÿคญ

     

    Also, in regards to the animations that they would have to do with spiral stairs.  You mention only 4 animations at the most (up, down, clockwise, counter-clockwise), but  they actually would have to do animations for each size of Sim that exists:

    1)Teen through Elder

    2) Children

    3) Toddlers

    And this would be both up and down. So at least 6 and double that if they have clockwise and counter clockwise stairs,  which comes to 12  โ€ฆ plus cats  (4 more animations {up, down clock, and counter} large dogs (4 more) and even 4 more if small dogs arenโ€™tโ€™ included in the cats animations since small dogs are the same size as small cats. 

    So, that would be 20 animations (and 24 if small dogs donโ€™t share the same animations with cats)!  Though, this might only be 10 to 12 animations if all spiral stairs go in the same direction. 

    Butโ€ฆ. I think the main problem with the lack of stairs is that there are 3 wall heights that our buildings can have. ๐Ÿ˜ž This might be why it has taken so long for EA to give us more stair types, and probably why CC creators havenโ€™tโ€™ done them yet!  And even if they had, we still need them in the game since not everyone can or wants to use CC and Mods.โ˜น๏ธ

    But Sim Guru Romeo has Tweeted a teaser about the possibility of spiral stairs coming to the game. I linked it above, but here is the link again:https://twitter.com/SimGuruRomeo/status/1163839694259384320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1163839694259384320&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsimscommunity.info%2F2019%2F08%2F21%2Fthe-sims-4-realm-of-magic-simguru-qa%2F

     

    @MsSamLStory , EA wouldnโ€™t do a University add-on to Get to Work.  That would mean that for people to use the University features they would have to buy Get To Work! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ  That would really reduce the amount of people who would purchase the add-on, and then a lot of people would get really angry! ๐Ÿ˜ž  Plus, any add-on of this type would be incredibly small in scale, and University would need to be at least the size of a Game Pack, and even better as the size of an Expansion Pack.  Yes, Modders could do what you suggested, but again, if you have to already have Get To Work to use the University stuff, people would be upset at the Modders for setting it up that way!๐Ÿคญ

    As for creating different stories for the same Sims, I have seen the Official Sims 4 Forums discuss this , including discussing Darling Walsh, as well as other well known Sims like the Goths, Pancakes, Count Vlad, etc. But you can explore multiple story lines for some of your Sims by creating multiple Save Games for the same Sim or Sim household.  So in one game you could have the Goths move into a bigger mansion and have a lot more children; but in another save game you can have them divorce and marry other people, and yet in another game you can move them all to the beach and turn them into Mermaids! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ  It is like having multiple parallel universes in your game! ๐Ÿค“๐Ÿฅณ

    If you really want to program, depending on the age you are now, you can either learn it when you go to college later on, or you can go back to school and learn it.  If you really are interested in it, look into it! ๐Ÿ˜‡

  • @PugLove888 I don't own Get to Work and I don't want it. Because it contains one thing that I hate so much, aliens. I hate occult, especially from what I heard, aliens sometimes kidnap a sims and there's a chance they get pregnant. It's a big NO from me.

    Yeah, pretty sure many people will say "This is not what we ask, we want FUNCTIONAL cars!". But even if it can be driven, I think it is pretty pointless. When we can travel around the world by pressing 'M' then choose a destination, why wasting time for walking to the car, get into a car, then waiting for the cars going into loading scene. Such a waste of time. But I don't mean I like the idea of pressing 'M' to travel around, it feels unrealistic. I prefer something like The Sims 3.

    If EA wants to make a car that can be driven around, the world should be open, without loading scene traveling from neighborhood to another neighborhood.

    Yeah, it's impossible to realize everyone's wish. There are too many requests. But important things that TS1, TS2, and TS3 have, I expect it to present in The Sims 4 too. What I feel now is some content gets removed in TS4, for examples, TS3 Island Paradise have Resort Lot Assignment but we don't have it in TS4. I really hope they bring it back. (Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm new to The Sims game. Beside TS4, I only have TS3 Base Game without EP, never played TS1 nor 2).

