Re: Moving to University Sells Home Lot Furniture Without Consent

@crinrict I just tested it in an unmodded save. Still happened. Everything in the house was sold even though I know for a fact that I did not tick the "sell furniture" box. Putting everything in the household inventory doesn't help either. It still gets sold.

@The_Ratticator  Just curious but was that the only sim in the household when you moved to university?  I'm guessing that it probably was.

One of the things about moving into a lot with the university housing venue lot type is that there is no family inventory while you are there.  You don't have open access to build/buy either on that venue type.  If you use the bb.enablefreebuild cheat, you can get to build/buy but there is no family inventory at all.

@CGrant56 Yes, they were the only Sim in the house. However, prior to the latest patch, I've sent Sims who were the only one in the house to university without issue. Their home furniture was never sold, because I didn't tick that box. It's also not just household inventory being sold. It's all of the furniture in the house. This is definitely a new problem that wasn't happening prior to the latest patch.

@The_Ratticator  Ok, now that does sound strange.  I had it happen to me too but it was day before the last patch and the furniture, etc. got sold but stayed in the house like it always had but I lost everything in the family inventory because that got sold too. 

So am I getting this right?  Since the patch, when you moved the last sim to university, the furniture also disappears from the lot they came from just like it would when you chose to have all of your belongings come with you when you move a sim from one residential lot to another???

@CGrant56 Yeah, that's right. Whenever I send a Sim to university, when they arrive, they get loads of Simoleons added to their funds. Sure enough, if I go to Manage Worlds and check their home, all of the furniture will be gone. I made absolutely sure that I did not tick the "sell furniture" box. It really is just like if you had chosen to sell your Sim's furniture when moving. I tested this on an unmodded save, and it still happened.

@The_Ratticator  Ok, just thought of something.  In a normal move or merging two families on separate lots, if you want the furniture, etc. to stay, you have to click the sell furniture button.  If you click the other one, all the furniture, etc. ends up in your family inventory.  I can't begin to tell you how many times I've ended up with empty lots and tons of stuff to sell out of a family inventory because I clicked the wrong one when I moved some sims.

So in the case of moving the last sim to university, I think you should be clicking the sell button so maybe not ticking it is the wrong thing to do as there is no family inventory.  But I can't recall atm if there was even a button to do that when I moved my sim to university.

@CGrant56 I might have to try that sometime and see if it works. If it does, then that is some seriously bad design. You'd never guess that you would have to tick a box for selling furniture if you wanted to keep the furniture. So either this is bad design, or a bug. I think a bug is just as likely, though, because this wasn't a problem prior to the latest patch.

@The_Ratticator   I don't think it's really a bug.  I think it's by design because there is no place to keep the stuff from your last house since you don't have a family inventory for it to be stored in that particular venue.  You can't keep it.  The furniture and other stuff has to be sold and left behind when it's the last sim in the household moving out to university because of the lack of a family inventory.  What gets me is that they left a button that creates the problem if you don't click on it or have the box checked or whatever.  So if you try to keep it by not ticking the box, you end up with an empty lot and the furniture and whatnot disappears into cyberspace somewhere.  Just wow.  I am just going to start my test game to see this one tomorrow.

Well, I can see one workaround anyway.  Just move another sim into the house before sending your sim to university to hold down the fort until your sim graduates and can be sent back to his original house.   Plus, that'll give you a place to send him when the term ends and the game makes you move your sim out if you don't want to reenroll immediately.  Found that one yesterday when I ended my first term in a dorm with the University Housing venue type.  

It would be nice if we could get a comment from a Guru on this. Because I could swear this never happened before.

@crinrict The more you elaborate, the more I realize this is leaning on feedback. It sounds to me like not-ideal design, rather than a bug. I think you can delete this thread. I'll put a new one up in the feedback forum.

@The_Ratticator I'll move this one to General Discussion.

EDIT: And done. 

@The_Ratticator, @crinrict , and @CGrant56 , from the release of DU, I have had any single Sim that goes to University and live on campus  have his or her house and all furniture sold.  I was not expecting this, as I was just expecting the house and its contents to remain idle while my Sim was away.  I think this is intentional by the developers, but I agree that it is undesirable! 😢  I think @CGrant56 has a wonderful  idea of moving in another Sim to hold you Sim's belongings in that house so you can move back in after graduation (and move out the other Sim if you want).🙌  I started doing this with the Sim I have now in DU, but they are still in school at the moment! 😉

Thanks for the move, @crinrict! As I was saying, I definitely think this is a bad design. It's so odd that I legitimately thought that it must be a bug. Apparently not, though. This mechanic is not kind toward Sims who are the only one in their house. I really don't want to have to re-buy all their furniture once they get back from university. And honestly, most of the time? They probably won't even have enough Simoleons to buy back all of their furniture by the time they graduate. It'd be great if there could be some way to have their home furniture remain on the lot while they're at university.

@The_Ratticator, like Crinrict said , if the furniture is in your inventory you can either place it when you graduate or sell it.  Mine was sold with the house , but that gave me enough money not only during university, but afterwards , so I had enough to buy a place upon graduation. 
Also, with one Sim I had enough scholarships that my tuition was free!  🙌  

But I agree that it isn't the best situation.😞  Even if I have all my items from the old house and can buy a house afterwards, I now have to decorate a house that I didn't want to decorate. (Sometime I enjoy decorating houses, but other times I just want to play in Live Mode! ).  I wish the house would just sit there and wait for you to graduate, but I guess maybe they designed it this way so our Sims would have the opportunity to pay for things they might need while at university, instead of being tied to an abandoned house. 🤔  But I would have much preferred the option to sell or keep the house and all its contents over having that decision being made for us! ☹️

@PugLove888  I don't know if you've done the new survey yet, if you have, wasn't there a question or something about owning 2nd homes or was that just something I read in a thread on the survey over at the official site where people, including me, were sort of talking about their wish list?  I think it was one of the questions though.  So maybe we might to be able to do it in the future and be retroactive so we can keep a home while a sim goes to university.   Back in my Sim 2 days, Bon Voyage I think it was, gave us that option to own a main home and a vacation home.  From my perspective, I saw more questions that gave me the idea that the devs are seriously considering resurrecting things from Sims 2 more so than from 1 and 3 including a number of the more colorful characters from that series as well as owning 2 homes.  Sorry to get off topic.  

@CGrant56, personally, I don't think it is completely off topic since you are addressing a possible future fix for this problem! 😇

And yes, you are correct (unless we are both wrong! 😃) that the recent survey asked us about our interest in letting our Sims own more than one home!  🙌 And I agree that this might be a solution to our current problem, albeit one that will be at least several months in the future! 😉

Yes, I remember TS2's Bon Voyage! ❤️ I think we could own both a regular home and a vacation home in that pack.  Also, I think we could do the same with TS3's Island Paradise, but that pack slowed down the game so incredibly much, I hardly used the world that came with it. 😞  But I agree that it does seem like they are considering revisiting some aspects of past versions of the Sims, such as running hotels and having likes/dislikes in regards to attraction! 🙌