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"JoAnne65;c-17001546" wrote:

The very fact Sims 3 is so much more open and added so much different, diverse stuff, makes it way more in depth and adds numerous different things to do. Because it tickles our imagination and there's nothing deeper than that. Joining the forums here broadened my view on this, because I met simmers who were doing things in their games that never even had occurred to me. I don't think Sims 4 offers that, because the gameplay is so scripted and one dimensional. The developers came up with a plan and we play it. And each and every simmer has no choice but playing the very same game.

I completely disagree with this entire statement. Depth is subjective, I find the Sims 4 packs to have an enormous amount more depth than Sims 3 packs ever had. Sure Sims 3 has a lot of stuff, but in the long run, a lot of this stuff never proved completely useful in my normal game play, it would be stuff that I play around with time to time, but nothing that ever really expanded my game play as a whole. Sims 4 however offers game play features and tools that have completely changed and expanded my normal game play, the club system, lot traits, better cats and dogs (in my opinion), a calendar/holiday system, and now a celebrity and reputation system, all these, and some other features that I haven't mentioned, are features and tools that I use in my game play every single time I play, and I find it difficult to play without these features whenever I go back to playing Sims 3. Very few expansion packs from Sims 3 changed my game the way almost every single expansion pack from Sims 4 has (so far), and that's probably just because of how I play my game.

I'm not trying to say that you're wrong for thinking Sims 3 is better and has more depth, but I'm not wrong either for thinking Sims 4 is better and has more depth. It really is just a matter of perspective.

They really shouldn't use The Sims 3 as their base.

I remember very well how The Sims 3 was in fact very disappointing in a lot of aspects, its attraction system was not near as good as The Sims 2's, it didn't have apartments at all, just regular lots inside shells from where Sims would come out occasionally, retail? haha it was Store content and it was absoutely barebones, same for restaurants, active careers were also extremely boring, playing generational-style was devoid of any fun whatsoever because there weren't any difference between age groups until Generations and University Life came up.

BUT The Sims 3 had CAST and open world, so yeah, The Sims 3 was a different game than The Sims 2, it was a different experience which The Sims 4 will NEVER provide, the feeling of playing inside an entire city and not just locked to a single lot.

The Sims 4 plays much more like The Sims 2, we are back again to playing a single lot at a time, the experience is back again to being much more local rather than how the sims behave in the entire city, the focus is on the sims themselves, but aside from engine improvements The Sims 4 still lacks an immense number of content that The Sims 2 had, the Sims have no personality whatsoever, they don't have memories, they don't even remember fighting a Sim seconds ago and just proceed to hug each other after an intense argument, they don't have chemistry, every Sim treats each one exactly the same way, there's no drama, there's no fun situations like in The Sims 2, honestly it's kind of sad how the ONLY thing The Sims 4 has to provide over The Sims 2 is technical improvement and an amazing CAS but that's about it.

Now yes, The Sims 4 is improving, largely, now I can actually play Simulation Mode and not want to close the game 10 minutes later, I'm just saying it's useless to say things like "we did X thing better than The Sims 3" when at the end of the day The Sims 4 is just an inferior version of The Sims 2 in many aspects while The Sims 3 will always stand out in its own way to huge features only it can provide.

Oh, and The Sims 3 has cars.

"Sk8rblaze;c-17002993" wrote:
He is considering the countless stuff packs for TS4 as part of that equation -- using the number of DLCs as a basis for the game being "good". I guess it's clear why TS4 is the weaker entry.

That should tell you enough. The Sims 3, love it or hate it, just about had World Adventures, Ambitions, Late Night, Generations, Pets, Showtime, Supernatural, Seasons, University Life, and Island Paradise by now. Many of those packs contained multiple themes from the many TS4 packs all in one expansion.

Edited to remove screenshot of Guru personal twitter. ~Rtas

Always respectful and charming I see. (Not you!)

Considering how many game developers hang out in their game forums engaging with fans, sourcing ideas, even just checking them to get a feel for the player mood. But why do that when you have people that squeal and shriek over colour swatches and stoke your ego...

In some cases sims 4 seems like a bad version of sims 2.I felt in love with the sims because of 3.Sims 3 felt like a sequel to two.They went farther .Sims 3 has open world, control aging, holidays ,honorable pets.What did Sims 4 bring that was revolutionary?

In sims 3 we had playable ghost and they had children.This was partly taken out in four.

Hey folks, just a heads up, let's try not to post screenshots of a Guru's personal twitter. Regardless of their opinion and whether you agree or not, they are entitled to their privacy.

"EA_Rtas;c-17003495" wrote:
Hey folks, just a heads up, let's try not to post screenshots of a Guru's personal twitter. Regardless of their opinion and whether you agree or not, they are entitled to their privacy.

But it isn’t his private twitter account- it’s his official Guru account in which he publically engages with fans. There is a whole thread dedicated to posting these tweets to keep fans updated. For those that don’t use twitter. This is no different.

Also, the person in question INVITED fans to ask questions. He answered. I believe the person in question has an actual personal account with no affiliation to their profession.

