Today, I got up excited to continue on with my current game save. My chosen parents-to-be of the very first Infant in my game are nearly to the end of their third and last term at uni. I had things all planned out. I left the game yesterday so that I would be all fresh, able to see clearly (bad eyes) and carry on. After reading two separate threads on the possible state of our mods once the Patch hits, I no longer know what to do. I've already been made wary of patches, in general. I now have what I call PPDS. EI: Post Patch Distress Syndrome.Realizing I may well be better off starting from scratch without the mods needed to make my Sim the Global Superstar Rock Star he currently is, has me heart-broken. I have worked my tail-end off just trying to recreate the save I managed to lose. It just vanished into nothingness by my profound sense of haste. Made a horrific error that requires me to burn my veteran Sims player stripes.This time, based on those two articles, I will go ahead and back up the entire Sims4 folder. But, do I just download my characters, and start all over again? Or just Erik and his wife? Where do I go from here?I have mulled over the possibility of creating the family dynamics via interactions between them. But without placing all four of the older Cantrell kids back in with their parents, trying to set the FD via CAS, (even if we can do it with cas.fulleditmode) may be impossible, if not improbable at this stage. I simply am in disbelief that three years later, over something I have sincerely hoped for and very much wanted, I'm back to facing a most untenable situation.Any helpful thoughts are more than welcome. I'll be back to check on this thread. (A nice warm shower is calling me, where I will, oddly enough, find comfort singing a particular Paul McCartney song, that I found myself singing after losing two and one half hours of work on my novel after an eight-year bought with Writer's Block. Ah, me.)Thanks for reading.

I'm sorry @GalacticGal :'( I too am desperate to play with all this new content, but the sad fact of the situation is that it is going to cause catastrophe with and without mods to begin with. Sadly, I see no choice but to play offline and not update until things have settled. Better that then lose all the work you have done so far. I really do hate this though. :(

As frustrating as it would be to wait longer, when it's already been such a long wait, it also sounds like you've put a lot of work into getting this save right where you want it. If it were me, I would be inclined to just pause the game for a week or two in hopes that your essential mods will be updated fairly quickly. What is their track record like for updating after other major changes to the game? Do you have any other favorite games you could play in the meantime? Could you be temporarily satisfied with keeping your main save backed up and just using an alternate save to build new lots in San Sequioa (or other worlds, with the new assets and lot type), or testing out the new features on a test save with another family, so that you will have it down pat when you feel safe to proceed with your main save?

We will have two days between the patch and the new pack. If you're getting the pack, give it those days to see if your needed mod is affected or updated.If not, maybe start a temporary vanilla save to play in for a bit.That's how I plan to do it. Usually modders are quick at updating. And maybe your mod will be one of the lucky ones unaffected.Wishing you the best!

I completely understand not wanting to risk all that effort! When I'm not sure, I'll do a "save as" on my game. That way if something goes wrong, there is still an untouched original version of the same for after any bugs are worked out, and there is a version to experiment on. Any extra saves can always be deleted later. Think of it as the same world, but a different dimension? Hopefully that could be helpful!

"phantasmkiss;c-18238616" wrote:I completely understand not wanting to risk all that effort! When I'm not sure, I'll do a "save as" on my game. That way if something goes wrong, there is still an untouched original version of the same for after any bugs are worked out, and there is a version to experiment on. Any extra saves can always be deleted later. Think of it as the same world, but a different dimension? Hopefully that could be helpful!I already do Save As, with each and every gaming session. I have learned that sometimes stuff just goes awry, even when playing in a watchful mode. With Save As, I can do a game recovery when I need to rectify something that totally went wrong. That is most certainly a possibility. I see a ray of sunshine through those dark, ominous clouds overhead. Thank you.ETA: I'll give you a for instance. I was using a sweet little mod that allowed for me to have three-week seasons. Turns out that was causing all kinds of havoc with the Starlight Accolades Show. Sometimes my Sim would get there to see if his nomination would bear fruit, only for me to witness Thorne Bailey, and the mixologist and bouncers plus others filing out of the PBP Studios. I would send my Sim in, anyway. He would wait and wait, and wait some more and no Host would ever show up. Even if the popup declared the it was time for the Accolades show. This happened several times before I found out what was the cause. I even looked it up on the Internet. Best I could find was he moved (from his parents house in Del Sol Valley to Britechester-U.) But, the real culprit, as it turned out was this little mod I loved. I removed it on the advice of others, and that rectified the situation.Having that Save As to roll back to helped my game move forward. Erik ended up winning 20 Best Songs in a row. And he still had two more songs written.In the current save, he already has five with yet another nomination pending. I had to grind to get him to write all of those songs, too. So not looking forward to doing that again, that much is certain.

