All This Beautiful Landscaping...

"Writin_Reg;c-16474906" wrote:

"jhgkjhgkjh;c-16474767" wrote:
Honestly I have to admit I love all the landscaping. :blush: I love to send my Sims out to take pictures for my buildings. Brindelton Bay is beautiful and the sunsets really exceptional. But I am more a builder than a player. And although I miss some of the TS3 features, I really like that crashes are rare and the game doesn't lag like in TS3.

I never have crashes or lag in Sims 3 (Many of my sims 3 friends can tell you the same thing by the way) - so that obviously was not a problem all simmers got - and does not really help Sims 4's cause for many of us if that is your only reasoning - and not a reason at all to me - then technically we've only lost and not gained a thing by having world building and neighborhood editing taken away.

Just to clarify - I did see many complain of at least lag in Sims 3 - but do not recall many complaints of crashes - but anyway - I do also see just about as many complaints here in Sims 4 of lag, time lag, and freezes - as well - again like in Sims 3 I also do not have those issues in this game either - and you say you do not have the issues either. So that just goes to prove not everyones pc plays the game the same - or as badly or better than you or I do. So for people with issues - well they aren't happy and I am sure they also probably would not agree this game plays better either - because to them it does not.

In fact in both cases I do feel it is more to do with the pc being used and less about either game that would explain why some have issues and others don't - in either case it's apparently not the game with an issue - so in that respect wouldn't they be pretty much equal in actual play-ability? I'd have to say yes from my experience.

Exactly this :) It is a pity some of the worlds in 3 weren’t designed properly by the way, but I don’t think anyone would want them to repeat that.

"BeJaWa;c-16475258" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16474906" wrote:

"jhgkjhgkjh;c-16474767" wrote:
Honestly I have to admit I love all the landscaping. :blush: I love to send my Sims out to take pictures for my buildings. Brindelton Bay is beautiful and the sunsets really exceptional. But I am more a builder than a player. And although I miss some of the TS3 features, I really like that crashes are rare and the game doesn't lag like in TS3.

I never have crashes or lag in Sims 3 (Many of my sims 3 friends can tell you the same thing by the way) - so that obviously was not a problem all simmers got - and does not really help Sims 4's cause for many of us if that is your only reasoning - and not a reason at all to me - then technically we've only lost and not gained a thing by having world building and neighborhood editing taken away.

Just to clarify - I did see many complain of at least lag in Sims 3 - but do not recall many complaints of crashes - but anyway - I do also see just about as many complaints here in Sims 4 of lag, time lag, and freezes - as well - again like in Sims 3 I also do not have those issues in this game either - and you say you do not have the issues either. So that just goes to prove not everyones pc plays the game the same - or as badly or better than you or I do. So for people with issues - well they aren't happy and I am sure they also probably would not agree this game plays better either - because to them it does not.

In fact in both cases I do feel it is more to do with the pc being used and less about either game that would explain why some have issues and others don't - in either case it's apparently not the game with an issue - so in that respect wouldn't they be pretty much equal in actual play-ability? I'd have to say yes from my experience.

I got Sims 4 because my saves in 3 were causing the computer to crash in the loading screen. I never had serious lag issues or freezes but I did have my game crash a lot near the end. It was generations that really did it to me, I got that pack last for really cheap right around Sims 4s release, after that my games wouldn't load in.
I always assumed my saves had gotten corrupted somewhere and that's why they were causing crashes on me. I recently reinstalled 3 and am not having any issues at all any more on the same pc, which is the main reason why I think it has to do with my save files not the game. Although I didn't reinstall generations either since I never used the content in it.

Not disagreeing by the way, just something I noticed that tied into the conversation :)

Indeed, saves can get corrupted, disabling you to even open them. That’s why I always save as, in order to being able to return to a previous save (must add I rarely had that happening myself fortunately). I play with all EP’s, can’t say I notice any of them causing trouble. Generations did in the beginning (I think in combination with WA because that’s where the trouble began) but I suppose they fixed that. Sims 3 definitely is a delicate old lady by the way, it’s important to handle her with care. I’m wholeheartedly prepared to pay her that respect for what I get in return ;)

That's the main reason why I never play in Brindleton Bay. I find it so beautiful, yet so boring and empty.

