Don't Complain if You Buy The Pack

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17777206" wrote:
The toggle exists.
The toggle to switch off specter visits and avoid paranormal activity is to not assign the house as a haunted house lot type.
If folks can’t use a simple toggle like that (by simply not using the lot type) and still complain, they have a personal issue that needs to be addressed. Perhaps the only solution for them is to quit playing the sims and just live their realistic life, because it can’t get any more realistic than that.

In response to the supernatural avis: I know you can’t tell but my avatar is a 300 year old wizard based on myself as a 300 year old wizard.

Yeah, and we tried to tell people to use garlic to stop vampire break-ins but EA still listened to the complainers.

Instead of using the tools the game gives us, they want EA to stop it altogether.

"IceyJ;c-17777737" wrote:

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17777206" wrote:
The toggle exists.
The toggle to switch off specter visits and avoid paranormal activity is to not assign the house as a haunted house lot type.
If folks can’t use a simple toggle like that (by simply not using the lot type) and still complain, they have a personal issue that needs to be addressed. Perhaps the only solution for them is to quit playing the sims and just live their realistic life, because it can’t get any more realistic than that.

In response to the supernatural avis: I know you can’t tell but my avatar is a 300 year old wizard based on myself as a 300 year old wizard.

Yeah, and we tried to tell people to use garlic to stop vampire break-ins but EA still listened to the complainers.

Instead of using the tools the game gives us, they want EA to stop it altogether.

that's ea's fault for listening and doing what these spoiled players whine for. they're basically saying "the more you whine & the more annoying you get, the more you'll get heard and get away with". so of course what does people do?

"Babykittyjade;c-17777387" wrote:

"elanorbreton;c-17777352" wrote:
Things should never get nerfed after you've paid good money for it.

If EA can't add a toggle of some sort to appease those who need avoidance then it should just be left alone.

I like it when they give us choices. Like how you can select to disallow vampires/solicitors/neighbours by clicking on your front door if you want to - that way, I can have them in some games and avoid them in others. The game should be all about choices.

But it is very annoying when they nerf stuff. Like the murphy bed from Tiny Living. I tried so hard to get a sim killed with that thing lol, never managed it. And then it got nerfed and hardly ever even breaks any more. Except that they didn't need to nerf it because there were already ways in-game you could avoid it - use a different bed, or get your handiness skill up to make it unbreakable. Sigh.

I think we should campaign to get everything put back the way it was! :D :D :D

Oh so they did nerf the murphey bed? I thought we won that fight? I don't use it often.

Yeah realism gets nerfed by purely realistic players too. It's sad. I didn't want that to get nerfed either.

"Babykittyjade;c-17777387" wrote:

"elanorbreton;c-17777352" wrote:
Things should never get nerfed after you've paid good money for it.

If EA can't add a toggle of some sort to appease those who need avoidance then it should just be left alone.

I like it when they give us choices. Like how you can select to disallow vampires/solicitors/neighbours by clicking on your front door if you want to - that way, I can have them in some games and avoid them in others. The game should be all about choices.

But it is very annoying when they nerf stuff. Like the murphy bed from Tiny Living. I tried so hard to get a sim killed with that thing lol, never managed it. And then it got nerfed and hardly ever even breaks any more. Except that they didn't need to nerf it because there were already ways in-game you could avoid it - use a different bed, or get your handiness skill up to make it unbreakable. Sigh.

I think we should campaign to get everything put back the way it was! :D :D :D

Oh so they did nerf the murphey bed? I thought we won that fight? I don't use it often.

It seems deadly to me.
I'm glad I saved before I had my sims use it.

"Babykittyjade;c-17777507" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 I kinda agree with toggles not meaning much because they don't use direct toggles a lot in ts4 but they use discreet toggles! You are still in control!!! As I stated before you could easily not become a 5star celebrity or cheat the start yyou want if you didn't want crazy fans but just a little fame.
You could disguise yourself if you just didn't want ANY attention at all.

