Is eco footprint actually working for anyone?

It isn't working for me too. I wanted to have an industrial neighbourhood per town but it just goes back to neutral very quickly. It was one of the features i was more excited about... EL came out to be disapointing, at least until they fix it, if they fix it...

Started a new save and it works good so far. It has stayed a perfect green several days and no flipping back and forth.

Haven’t lived on an industrial lot so no info on that.

I'm not sure if it's working or not because I'm not sure how it's supposed to work? I had assumed once I attained a footprint, without changing things, it would stay that way. It seems tuned to keep on sliding though. During one sim day I can get a notification saying it's green, neutral then green again. I feel like that's wrong... I get it that fast for industrial too.

I get that it's tuned to slide, or else we would never be able to change it, but I don't know why it needs to keep pulling back? It should pull back when I start to make changes going the other way? I could see it if say I have 4 lots in the neighbourhood and 2 are industrial and 2 are green that it would pull back and forth. But if I have them all green or all industrial, it shouldn't be pulling back? Unless I'm missing something in my builds/actions that is causing the pull still?

This might be the intention since it's been almost 2 months and there's not been a fix for it. (Again assuming) I'd assume that a major selling feature of a pack and probably the #1 thing about this pack that changes the overall game: you'd want that to be working as intended from launch, if not very soon after and we've had 2 patches since. There should be another patch before knitting launches though, so I think if I don't see a fix then, I'm going to assume this crazy back and forth sliding is intended.

"Camkat;c-17580922" wrote:
I'm not sure if it's working or not because I'm not sure how it's supposed to work? I had assumed once I attained a footprint, without changing things, it would stay that way. It seems tuned to keep on sliding though. During one sim day I can get a notification saying it's green, neutral then green again. I feel like that's wrong... I get it that fast for industrial too.

I get that it's tuned to slide, or else we would never be able to change it, but I don't know why it needs to keep pulling back? It should pull back when I start to make changes going the other way? I could see it if say I have 4 lots in the neighbourhood and 2 are industrial and 2 are green that it would pull back and forth. But if I have them all green or all industrial, it shouldn't be pulling back? Unless I'm missing something in my builds/actions that is causing the pull still?

This might be the intention since it's been almost 2 months and there's not been a fix for it. (Again assuming) I'd assume that a major selling feature of a pack and probably the #1 thing about this pack that changes the overall game: you'd want that to be working as intended from launch, if not very soon after and we've had 2 patches since. There should be another patch before knitting launches though, so I think if I don't see a fix then, I'm going to assume this crazy back and forth sliding is intended.

More than assuming, we were told by the devs that the toggle in the options menu would pause the eco footprint. This was the exact word they used. Instead of it we got a toggle that disables the footprint. Very different outcome...
Devs are always so carefull when they talk to us, i can't understand why they used such a different way to describe the toggle before the expansion released...

"@telmarina;c-17580926" wrote:

"Camkat;c-17580922" wrote:
I'm not sure if it's working or not because I'm not sure how it's supposed to work? I had assumed once I attained a footprint, without changing things, it would stay that way. It seems tuned to keep on sliding though. During one sim day I can get a notification saying it's green, neutral then green again. I feel like that's wrong... I get it that fast for industrial too.

I get that it's tuned to slide, or else we would never be able to change it, but I don't know why it needs to keep pulling back? It should pull back when I start to make changes going the other way? I could see it if say I have 4 lots in the neighbourhood and 2 are industrial and 2 are green that it would pull back and forth. But if I have them all green or all industrial, it shouldn't be pulling back? Unless I'm missing something in my builds/actions that is causing the pull still?

This might be the intention since it's been almost 2 months and there's not been a fix for it. (Again assuming) I'd assume that a major selling feature of a pack and probably the #1 thing about this pack that changes the overall game: you'd want that to be working as intended from launch, if not very soon after and we've had 2 patches since. There should be another patch before knitting launches though, so I think if I don't see a fix then, I'm going to assume this crazy back and forth sliding is intended.

