This has been something that's been kind of bugging me since launch.Can we get a normal sized telescope and microscope at any point? Or an adult chemistry table for non-scientists?It's just cumbersome to only have comically large variants of these objects because there's just not enough space in normal homes for them and they look out of place in so many builds.Also, it's a bit weird to have a chess table in every household where logic is needed, so can we have computer chess back?I know we can already read skill books for everything, but that's usually too slow compared to using a skill object/not as entertaining. And the chemical analyzer/chemistry lab are more career specific than something any ordinary person would have.

As far as the household-ownership bit goes, I converted the Oasis Springs museum into a Science Center where Sims can go to use the microscope and telescope. There are chess tables in all the parks. Smaller things like this would be great, though, along with something like doing Sudoku on a computer.

You can also gain logic from the easel, by drawing mathematical diagrams... but you have to be in a focused mood to start them. You can get a focused mood easily enough by studying a fossil though.

It's easy, just do crossword puzzles in the newpaper. >:)

As impressive as the game's microscope and observatory are, I really miss the tabletop microscope and tripod telescope. And their considerably more-affordable pricing.Perhaps we could add "normal" versions, and use them for observation (to raise logic and perhaps trigger "discovery" things like finding new stars and planets in TS2 did), but restrict the slides/photo plates (for the relevant Collections) to the larger models, with the explanation that they have the added hardware to analyze things and produce such prints. This would keep relevance to the larger versions, while offering the smaller ones for budget-minded non-collectors who just want to raise logic.

"SuperCoolRachael;14892721" wrote:I agree. A microscope the size of my entire kitchen? Really?I think they were trying to be funny with the oversized things. I don't want funny, I'm not five. I've done everything I can to tone down the childish things in the game with CC.

More realistic and affordable ways to learn the logic skill?

luthienrising
Hero+
9 years ago
As far as the household-ownership bit goes, I converted the Oasis Springs museum into a Science Center where Sims can go to use the microscope and telescope. There are chess tables in all the parks. Smaller things like this would be great, though, along with something like doing Sudoku on a computer.
Hermitgirl
New Spectator
9 years ago
You can also gain logic from the easel, by drawing mathematical diagrams... but you have to be in a focused mood to start them. You can get a focused mood easily enough by studying a fossil though.
SHODAN001
9 years ago
It's easy, just do crossword puzzles in the newpaper.

>:)
Duke_Darkwood
9 years ago
As impressive as the game's microscope and observatory are, I really miss the tabletop microscope and tripod telescope. And their considerably more-affordable pricing.

Perhaps we could add "normal" versions, and use them for observation (to raise logic and perhaps trigger "discovery" things like finding new stars and planets in TS2 did), but restrict the slides/photo plates (for the relevant Collections) to the larger models, with the explanation that they have the added hardware to analyze things and produce such prints. This would keep relevance to the larger versions, while offering the smaller ones for budget-minded non-collectors who just want to raise logic.
catitude5
9 years ago
"SuperCoolRachael;14892721" wrote:
I agree. A microscope the size of my entire kitchen? Really?

I think they were trying to be funny with the oversized things. I don't want funny, I'm not five. I've done everything I can to tone down the childish things in the game with CC.
strangeseraph
9 years ago
This is also my complaint with having to have the pirate ship or space ship in every single park. Whats wrong with just monkey bars for kids to play on? Introduce a slide and a sand box and some swings. Or the type of jungle gym that actually looks like the ones in real life. The ones we have look nothing like every day ordinary kids jungle gyms around here.
luthienrising
Hero+
9 years ago
"strangeseraph;14897383" wrote:
This is also my complaint with having to have the pirate ship or space ship in every single park. Whats wrong with just monkey bars for kids to play on? Introduce a slide and a sand box and some swings. Or the type of jungle gym that actually looks like the ones in real life. The ones we have look nothing like every day ordinary kids jungle gyms around here.

A tip: You can hide things on a lot and it will still get the lot type. I've got one small park lot where I buried the pirate ship in an inaccessible underground bunker.
Cinebar
7 years ago
Considering the pc is used for just about everything in TS4, why not add Brain Games to the list of things to do online for the Sims? They could play those games and gain some logic. I would prefer objects in the games instead of more menus on the pc in TS4, but it's an idea.
universae117
7 years ago
I'd love to see some more realistic versions of other items in game.
I only play the base game atm on console but i enjoy playing a more realistic approach, and the stupidly large items spoil the game....I mean i dont mind paying 1500 for a telescope, but its stupidly huge!

Needs to be alot more versions of items in the game.
PockyRulez
New Spectator
7 years ago
"Terra;c-16254702" wrote:
@Sim2Spore - What mod do you use to deal with the inefficient handling of the needs of Sims at home? :open_mouth:

I use Little Ms Sam's More Away Actions because it allows you to tell sims specifically which needs to raise, which skills to build, and to do homework.