You could lock your doors, use garlic and stay away from vampire lore to avoid ALL breakins which wasn't even that frequent in the first place.

You could turn off the weather options. You could upgrade the murphey bed!!
Spellcaster are limited to their realm, so is possessed sims. You could even delete them if u never wanted to see them.

I could go one and on but we have all sorts of toggles that are in game. There is literally no reason or anything to be nerfed ? people just don't seem to want to make use of it. They want it gone completely.

THANK YOU! This is my line of thought right here. If you delete all spellcasters/vampires from your game... guess what? You won't have any spellcasters or vampires wandering around. Yes, the game could still spawn more without mods to stop them, but guess what? You can just delete them again. It's really not that hard. I've even brought this up on a thread before.

Honestly, it just seems like people think the game should be catered to them and them only without any regard to other players and what they want. Or just want all occults nerfed completely out of existence because *whining voice * ThE sImS iS a LiFe SiMuLaToR oCcUlTs ArE sO uNrEaLiStIc.

But meeting someone at 2:00pm and marrying them by 10:00pm is realistic??? Like come on... the Sims is full of quirky things that aren't going to happen in real life and they want to complain about vampires and spellcasters?

"Pamtastic72;c-17777501" wrote:

"bella_goth;c-17777460" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 so you rather not have any toggles cuz people will complain anyways?
perhaps the pack could use more toggles as the ones it got are a bit too generic.

No, @bella_goth, I am saying toggles don’t seem to matter, because people complain about a feature anyway and then the feature gets removed, and I don’t have an issue with people voicing their opinions but I do have an issue with a feature I was looking forward to and paid for getting swiped out of my game in a subsequent patch because those who complain refuse to use the resources available to them to remedy their complaints.

I don’t see how a toggle that expressly disables your sim from dying from weather effects being made available being “too generic” in fact I don’t know how you get more specific. But the complainers wouldn’t use the toggle and now weather related deaths basically no longer exist. Just I don’t see how a toggle expressly exempting your sim from fame is “too generic” either, but as another poster pointed out and they’re correct you can work your way up to a global super star now and receive very little attention in public because again people were given a remedy, no again two remedies/toggles by way of the celebrity disguise in addition to turning fame gain off and it’s still mostly gone.

Personally at this point they should just release the gameplay devs from their employ and just make furniture, clothing, makeup, and accessories. Because there’s no point in having people develop gameplay features that will appear in the game in June only to have them patched out in July or August no matter how many toggles they come with.

Reading through all of these replies, I think I'm in agreement: toggles are worthless. I mean if the options are there and people are still complaining and refuse to use them: introducing more isn't going to solve anything.


To anyone thinking of buying this pack: If you're buying a pack titled Paranormal Stuff, expect there to be ghosts and other mystical things in the pack. Just like you should have known there would be vampires doing vampire things in a pack called Vampires. Or fame & celebrities in GET FAMOUS.

Don't complain about something you know is coming in a pack. Especially when it's the main feature of that pack. If I buy a Farming pack and move my sims onto a farm lot, knowing full well that there's going to be farm chores: I have no right to complain about it being "intrusive" to my gameplay or there being "too much farm stuff." I bought the pack knowing I would be annoyed at the chores, but I did anyway. And guess what? That's on me.

I should just accept that the chores are going to be there, & avoid them by not having my sims live on that lot. NOT complain to the devs that I want it nerfed.

"Pamtastic72;c-17777509" wrote:

"bella_goth;c-17777506" wrote:
@Pamtastic72 i'm not disagreeing with you, i'm saying BEFORE nerfing something how about adding a toggle first, specifically about what people is complaining about & see how they'll react.
i have yet to see occults toggles, which is one of the things people complains the most about.

