I posted a thread similar to this a couple years ago, but it seems like the devs didn't really care...So.....This needs to stop. When I was a kid, I don't recall EVER willingly washing the dishes, taking out the trash, or cleaning of my own free will. My parents would have to train me to do these things.Why do the sim children do these things autonomously? It doesn't make sense. Parents should train their kids to clean, they shouldn't just do it on their own. In the real world, parents clean up after their kids, NOT the other way aroundThis is so annoying and immersion breaking. It also makes the game too easy. Can we please stop having this annoying, unrealistic and immersion breaking autonomous action cancelled?? And yes, I am annoyed by this. I hate having to cancel my kids' actions when they attempt to take out the trash autonomously. I was actually so irritated that I exited out of the game and made this post.Let kids be kids, not MINIATURE ADULTS. THANKS!!!!Edit: And I'm not saying that all kids should be slobs. What I'm saying is that not all kids should autonomously clean, like they currently do in game. The only one who should clean autonomously are kids with the Neat or Proper traits.

Sims should only clean autonomously if they are Neat, perhaps also Proper. Any other trait I can't remember right now...? That also means Vlad won't do your dishes/remove trash when he comes for a midnight snack. Another small example, my sim got a visit from a friend today. Before my sim could start talking, the visitor was headed for the downstairs bathroom. There was a small puddle of water that I missed earlier. They are usually also very quick with cleaning out bad food from the fridge.I think they should tune ALL sims, not just children. The autonomy for cleaning is way too high.Also, not all kids are the same. I loved helping my mother with her housework.

Some kids do clean on their own at times. A rare specimen, yes, but some have associated it with "being an adult." Usually when they are young enough to be really poor at it. I thought it was still somewhat ridiculous myself until I saw the faux cleaning toys. *shrug*More commonly speaking, I certainly tried to clean on my own if I thought I was going to get in trouble. The kid that makes and mess and doesn't try to hide it is the odd one to me.

When I was a child I took out the trash on my free will. From a pool of family chores that was the easiest and fastest task so far, it existed less waste then and it was done in less than 5 minutes. I was not that stupid. I know if I would complain about it, my parents would have given me something else to do, which would definitely have cost more time or has to done more often.

I think this is a you thing lol...some kids are neat. Others are sloppy. All need direction and teaching generally by parents but youre leaving no room for personalities. Besides maybe a toddler wont autoclean but a child would, assuming they've been trained/learned from adults to do so. There isnt gradual aging so at child stage, you should clean up on your own, just not the entire house. Kids do clean. Even a messy cat will lick its own behind ?

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's 'unrealistic' for a child to do their own cleaning or tidying up. Not every kid grew up the same way you did, all kids have a different experience. For example, some kids might do it to try and be 'grown up', it was part of why I tried to help out around the house when I was younger because back then I wanted to be like a grown up and help my family out. Parents don't always clean up after their kids, either; there are plenty of parents who will encourage their children to tidy up now and again where possible, to encourage a sense of responsibility into the child. In fact there are plenty of parents who do very little for their children as well.I'd argue that childhood isn't all just playtime and having fun, learning to be more responsible is just as big a part of growing up as going out to play and such. It makes sense for a kid to possibly try and copy what the parents do without necessarily being 'trained' to do it, trying to be a 'grown up'.It's not necessarily that the devs 'don't care' about the feedback posts. It's a harsh truth, but we must realise as players that we won't always get what we want and that we won't always get noticed when there's so many players talking about what they want from the game. If only a few players have an issue with something it's unlikely any change will be made. All I can suggest is looking for a mod that might disable it for you, or see if you can request someone to make one somewhere possibly.

Kids shouldn't be cleaning autonomously....

Simmingal
Hero
4 years ago
hard disagree. my parents are very slob and i became neat as response to seeing the chaos so its very possible kid might do that on their own without anyone telling them to

but i would like if guests didn't autonomously go clean my house and take care of my trash cause its somehow failing the mood of my fancy parties

and that goes for guest kids as well though its slightly more realistic that ill mannered kid might go do nonsense things in your house

slobs also definitely should never clean after themselves kid or not
fjb792
4 years ago
"Simmingal;c-17943161" wrote:
hard disagree. my parents are very slob and i became neat as response to seeing the chaos so its very possible kid might do that on their own without anyone telling them to

but i would like if guests didn't autonomously go clean my house and take care of my trash cause its somehow failing the mood of my fancy parties

and that goes for guest kids as well though its slightly more realistic that ill mannered kid might go do nonsense things in your house