    Nice news! Did you know about this?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpSMezQpOPE

    There's probably an update coming before Realm of Magic released. I hope it's an update with spiral stair for the base game (modern style, classic style, etc). Then the Realm of Magic will include magic-themed spiral stair. It will be sad if you need to purchase RoM just to get spiral stair. But I don't think they will do something cruel like this LOL

    *Sorry if there's some grammar error. I'm not a native English speaker.

  • @Sashas0nic  Thanks! I actually downloaded the experience mod and itโ€™s a little weird, but Iโ€™m enjoying it so far. I already haveMCCC, and have story progression on and I enjoy it. Also shout out to my girl Urbansimss!

    @PugLove888 Sorry, but I feel like maybe youโ€™re wrong about the whole โ€œPeople would be mad at moddersโ€ point for two reasons.

    1. I HAVE mods that require Expansion packs in order to function. I also am not angry when modders (such as Kawiistacie) require certain expansion packs (usually for skills not available otherwise) in order for me to download them.

    2. People will, and always have, hated on sims for literally anything because everyone has different opinions and different ideals on what the โ€œperfect Sims gameโ€ is. I remember the uproar when pools and toddlers weren't in the game and I still see simmers, and know people personally that will age up their babies and toddlers because they find them annoying.

    Iโ€™m sure EA is busy with other things, such as their last few expansions and Sims 5, I know for a fact the devs are overworked with an endless crowd of people who seem to hate every move they make, so I honestly would feel horrible if EA did this themselves. But these are just ideas to have for Sims 4 that I personally think would be cool.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @AndyZhang2896, what "babies that aren't objects" means that people want babies that Sims can carry around , like real babies.โค๏ธ  People want babies that they can walk around the living room with, carry up or downstairs, hand off to another Sim, and maybe even take for a walk in a stroller! As babies are now, they are tied to their bassinets.  All interactions are done in front of the bassinets and in fact, to do anything with the baby you don't click on the baby, you click on the bassinet! ๐Ÿคจ

    I understand about not wanting Get to Work because of Aliens.  There are a lot of people who don't like supernatural aspects in their game.  (Although, technically the Sims that are abducted and end up pregnant are really just supposed to be surrogates for the resulting child since the baby ends up being full Alien and not half Alien/half Human.  But still, that isn't exactly comforting either! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ž)  I only mentioned Get to Work because you mentioned that the Sims 4 needed illnesses, and that is the pack that has them.๐Ÿ˜‰. EA probably won't be adding any more illnesses that are like our real-life ones since Get to Work already has them.โ˜น๏ธ  (The exception is the Rabid Rodent illness that comes with My First Pets Stuff Pack, but that is more of a big event, and not at all like the illnesses in Get to Work.  )

    Funny, I never press "M" to travel!  I always use the scroll wheel on my mouse to widen the view until the travel symbol shows up and then click on that! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ  I totally forgot that we could use "M"!๐Ÿ˜ณ

    EA has stated that TS4 will not get an open world.  It was built on a totally different engine than TS3 was.  I think it would take so much work that they would just have completely redo the game,๐Ÿ˜ž   in which case they might as well create The Sims 5! ๐Ÿคจ  So, sadly I don't think you would end up liking the cars they would add if they ever add them to the game.  ๐Ÿ˜ข  I don't mind the loading screens since they only take 30 seconds to 2 miniutes at the most.  The open world of TS3 caused the game to go so slow that it would eventually grind to a complete stop! ๐Ÿ˜ ๐Ÿ˜ž  It would take 10 or more miniutes for the game to unfreeze, but sometimes it would be permanently stuck unless I shut down the game and rebooted.... which would take another 15 -30 min to shut down and then another 20 minutes (at least) to start up again, and then the game would still be incredibly laggy! ๐Ÿ˜ฌ  So maybe, after all that , my Sims would reach their destination an hour later in real life, as opposed to the 2 minutes maximum that it takes in TS4! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ  If we have to go through this again then I don't want an open world.  An open world is pointless if we cant' play the game! ๐Ÿ˜ž  They say that due to our computers being better today than they were when TS3 was the current game, that TS3 runs better than it ever did back when it was the current Sims version.  If that is the case then that would be OK!๐Ÿ™‚  But that still doesn't' solve the problem of TS3 having a bunch of lots with no Sims on them.  I would always try to send my Sims out to a park or some other venue, but no other Sims would be on the lot by the time I got there and they would usually never show up!โ˜น๏ธ  They all were elsewhere in the giant open world. ๐Ÿ˜• At least with TS4 when my Sims go to a venue there are always other Sims there, or they arrive almost immediately after my Sims get there! :eahigh_file:

    Yes! You are correct in that TS3 Island Paradise EP had resorts you could vacation at or even own!๐Ÿฅณ  But it took soooooo long for the Island Paradise to load (one of the few times you would find a loading screen while playing TS3) that I usually didn't have my Sims travel there too often! ๐Ÿ˜ข

    TS2 was by far the best version of the Sims for playability and gameplay! โค๏ธ๐Ÿฅณ TS3 had a lot of fantastic ideas, but they didn't work , or if they did work , the game itself didn't work!  The gameplay in TS2 was deep.  I would play for hours and hours and never get bored.  TS3 I just yelled at all the time.  TS4 is somewhere in the middle.  TS1 was so different, since your Sims didn't age.  It was static, but very charming! โค๏ธ

    Thanks for the video! ๐Ÿ˜‡  While I did read about there probably being a surprise on TS4's anniversary, I hadn't seen this video, and I'm sure other people reading your post hadn't heard the news! :eahigh_file:

    I agree with your assessment on spiral stairs.  If we interpret what Sim Guru Romeo stated correctly, then I think that spiral stairs will be introduced in a patch before Realm of Magic is released, and that Realm of Magic will have a more "magical" looking version. ๐Ÿ˜‰  This is what they usually do with new features like this.  They did similar things with Gardening in the patch right before Seasons, and with the glass roofs as well! โค๏ธ  I can't see them only having spiral stairs in Realm of Magic , since they know that some players won't buy it due to its theme, much like yourself! 

    And don't worry!  I would never have known you weren't' a native English speaker if you hadn't mentioned it!  You write in English better than many native English speakers! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜‡

    Happy Simming! ๐Ÿฅณ

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    Sashas0nic
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago

    @MsSamLStory  glad you're enjoying it!  I would be totally lost without the mods I do use,  must admit and it's usually a quick process to check at update time, unless its an unusually large update. 

    Totally agree with the mods being connected to packs,  pretty standard for many of them.. in fact mamy mods are pack specific, including cc for different packs.  Was about to try out the mod for "seasons/weather" everywhere,  for Sulani also, as may be fun. 

  • A lot of people on the sims group would like to have a farm pakkage for the sims 4.

    With:

    -farming,

    -milking cows,

    -collect eggs,

    -horseriding,

    -sheep's for wool and

    -barns.

    And maybe also things you can do with the wool, spinning the wool and make your own clothes. Making cheese and butter with the milk. Plowing your land with a tractor or a workinghorse. Bigger plots to harvest more vegetables or potatoes. 

  • @PugLove888 There are simmers who would take that 100% seriously. I've seen simmers rage about how we need to spam EA and force them to give us this and that. I think that wave of reasoning is over aggressive and a bit egotistical. But that's just me
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    Psychotps
    Seasoned Ace
    6 years ago
    @MonkeyButts99 That's about right. When I was programming and designing websites, if someone was THAT aggressive about what they wanted, it just reinforced my desire to NOT do it that way.

    The best thing is for everyone to make their desires known and not be so annoying about it.