Well it’s too late for Vampires. They’re basically sims in costumes now, and that pack is a double priced stuff pack. These occult’s in Paranormal come with a toggle in that you have to intentionally set your lot type to Haunted House to trigger the behavior in addition to using some of the objects but I am certain it won’t matter, the dollhouse crowd will complain and then it will all be dialed down to almost zero. Your haunted house will only end up seeming haunted once every three in game years and then only if you force it to.

The great irony to me is that a lot of the same people I see complaining to the point of getting this stuff nerfed are the same ones who make threads complaining the game “lacks depth” or “meaningful gameplay”.

Yeah the same people complain about their computers not being strong enough to support these updates too. I've just accepted there are a few bad eggs that will never be happy and move on. I do agree toggles don't seem to appease them either. I don't think EA should cater to the politically correct people because we have now see the consequences of that happening and it hasn't been good. They need to start representing the underdogs more now rather than just the entitled lifestyles and well with super naturals having real life illness origins, it's a good way to be inclusive. For my Self-Sim I had her as a mermaid because there are some days I don't have use of my legs and have to use a wheelchair, yet I can still swim well.

I wondered why my vampires seemed so normal. ugh The ghosts aren’t scary either. In sims 2 they scared the crap out of me. I loved it! My one sim got scared to death by one. I had a sim almost die from some illness that took me forever to heal and the vampires couldn’t even be near windows. I miss those types of challenges in sims 4 and I absolutely love unicorns and rainbows. lol

"Babykittyjade;c-17777507" wrote:

I could go one and on but we have all sorts of toggles that are in game. There is literally no reason or anything to be nerfed ? people just don't seem to want to make use of it. They want it gone completely.

This one I can agree, it seems they dont really want toggle based on the some of the complain post I see about occult and they rhyme the same even when it came from different poster, something along the lines of "ugh I hate and despise occult so much I dont want it in game" instead of "I dont play with occult, but im happy with those who wanted it"

To be honest, a toggle that turns ALL weather effects off is not the same thing as a toggle for weather related deaths. People who want a toggle to prevent death but not to prevent the uncomfortable moodlet aren't being inconsistent, they are wanting varied difficulty levels.

I am sure people are right that the scared emotion will annoy people if it is actually more intrusive than the tense emotion. Those screaming fits could be really annoying if they happen to sims that you don't think of as cowards. And the game will absolutely make that decision for you- who will have screaming fits versus a less extreme reaction is as random as who will have thassalaphobia(sp?) and who will be upset vs excited about discovering an alien. You will not actually have control over the personality of your sim until you earn the rewards points to change them.

It will in fact be super annoying if some of my vampire sims have the extreme fear reactions, just as it's annoying that the mermaid is afraid of the thunderstorms she calls, or that the sim who grew up in BB by the ocean is now afraid to be in his backyard because when he went to Sulani he developed a fear of the ocean out of nowhere.

To be clear I do not want fear, or phobias, nerfed. I just want a way to actually impact which of my sims will have these reactions, straight out of CAS without having to earn rewards points to change them.

It would just be nice if the personality still had spectrums like in Sims 2 and if they could include things like fears occults vs loves occults and cowardly versus brave up front instead of costing either a trait slot or rewards points to actually create the sim with the personality you want instead of half the decisions being made by the game since you only have three traits to choose.

Anyway, all that said, anyone who uses the haunted lot type and then complains about it should be ignored. People who already have a toggle to avoid exactly what they want to avoid should use it. The fact that some people complain even when there is a toggle is not an argument against toggles. Some people will complain about everything and anything. But fewer will complain when they are given choices than when they are not.

"BlkBarbiegal;c-17777781" wrote:
I wondered why my vampires seemed so normal. ugh The ghosts aren’t scary either. In sims 2 they scared the ❤️❤️❤️❤️ out of me. I loved it! My one sim got scared to death by one. I had a sim almost die from some illness that took me forever to heal and the vampires couldn’t even be near windows. I miss those types of challenges in sims 4 and I absolutely love unicorns and rainbows. lol

I hope Paranormal stuff has some scary sound effects because it was the TS2 ghostly sounds that scared me. :)