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SweetieWright_84
New Spectator
2 years ago
I always think of you when I hear about a huge update, @GalacticGal because of the many times you've had to restart Erik's story.

I have 2 Sims 4 folders in my documents folder: one is vanilla and the other is modded. I do this by adding "(dot)MODDED." So it would look like this The Sims 4.MODDED and The Sims 4.VANILLA. When I want to build, I use the vanilla folder. I just remove the (dot)VANILLA. It takes some getting used to to remember to change it, the game will regenerate another folder if you don’t change, but I find it super helpful.

This is how I keep my save files completely mod free and I've done it for a few years now. I got this idea from XUrbanSimsX on YouTube. If I can find the video, I'll post a link so you can get a better understanding of what I mean.

With this method, you could copy the save to the vanilla and continue to play with your favorite Sims. Of course the Road to Fame mod won't be there but it could help you do a test run of other ideas you may have.

Edit: I found the video.
https://youtu.be/BUexEhd5YV4
AncientMuse2
Seasoned Rookie
2 years ago
"Eleri;c-18238820" wrote:
"manicobsessive;c-18238610" wrote:
I'm sorry @GalacticGal :'( I too am desperate to play with all this new content, but the sad fact of the situation is that it is going to cause catastrophe with and without mods to begin with. Sadly, I see no choice but to play offline and not update until things have settled. Better that then lose all the work you have done so far. I really do hate this though. :(

Wait what's going on?! What is the update supposed to do to our game play? What's the source of your intel? Asking as a mostly vanilla player (no mods, a bit of CC here and there).

There's no 'intel' of what may or may not happen with this huge update that coming. But when it comes to the Sims 4 game, it's always best to live by this important school-of-hard-knocks motto:

"Plan for the worst, hope for the best."

;)
Reddestiny921
Seasoned Veteran
2 years ago
I see you have decided what to do, but I wonder have you ever thought to have a cautionary save for Erik? Where it is something like Robert Frost's A Road Not Taken if I'm referencing that correctly and give him something else to do without mods. To see what else life has in store for him, if that's not your thing that's fine I was just curious, I know this would be driving me mad about now.
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"SweetieWright_84;c-18238818" wrote:
I always think of you when I hear about a huge update, @GalacticGal because of the many times you've had to restart Erik's story.

I have 2 Sims 4 folders in my documents folder: one is vanilla and the other is modded. I do this by adding "(dot)MODDED." So it would look like this The Sims 4.MODDED and The Sims 4.VANILLA. When I want to build, I use the vanilla folder. I just remove the (dot)VANILLA. It takes some getting used to to remember to change it, the game will regenerate another folder if you don’t change, but I find it super helpful.

This is how I keep my save files completely mod free and I've done it for a few years now. I got this idea from XUrbanSimsX on YouTube. If I can find the video, I'll post a link so you can get a better understanding of what I mean.

With this method, you could copy the save to the vanilla and continue to play with your favorite Sims. Of course the Road to Fame mod won't be there but it could help you do a test run of other ideas you may have.