    Like Pug stated, there are reasons they did things the way they did. The whole open-world/non-open world thing is 100% correct.

    Making the entire world open is what caused the majority of Sims 3 problems. They desired to correct it in the next game, but I do think they took it too far. Closing it off THAT much and taking it almost all the way back to a Sims 1 state is WAY too far.
  • @PugLove888 Woah, thats true! I just remember it lol. That will be a nice update, a lot of people ask that in the comment section of the Youtube video I attached before. But so far, it doesn't annoy me so much and that isn't on my top wishlist tho.

    Get to Work seems like a very nice expansion pack with the active career. Some Build/Buy objects also quite interesting. But an Alien that can pregnant a sims is a biggest NOPE ๐Ÿ˜‚. I do hope there's an option to turn off/on supernatural things.

    Yeah, major things like making TS4 become open world is impossible now. There's too much to do. And by making it open world, developers need to model every single things in the world, mountains, terrains, apartment in San Myshuno, all those 2D images need to be 3D object in open world. And I can't imagine how laggy it is with so many apartment.

    To avoid lag, developer are forced to make the city less crowded, less skycrapper and that means, less beautiful and vibrant the San Myshuno become.

    Oh, I will still be happy with cars even it can't be driven around like TS3. One thing I LOVE in this game is building! I enjoy building so much. I will be very glad to add some cars to my build. I hate using toy cars and resize it bigger because toy cars object are less detailed and making it bigger just like making it worse.

    Wow! 30 seconds to 2 minutes seems long. Mine only 10-15 seconds loading screen. But if I open Gallery too many times, later the game can't be closed and it will require force shutdown.

    Don't get me wrong lol ๐Ÿ˜‚. While I hate occult/supernatural so much, I'm okay with mermaid and magic-themed. It's funny that I believe in life exist outside this planet, But I hate to see alien in The Sims game, I think the biggest turn off is alien can kidnap and pregnant other sims. I also hate Vampire because I heard they may show up in your door and try to convert you (not sure what they mean, convert to vampire?).

    As long as alien & vampire didn't show up outside their world (Sixam & Forgotten Hollow), wizard & witches didn't mess other worlds, I'm okay with it.

    Why my reply marked as spam ๐Ÿ˜ž

    It's nice to discuss with you.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @speemarieke, yes!  I would love all those things in my game :eahigh_file:. I forgot about making cheese though, so thanks for mentioning it! โค๏ธ  And with spinning your own wool from sheep you could then weave it or knit or crochet with it!   I mostly crochet, but I do knit and do a bit of decorative weaving on a small loom!  I need a different type of loom to weave for clothing!  And one of my friends spins her own yarn with wool and other fibers she buys online!  Her spinning wheel is even portable! ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    I was thinking that if they make a farm pack they could add some weather types for people who have Seasons: drought, flood, and hail storm!  There could also be insect infestations (like grasshopper or locust plagues!)  You could choose to either have an organic farm or one that uses modern chemicals.  etc. 

    @MonkeyButts99 Yes, I was afraid that people would take a call to spam EA or the Sims community seriously, which is why I asked the Original Poster that saying that wasn't a good idea.  They didn't mean anything sinister by it -- they were just exaggerating in a funny manner, but didn't' realize that someone might take it seriously.  ๐Ÿ˜ž๐Ÿคญ  

    @Psychotpsand @AndyZhang2896 , I think a lot of newcomers to TS4 might be confused as to why TS4 did things so differently than TS3. In some cases they might not even know that TS3 had some of the features that they are asking for.  That is why I try my best to explain such things.  I feel like a broken record because I keep saying the same thing over and over, but I feel that it is important enough to explain, so I keep explaining! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

    I think that TS4 struck a good balance between the totally closed world of TS2 and the totally open world of TS3.  The only thing that I personally wish they would change is that if you are in a neighborhood like one of the ones in Willow Creek, for example, you should still be able to visit all your neighbors in that little area of Willow Creek that you can roam around in without having to go to a loading screen.  Not that the loading screen takes long, it is just that it seems silly to have to access one in order to go next door. ๐Ÿ˜‰  I think that might be more along the lines of what you were talking about, @Psychotps ๐Ÿ˜‡