"Chazzzy;c-17003522" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17003520" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-17003518" wrote:

"MidnightAura;c-17003516" wrote:

"EA_Rtas;c-17003495" wrote:
Hey folks, just a heads up, let's try not to post screenshots of a Guru's personal twitter. Regardless of their opinion and whether you agree or not, they are entitled to their privacy.

But it isn’t his private twitter account- it’s his official Guru account in which he publically engages with fans. There is a whole thread dedicated to posting these tweets to keep fans updated. For those that don’t use twitter. This is no different.

Also, the person in question INVITED fans to ask questions. He answered. I believe the person in question has an actual personal account with no affiliation to their profession.

He posted that on his official Guru Twitter account??? And y’all didn’t catch that the first time? Uh oh

I’m talking about the 25 pieces of content tweet and more than the sims 3 at this point tweet.

Are we talking about the same tweet?

Eh we might not be. It’s early lol

But the tweet that has been scrubbed from this thread is one that is saying a disparaging comment about forums in general. Apparently that was from a Guru’s personal account and not his “Guru” account which is why it was removed from this thread.

I thought you were offering the correction that no, it was said from his “Guru” account.

But idk. It’s wild either way in my opinion. That’s like a famous basketball player saying he hates playing basketball. Do you realize the public outrage that would ensue? Doesn’t matter if he said it at the barbershop, it’s wild in my opinion, like a slap in the face to his fan base that has made him rich.

Ah apologies, I thought the moderator was referring to the tweets about sims 4 content.

I wasn’t talking about the one you mention.

I agree though with your points!

"Writin_Reg;c-17001727" wrote:

"Oldeseadogge;c-17001577" wrote:
The game will improve only when the person in charge is mature, responsible, cares about the game & it's quality, and makes sure that all involved in its development/production care. From what I've seen of the game after all these years, and on the live presentations that come out on occasion, none of what is needed is currently present.

Well then you'd have to say the same thing about some of Sims 2 and all of Sims 3 seeing the ones we see on Camera have well over 10-12 years doing the same things they are doing now in those games. Lyndsay started in Sims 1. Same devs, same engineers, same animators etc. The only thing different is the heads of EA, the VP of the Sims Division, some of the artists, some of marketing, and the fact more devs etc who have been there a long time finally decided to become Gurus. Of course being a Guru only means they are volunteering to talk with Simmers - it has nothing to do with making the game.

I have thought to myself many times and wondered why these same people did something else so much better in 2 or 3 - why go so far in a different direction with less appeal - then I realize why they have to do that - is because it has to be different than all the rest of the versions other wise people then start harping about them stealing this or that from the other games and just being lazy. Seems there is no winning for the team. But fact is you can't have it both ways.

The game is a reflection on the producers, Creative Director (which has changed three times in four years) and who oversees them, which is Sim Guru Lyndsay, experience yes, but building an object doesn't make someone a great producer or manager. Just saying that in general not saying that about this team. The games of the past are different because they had different producers, managers, leads, artists, focus, vision and different Creative Director, and Lucy Bradshaw who was over them. The direction will always fall on the producers, and creative director and the person over them.

"keekee53;c-17003019" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-17002993" wrote:
He is considering the countless stuff packs for TS4 as part of that equation -- using the number of DLCs as a basis for the game being "good". I guess it's clear why TS4 is the weaker entry.

That should tell you enough. The Sims 3, love it or hate it, just about had World Adventures, Ambitions, Late Night, Generations, Pets, Showtime, Supernatural, Seasons, University Life, and Island Paradise by now. Many of those packs contained multiple themes from the many TS4 packs all in one expansion.

Edited to remove screenshot of Guru personal twitter. ~Rtas

In Late Night we got bridgeport, apartments(which could be built in any world), vampires, celebrities, subway travel, the food truck, new film career, new zodiac sign for compatibility, group outings, a new dance and the list goes on. Plum, that is like City living, Get Famous, Vampire GP with a touch of Get together with group outings and a bit more than what we have so far and a bit less with the film career being expanded on in 4. If you look at it that way, the expansion in Sims 4 are REALLY lacking.

Not to mention that we also got bands in Late Night. :)
Bands have not been in Sims 4 yet.

"lisamwitt;c-17003095" wrote:

"Chazzzy;c-17003089" wrote:

"Sk8rblaze;c-17002993" wrote:
He is considering the countless stuff packs for TS4 as part of that equation -- using the number of DLCs as a basis for the game being "good". I guess it's clear why TS4 is the weaker entry.

That should tell you enough. The Sims 3, love it or hate it, just about had World Adventures, Ambitions, Late Night, Generations, Pets, Showtime, Supernatural, Seasons, University Life, and Island Paradise by now. Many of those packs contained multiple themes from the many TS4 packs all in one expansion.

Edited to remove screenshot of Guru personal twitter. ~Rtas

Wowwwww he needs to delete that, that's embarrassing and unprofessional in my opinion. Now I understand @Bagoas77 's position even more lol

That was my reaction too. All forums are trash?... Just wow. Way to blast all the fans of pretty much anything anywhere.

I am copiously saddened to hear that that is their thoughts. Sad. I do so hope that I have not contributed to that in any way...