More than assuming, we were told by the devs that the toggle in the options menu would pause the eco footprint. This was the exact word they used. Instead of it we got a toggle that disables the footprint. Very different outcome...
Devs are always so carefull when they talk to us, i can't understand why they used such a different way to describe the toggle before the expansion released...

Because both trailers received such backlash. It was the safest way to get people to buy.

I think it is working? I can't tell, I played with a sim in Port Promise and their lot is green, and the entire neighborhood changed into green, but then it randomly goes down only for it to go up to green later. I can't tell if it is because the other lots are not green or what's going on there.

I have also no idea how I am going to get the other lots to change into green if I don't want to play the sims who live there, or if it is a community lot where the building takes up all the space. I tried to change a community lot in San Myshuno and I had to stay there for the bar to go up.

It works for me as long as I do not switch households, what for a rotational player is the same as it's not working.
I can achieve eco or industrial footprint with little effort and it mostly stays that way. If the value changes I usually know why (in most cases because I forgot to refuel the generators). But the moment I switch neighborhoods odd things I cannot explain happen in the ones I leave behind.

For example my junkyard has a constant footprint of 500, the maximum possible, and the neighborhood footprint is 445 (400 being the cutoff for industrial). But after playing elswhere I returned to a neighborhood footprint of 175 and it takes several days to go back to industrial. That shouldn't happen in my opinion, neighborhoods we do not play should freeze at exactly the state we left them behind.

"telmarina;c-17580926" wrote:

"Camkat;c-17580922" wrote:
I'm not sure if it's working or not because I'm not sure how it's supposed to work? I had assumed once I attained a footprint, without changing things, it would stay that way. It seems tuned to keep on sliding though. During one sim day I can get a notification saying it's green, neutral then green again. I feel like that's wrong... I get it that fast for industrial too.

I get that it's tuned to slide, or else we would never be able to change it, but I don't know why it needs to keep pulling back? It should pull back when I start to make changes going the other way? I could see it if say I have 4 lots in the neighbourhood and 2 are industrial and 2 are green that it would pull back and forth. But if I have them all green or all industrial, it shouldn't be pulling back? Unless I'm missing something in my builds/actions that is causing the pull still?

This might be the intention since it's been almost 2 months and there's not been a fix for it. (Again assuming) I'd assume that a major selling feature of a pack and probably the #1 thing about this pack that changes the overall game: you'd want that to be working as intended from launch, if not very soon after and we've had 2 patches since. There should be another patch before knitting launches though, so I think if I don't see a fix then, I'm going to assume this crazy back and forth sliding is intended.

More than assuming, we were told by the devs that the toggle in the options menu would pause the eco footprint. This was the exact word they used. Instead of it we got a toggle that disables the footprint. Very different outcome...
Devs are always so carefull when they talk to us, i can't understand why they used such a different way to describe the toggle before the expansion released...

You're absolutely right. The wording is important and this is not what we were "sold". Pausing is completely different than disabling. I would like to pause it, like I was told I could in the live stream.

"telmarina;c-17580926" wrote:


More than assuming, we were told by the devs that the toggle in the options menu would pause the eco footprint. This was the exact word they used. Instead of it we got a toggle that disables the footprint. Very different outcome...
Devs are always so carefull when they talk to us, i can't understand why they used such a different way to describe the toggle before the expansion released...

When you have the Eco footprint gameplay untoggled
https://i.imgur.com/hlFErK2.png
It disables the eco footprint UI and eco stats for B/B and gameplay objects. It does also pauses the eco footprint to wherever it was left off.

I managed to get Forgotten Hollow to an industrial state and as soon as I did, I turned off the toggle. Vampire Magik isnt the only thing in the air and my Sims still got the coof.
https://i.imgur.com/NBJdYNc.png

With this all toggle off, I am able to freely build anyway I want while retaining whatever environment state I desire.

It will remain like that until I turn the toggle back on.

I have a mod installed to keep the eco footprint from changing unless you do something to change it. San Myshuno has been grimy for quite a while now. I’m looking forward to changing it through game play.