    @AndyZhang2896, yes building in TS4 is easier than it was in TS3! :eahigh_file:  I just wish we could make split-level houses and have more staircase types.. Even if we get spiral stairs next month, we still will need L-shaped and switchback (U-shaped) stairs! A great many real-life houses have L and U shaped stairs so we need them in the game.  I would also love ladders, but that isn't as important (but if we get a farm pack, barns would need ladders for the hay lofts.... ๐Ÿค”... hmmm! ๐Ÿ˜‡

    It usually doesn't take me 2 minutes for a loading screen in TS4.  But it did once so I included that as a maximum time!  The one time it took that long was my fault since I had a bunch of internet tabs open in my browser which slowed my computer down.  ๐Ÿคญ  After that, I close them down and haven't had any problems! :eahigh_file:  Yours also doesn't take as long as 30seconds because you don't have all the packs loaded.  ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Yes, the Aliens kidnap you, but they don't breed with you โ€ฆ it is really just a surgical implantation of an Alien baby.. Still invasive, but in a different way.  Of course, since we can't accompany our Sim on the spaceship, for all we know they could agree to such an experiment.  ๐Ÿคจ  

    Vampires in the game don't show up on your door to "convert" you.  They will only do that if you ask them to! And yes, that means convert into another vampire.  But Vampires in the game do show up at your door, but they only want to drink your blood for a meal, they never turn you into one of them.  So if a Vampire shows up at my Sims door, I don't let them in!   They do occasionally break in where they drink form your Sim when they are asleep, but they have cut the number of these break ins down a lot! It is much rarer than it used to be! ๐Ÿ™‚

    I have no idea why your reply was marked as spam.  I didn't do it! Either someone thought your reply was spam, or they accidentally reported it.โ˜น๏ธ 

    Nice to discuss with you as well! ๐Ÿฅณ

  • @PugLove888 Yeah, it's kinda silly when it requires loading when visiting another lot in the same neighborhood. It's just too much loading. Since the open world is impossible now, I hope at least they remove loading screen in the neighborhood. I realize how silly it is when my sims live at Bargain End, get loading screen when visiting Garden Essence (Summer Holiday's house).

    I'm creating a Restaurant right now, I wonder if this is what you mean by 'split level'?

    Maybe you already know this foundation trick to split level. And yeah, this one isn't flexible. It's impossible to put 2 rooms with different height side by side, there should be at least 1 tiles apart. I'm sure what everyone wants, including me, is able to put it close together.

    I open twitter this afternoon and Sim Guru Frost has announced we will get new CAS & Build Buy items! I wish spiral staircase is included, even some say no spiral stair in this update ๐Ÿ˜ž

    Yeah, I also want to have L-shaped, U-shaped, and half-circle staircase.

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    PugLove888
    Hero (Retired)
    6 years ago

    @AndyZhang2896, yes that is similar to what I mean by split-level!  The split levels I'm talking about are more like a half-story up or down, often built into the side of a hill.  While the picture you showed is more like a sunken area, it is still a step in the right direction! ๐Ÿ™‚  I have several of these in my Library that I downloaded from the Gallery. ๐Ÿ˜Ž

    As for the update, we only have to wait a few more days. And just because some say they doubt there will be spiral stairs , doesn't mean they are right!  He said CAS and Build/Buy Mods objects, which staircases are part of !  When asked a few days ago about any new stairs, and especially spiral ones, he didn't say "no" like many Gurus have before (like when Get Famous was released and people asked if we were getting cars with that update or pack).  Instead he acted like my mom always used to if I would try to find out what my birthday present was , and guessed correctly. :eahigh_file: Yes, I could be wrong, but I would think if we were not getting them he would have just said no! ๐Ÿ˜‰