"Writin_Reg;c-16474906" wrote:


I never have crashes or lag in Sims 3 (Many of my sims 3 friends can tell you the same thing by the way) - so that obviously was not a problem all simmers got - and does not really help Sims 4's cause for many of us if that is your only reasoning - and not a reason at all to me - then technically we've only lost and not gained a thing by having world building and neighborhood editing taken away.

Just to clarify - I did see many complain of at least lag in Sims 3 - but do not recall many complaints of crashes - but anyway - I do also see just about as many complaints here in Sims 4 of lag, time lag, and freezes - as well - again like in Sims 3 I also do not have those issues in this game either - and you say you do not have the issues either. So that just goes to prove not everyones pc plays the game the same - or as badly or better than you or I do. So for people with issues - well they aren't happy and I am sure they also probably would not agree this game plays better either - because to them it does not.

In fact in both cases I do feel it is more to do with the pc being used and less about either game that would explain why some have issues and others don't - in either case it's apparently not the game with an issue - so in that respect wouldn't they be pretty much equal in actual play-ability? I'd have to say yes from my experience.

I do recall complaints about crashes in TS3, especially when Island Paradise came out.
Although I had a really really high end gaming pc back then, TS3 with all the expansion packs still was hard to handle. I had a lot of crashes and the game lagged a lot near the end with the "future expansion". I felt the game was really high maintenance due to corrupted saves I had do erase manually and I installed the game more than once with all expansions. *sigh* Still I loved TS3 for what it was and I do miss some features, but I don't want to go back.

TS4 doesn't seem work for some people either, but still it is game that doesn't seem to need a lot of resources like TS3. I play it with my normal "working" computer (not on ultra but on high graphic settings) and it works fine for me (and for most of the people I know).
Yes, there are bugs and issues but there are lots of features I really like about TS4. One part is the surroundings and the neighborhoods. This is the first time in a Sims game I actually send a Sim to stroll around town like San Myshuno or Brindelton Bay to admire the landscaping or the city life. Never felt like this in Bridgeport. Although I loved how big it was, it still took the Sim forever to go somewhere to use an elevator or the subway...
Maybe a new expansion will give us more to do with all the landscaping, but until then I simply enjoy it.

"jhgkjhgkjh;c-16475890" wrote:

"Writin_Reg;c-16474906" wrote:


I never have crashes or lag in Sims 3 (Many of my sims 3 friends can tell you the same thing by the way) - so that obviously was not a problem all simmers got - and does not really help Sims 4's cause for many of us if that is your only reasoning - and not a reason at all to me - then technically we've only lost and not gained a thing by having world building and neighborhood editing taken away.

Just to clarify - I did see many complain of at least lag in Sims 3 - but do not recall many complaints of crashes - but anyway - I do also see just about as many complaints here in Sims 4 of lag, time lag, and freezes - as well - again like in Sims 3 I also do not have those issues in this game either - and you say you do not have the issues either. So that just goes to prove not everyones pc plays the game the same - or as badly or better than you or I do. So for people with issues - well they aren't happy and I am sure they also probably would not agree this game plays better either - because to them it does not.

In fact in both cases I do feel it is more to do with the pc being used and less about either game that would explain why some have issues and others don't - in either case it's apparently not the game with an issue - so in that respect wouldn't they be pretty much equal in actual play-ability? I'd have to say yes from my experience.

I do recall complaints about crashes in TS3, especially when Island Paradise came out.
Although I had a really really high end gaming pc back then, TS3 with all the expansion packs still was hard to handle. I had a lot of crashes and the game lagged a lot near the end with the "future expansion". I felt the game was really high maintenance due to corrupted saves I had do erase manually and I installed the game more than once with all expansions. *sigh* Still I loved TS3 for what it was and I do miss some features, but I don't want to go back.

