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You are right that in the wild, wolfpacks usually consist of of a family parents and their offspring up to the age of about tree where they are "encouraged" to leave "home". However it does not apply to Werewolves as they do not live in the wild as a pack based on their own family but brought together in a similar way as wolves in a zoo so hierarchy does play a role here.
Then there is your talk about "sexism". You fail to realize that males for thousands of years was the ones that brought home food, protected their family and so on naturally placed them at the top as the most important individual in the family. That women in the last hundred years have started to bring in food to the family does not change that.
Lastly this is a game and it does not necessarily reflect real life. As you may know in the real world there are no Werewolves or a lot of the other things in the Sims.
- SqueamishNerd4 years agoSeasoned Ace
@jpkarlsen wrote:You are right that in the wild, wolfpacks usually consist of of a family parents and their offspring up to the age of about tree where they are "encouraged" to leave "home". However it does not apply to Werewolves as they do not live in the wild as a pack based on their own family but brought together in a similar way as wolves in a zoo so hierarchy does play a role here.
Sure, werewolf packs in The Sims 4 Werewolves are brought together, they're not formed from a family, but they're brought together by their own free will, they're not put in a zoo.
@jpkarlsen wrote:Then there is your talk about "sexism". You fail to realize that males for thousands of years was the ones that brought home food, protected their family and so on naturally placed them at the top as the most important individual in the family. That women in the last hundred years have started to bring in food to the family does not change that.
When it comes to humans tens of thousands of years ago, they had roles in their tribe (family). Hunters weren't at the top. All people of the tribe had different roles when it came to bringing food, protecting the tribe etc. All roles were important.
In a tribe there were hunters, most of them were men but not all of them. Another group of the tribe were the gatherers, they were equally important since they also brought home food, most of them were women but not all of them. The hunters and the gatherers were equally important, but for different reasons. The hunters brought food with proteins and fats, but they couldn't bring it consistently, because it's hard to hunt. The gatherers brought food with carbohydrates along with some fat and protein (from nuts and such), they could bring the food more consistently but in smaller quantities.
Also, studies of human skeletons from the period of hunter-gather societies have shown that some women hunted and some men gathered. This has been known by anthropologists for almost 50 years by now.
So, to place men over women IS sexist, even if we only look at what humans were like for over 10,000 years ago. Though it's kind of an odd thing to have as an argument of how humans should rank people today, since our current society looks vastly different from our far ancestors' society.
@jpkarlsen wrote:Lastly this is a game and it does not necessarily reflect real life. As you may know in the real world there are no Werewolves or a lot of the other things in the Sims.
The alpha, beta, omega hierarchy in fiction also often depicts werewolves, or other dog-like humanoid creatures, not only humans, so it doesn't matter that this is a game that doesn't reflect real life, because the fiction doesn't reflect real life either.
- jpkarlsen4 years agoHero (Retired)
I did not write that they would be put in a zoo but that their hierarchy would be similar to wolves in a zoo. You can also compare them to a street gang if that makes it easier for you. They also have a strict hierarchy.
You may be right that it was not the hunters that were ranked the highest but instead the warriors but that would not change anything as that would also be the men.
Women did have their role as you write raising the children cooking, gathering and so on. That is also important but was not SEEN as important as the male roles by the society as such. You and I can agree that it should not be like that but the fact is that it was that way. Up through the ages women have been seen as not as important as men even to the extent of being treated as a commodity you could sell for money or influence. It is a sad truth that we even today in some societies still sees this with girls at the age of 12 being married off to much older men. In some parts of Africa one of the more common cause of deaths for girls are childbirth. Why you chose to look at society as it was 10.000 years ago I don't know. We still see it in our more enlightened world in the workplace and elsewhere. I just pointed out that you were not going to change something that has existed for that long overnight.
I am also confused that you claim that having a hierarchy is somehow "homophobic and transphobic".
But I'm glad that you at least realized that the game is a work of fiction.
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