Wouldn't just adding the Neat trait be an easy fix for that? Cleaning is still something kids need to learn from somewhere, they don't just magically start cleaning.
FatTribble23
New Scout
4 years ago
I do agree with you @bixters. While I was a neat kid who didn't have to be told to clean my room, I didn't and still don't like messiness, I didn't wash dishes or clean the tub unless I was told, though. It's quite unrealistic that all kids clean autonomously. Improving kids is on the top of my wish list for sims 4. Give them more to do, and make them more like kids, dang it!
fjb792
4 years ago
"FatTribble23;c-17943177" wrote:
I do agree with you @bixters. While I was a neat kid who didn't have to be told to clean my room, I didn't and still don't like messiness, I didn't wash dishes or clean the tub unless I was told, though. It's quite unrealistic that all kids clean autonomously. Improving kids is on the top of my wish list for sims 4. Give them more to do, and make them more like kids, dang it!

Thank you :) I'm glad you understood and agree with my post.
I was recently playing in an apartment, and despite having different toys and activities for kids to do, they chose to keep cleaning. It was very annoying. The fact that all kids feel the need to clean is unrealistic.
Kids definitely need more activities to do, because I just get bored playing with them.
MoonlightGraham
New Scout
4 years ago
I wasn't aware that all young Sims cleaned autonomously. I'm a teacher, so I see lots of kids who are about the age my daughter is now. Some are neat, and some are sloppy. Most are somewhere in between. Many won't pick up something they drop, and some have no problem creating messes, either carelessly or deliberately.

I agree that it's not something every Sim child should do. In fact, most shouldn't. Nor should all Adult sims do this. There ought to be a range of behaviors, from Neat Sims who enjoy cleaning to those who actively make messes and leave you to clean them up.
RouenSims
Seasoned Traveler
4 years ago
I like it when my young Sims clean. ?
fjb792
4 years ago
"MoonlightGraham;c-17943188" wrote:
I wasn't aware that all young Sims cleaned autonomously. I'm a teacher, so I see lots of kids who are about the age my daughter is now. Some are neat, and some are sloppy. Most are somewhere in between. Many won't pick up something they drop, and some have no problem creating messes, either carelessly or deliberately.

I agree that it's not something every Sim child should do. In fact, most shouldn't. Nor should all Adult sims do this. There ought to be a range of behaviors, from Neat Sims who enjoy cleaning to those who actively make messes and leave you to clean them up.

Yes, all sims will clean autonomously. (except those with the Slob trait, apparently- haven't tested it myself) I'm not sure if I wasn't clear in my original post.
I think that autonomous actions should be based on their Traits, Likes, and Lifestyles, not because of the game's programming. Right now, all sims are programmed to do cleaning autonomously.
I think only sims with the Proper and Neat traits should clean autonomously.

Seeing all kids in my game autonomously cleaning is especially jarring. Some of them might enjoy cleaning, but others should be playing and doing traditional "kid stuff".
We have the pack Parenthood, which is about parents teaching their kids to be responsible. But, if kids just clean instantly, there's no point to the pack at all.
It just adds to my annoyance with how bereft of content Kids are in the game. They barely have anything to do, and then the game programs them to clean? It totally breaks my immersion.
DarkNation9
4 years ago
I don't have this problem, but I wish I did. Unless I specifically give my Sims the neat or proper traits, they rarely clean up after themselves. Puddle on the floor? Let me whine about it and walk away. Without cleaning it up.

Most of my Sim children are the source of the messes and they never clean it up.

I'd happily trade for cleaner Sim kids.
troshalom
4 years ago
@bixters I disagree - If you have seasons the autonomous cleaning helps them form scout badges.
If you want slobs get parenthood they will sling paint everywhere

Also kids learn from watching as much as someone teaching. So if parents are neat, kids are neat and vice versa.
Babykittyjade
Rising Observer
4 years ago
ALL sims should stop cleaning unless they are neat. Drives me crazy that all sims get up to wash their own dishes after eating and it makes chores useless.
It's not just a child issue. My friends literally go around cleaning my house all day. Let me be a slob in peace lol
I made a post about this before but no one seemed to think it was a problem....
And yes I tried mods. Doesn't work. I tried atleast 3 different ones and they still get up to do their own dishes.