Can we seriously fix the relationship system. Like now.

If it makes you feel better, I had an extreme glitch once where a son could flirt with his father. I then preceded to kill off the father for various moral reasons.

You're not the only one who feels that way, OP. There are so many of us who have been complaining and, up to now, the issue hasn't been addressed. Hopefully, it will in the future.

Until that time (if it ever comes), I find ways to bypass the issue. Specifically, I micromanage the heck out of the game.

This is the first time in the history of the series that I have felt compelled to do this. For the first time in fifteen years, I run the game with free will turned off. If I don't, something distasteful or disturbing happens. Rather than the game inspiring stories, I basically use the game as a movie set to play out stories of my own. The Sims are attractive and animated, so at least that part works out.

Still, it's unfathomable to me that a game that has historically been about people, connections, and family doesn't recognize much of any of those things at all.

To me it sounds like you're complaining that the game isn't adjusted to suit your modding preferences, rather than anything else. The game may not denote relationships such as 2nd and 3rd cousins etc, but it is not EA's game that is making those sims fall in love, it's the settings on your MCC. I don't have any issue with that, it's your choice, but you're complaining that the mod you've added to augment gameplay is doing something you don't like, and you want to change the game, not the mod? That seems weird to me. I mean, the game might not recognise those relationships automatically, but if you don't have MCC, they're not going to go dating each other unless you make them.

So erm, easy solution is take out MCC. You're asking for the game to change to fit the mod, and that makes no sense.

I agree OP the game needs a family tree like the Sims 2 had. Something so simple could affect the game in such a positive way... I just don't know why this isn't looked into and fixed already.

Second and third cousins can legally marry in most places IRL. It might make for awkward family gatherings in the west, but it wouldn't raise an eyebrow in some places. Even first cousins are considered ideal marriage partners in more than a few non-western cultures. Our cultural preferences are not the norm globally or historically.

Given the sheer number of bugs surrounding relationship status that have finally been fixed, I can't fully support further complicating the code. Sims aren't real people. They are a few lines of code and a series of animations. Please don't break the game in order to track distant relationships. If it can be done without messing things up, I'm more open to it. I still think tracking distant cousins is too far, though. If real people can marry them in California, imaginary characters should be allowed to marry them in a make-believe games.

Issues with mods need to be addressed with the creators of the mods. The game allows, but doesn't officially support mods. Accounting for mod behavior is more than any programmer should be asked to do. The official game code is complex enough. I use and enjoy MCCC, but it will do some wonky things with relationships. Not the game's fault, and there is nothing they can, or should, do about it. If you use mods, you assume the risks.

I would love to have bigger families at least allow 13

"Yubell;d-932250" wrote:
Seriously, please.

I play with MCC and I'm ending up with cousins falling in love with second/thirds and so on because the game doesn't register them as being related to my sim. and again with Great uncles and Aunts why aren't they listed as being related to my sim why can my sim flirt with her great uncle, it's creepy and needs to be changed. because the great uncle ends up having a secret affair with his great niece there is so much wrong with that. The same with step-dad's why aren't they listed as stepdad, why can his stepdaughter flirt with him and possibly end up in a relationship with him. Am I the only one who see's a problem with the system?

It seems like this game only caters to 1-2 generations any further than that and you start to see some crazy plum, I had a family with 18 generations once and it was a mess, combinded with MCC it just turned into everyone in the family having an affair with each other. :neutral: I'd like for more relationship options to be added to the game like Second-third cousins, great Aunt/Uncle/ Step parents to be registered as step parents and not a stranger living in the house, and adopted siblings. That would be cool. :)

ask the people who made the mods. I have no mods or CC in my game and I am not seeing that. There was an issue after one of the patches - that they fixed some time ago, Haven't had issues since. Make sure all your mods and CC are updated to the newest patches - and if you still have an issue - then check with the mod creators. Maxis has no responsibility for mods. You need to keep them up to date to each patch - otherwise they can cause those kind of issues.

That's why I refuse to use mods and CC as I quickly tire of having to constantly take them out, update them, then add them back with every single patch - so I just don't bother until the game is done being developed. LOL.

Also they don't acknowledge cousins after either 2nd or 3 rd cousins as far as I understand because legally they can marry in most places around the world - as far as I know they do acknowledge first cousins. So you will have to police that yourself I guess.

Like you I would not like my sims even slightly related to do that. LOL.

There's an option in the mod that supposed to check family relations before getting them together, but it probably checks the levels it can actually read(?). It might just be your mod thats the culprit. Talk to the creator about it.

Agree with @meubanks. Personally, I don't even know ANY of my second or third cousins or great uncles... so I really don't mind my Sims not knowing their second and third cousins and great great uncles as such either. As meubanks stated, it is legal in most places for second cousins to get married... sometimes, even cousins are allowed to marry. Also agree with others that if you really don't want these Sims to be married to each other, then you have to take out MCCC - I use MCCC and I love it, but I personally have to do a lot of micro-managing with that mod when it marries off a Sim of mine to someone he/she really shouldn't end up with. That's my own responsibility to fix that, as I chose to put that mod in.

I do, however, fully agree with OP on the stepmother/father thing. Yes, please! Stepmothers and fathers are already labelled as such in family trees - where half-siblings are also actually listed as HALF-siblings - so I hope they can make it so that they're also listed like that in relationship panels in the future. Same with step-siblings. :blush: Would love that! Again, though, the fact that there is a romance bar between a stepfather and daughter is not that problematic to me - romance bars can officially only exist between adults anyway so the child would need to be YA for it to even come up, and once they're YA it's not officially illegal for them to fall in love with stepparents. Seriously weird? Sure. But not illegal or anything. Could actually make for an interesting storyline hehe. :#

ETA: Fixed some grammar mistakes real quick.

Shoot - royalty often only allows marriages with 2nd or 3rd cousins through out history and some non-royalty some countries for regular citizens as well to keep their linage pure - I guess. Personally I can not see it - ugh, just the thought is distasteful to me - but my way is not always the worlds way. LOL. Many of my cousins are like brothers and sisters to me - and I could not imagine, nor do I want to, anything beyond that. LOL.