TS4 doesn't seem work for some people either, but still it is game that doesn't seem to need a lot of resources like TS3. I play it with my normal "working" computer (not on ultra but on high graphic settings) and it works fine for me (and for most of the people I know).
Yes, there are bugs and issues but there are lots of features I really like about TS4. One part is the surroundings and the neighborhoods. This is the first time in a Sims game I actually send a Sim to stroll around town like San Myshuno or Brindelton Bay to admire the landscaping or the city life. Never felt like this in Bridgeport. Although I loved how big it was, it still took the Sim forever to go somewhere to use an elevator or the subway...
Maybe a new expansion will give us more to do with all the landscaping, but until then I simply enjoy it.

I had Sims 3 for a few weeks on a low end computer (at that time), before getting a better comp, but I kept pushing it and putting up with crashes because it was so much fun to play. Now I have an extreme gaming computer and Sims 4 barely holds enough interest to warrant having it on my computer at all.

"cactusjuice;c-16445600" wrote:
All static window dressing to hide how very little is actually playable. To me it taunts us about how great Sims 3's open world could have been made even greater, if only they knew what they were doing in the first place

taunting...

Yes, that's a very apt description. All icing, no cake.

I wish we could ride the boats and trolleys to other parts of Willow Creek. I wish that the hidden areas had more explorable space. I wish the neighborhoods in each town were bigger and had more lots. TS2 was light on the exploration, but our neighborhoods were so big and customizable that it didn't matter too much (I mean, you could fill your whole town with huge lots if you wanted, so it never felt cramped...and you could actually make your own town, so it never got stale). The tiny worlds and lack of interconnectedness or customizability to make up for the size of the worlds kind of holds this game back in the environmental department. It's too tiny to be open world, it's too restrictive and standardized to work as well as TS2's neighborhoods did. Just another example of how TS4 is a game that could have been so much better if it weren't for its serious identity crisis...

From my understanding when reading the release was that the Sims 4 is running on a different engine than it's predecessors so my guess is that the fake back drops could be for what is yet to come but still it would have been nice to be able to have a sim set up a beach house or go snorkeling off the coast of the island of Brindleton Bay.

"Brexoxo;c-16477976" wrote:
My Sims 4 game on my MAC is lagging, yet it isnt lagging on the laptop l have with WINDOWS. I have the exact same CC and mods on both laptops, yet WINDOWS doesnt lag, but MAC does. Does anyone have an idea on why this is?

Because windows is better :p :) (jk don't hate on me)

I personally love the landscapes. I also just send out my sims regularly to be out there so I can enjoy it. They do their activities out there most of the time. Yoga, swimming, fishing, collecting jogging with pets, cooking at grills, playing in the playgrounds and being and interacting with the community in the areas that are set up.. or easily bringing them back to my sims house without everyone being grumpy because they are red before they arrive. I have my sims garden, paint, swim and use the hot tubs outside so that I can see the views. It adds life and immersion to look out and see a beautiful extension. I don't make use of the portable stuff as much as I should but my sims regularly carry around guitars. Probably 50% of my sims that I intend on keeping as a main sim has the outdoor trait, because I love looking at it and being outdoors in this version of the sims that much. I do like to switch from hood to hood though for variety.
I didn't enjoy the look of 3 and with sims 2 even though I loved that game at the time.. the views were not good from street level. My sims did not spend all that much time outside. I know I could play it on higher graphics but it would cause stuttering.. so I didn't try. The view was off color and made me think of them going into a mist rather than being in a world. It could have been my computer but even then I spent quite a bit on stuff like that for myself. I'm sure I could have filled it up the spaces but I don't play that way.. and in Sims 2 I wouldn't have been able to see it fully anyway from my sims home area. I like that it's filled up for me.. so I can have my sims just step in and feel like they are actually surrounded by life. I do wish there was some tool to change the scenery ... but I probably wouldn't use it. I'd wait and see who created good working ones then download those if they became available. I just want to play the sims themselves and tell my stories to myself.. the view makes it more "there".
I think if the trade off when they built it was stability... although frankly I don't dwell on that. I don't have too. My game looks great and it runs smooth. I can enjoy my game play in the midst of that beauty.