Edit: I found the video.
https://youtu.be/BUexEhd5YV4

I do believe I have employed a little bit of this, inasmuch as I have used a name for the save and put _New behind it or something of that nature. I will most certainly separate my current save so that I can either play it vanilla or use it to test a mod (RTF) to see if it's even viable. Thanks for this. You have further inspired me. :)
paigeisin5
New Spectator
2 years ago
"Eleri;c-18238820" wrote:
"manicobsessive;c-18238610" wrote:
I'm sorry @GalacticGal :'( I too am desperate to play with all this new content, but the sad fact of the situation is that it is going to cause catastrophe with and without mods to begin with. Sadly, I see no choice but to play offline and not update until things have settled. Better that then lose all the work you have done so far. I really do hate this though. :(

Wait what's going on?! What is the update supposed to do to our game play? What's the source of your intel? Asking as a mostly vanilla player (no mods, a bit of CC here and there).

The infant update and GT are going to impact a lot of mods players rely on. If you don't use mods, you shouldn't be affected. But I will be playing offline until the mods I rely on the most are updated. With the addition of more skins for babies as well as the new infant clothing, some CC skins and clothing might not function as intended. CC make up and hairs may also break. Once Sims4 Studio is updated they will have batch fixes that will fix the broken CC but that might take a few weeks. We're really hoping for the best but preparing for the worst that could happen. It's just something we mod users go through after every game update or new pack comes along. :)
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Eleri;c-18238820" wrote:
"manicobsessive;c-18238610" wrote:
I'm sorry @GalacticGal :'( I too am desperate to play with all this new content, but the sad fact of the situation is that it is going to cause catastrophe with and without mods to begin with. Sadly, I see no choice but to play offline and not update until things have settled. Better that then lose all the work you have done so far. I really do hate this though. :(

Wait what's going on?! What is the update supposed to do to our game play? What's the source of your intel? Asking as a mostly vanilla player (no mods, a bit of CC here and there).

For those of us who use mods, this patch is going to be what has been called a Mod-Buster. As in most or all of the mods used will be rendered broken. That's what we're discussing in this thread. I need certain mods for my Sim to be a Rock Star. He managed to climb to Global Superstar status as a Teen and is now earning Best Song Starlight Accolades for his written songs. With the most essential mod I use, he can also do concerts and magazine photoshoots for income. He also has the option to make and release albums for additional revenue. Playing without that mod will do serious damage to that. I will make a copy of my game folder and a copy of the save I've been carefully playing to get my Sims ready for Infants. I will isolate a copy of this save, to play vanilla, if need be, so that I can get a feel for the Infants and the new EP. Once it's safe, I'll play the save that's modded.

For those who play without mods, no worries. Unless the patch and EP lead to bugs. :open_mouth: As for my source of intel, I saw the thread over under Modding and Mods gameplay plus the general thread for modding.

I do hope my explanation is clear enough.
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"RedDestiny92;c-18238837" wrote:
I see you have decided what to do, but I wonder have you ever thought to have a cautionary save for Erik? Where it is something like Robert Frost's A Road Not Taken if I'm referencing that correctly and give him something else to do without mods. To see what else life has in store for him, if that's not your thing that's fine I was just curious, I know this would be driving me mad about now.

I believe I have it all sorted out at this moment in time. I went ahead and played my current save forward. The kids have all aged up to YA during their last term in Uni. They have all graduated and are now living in HoB. I will isolate a copy of this save in order to play it, vanilla, just to see what happens. I will play-test RTF and maybe two small mods I need, in between the patch and the release of Growing Together. (EA seriously needs to stop using the same letters so it's easier to shorten the EPs. :open_mouth: ) We already have a GT, Get Together. gr. At any rate, I feel so much better than I did when I started this thread. Many thanks to all of you!
GalacticGal
Seasoned Ace
2 years ago
"Daephene;c-18238827" wrote:
I'm going to play one of my other saves, if any, until MCCC updates. If I had been here earlier I would have asked if you might try playing your ancestral save for a bit until you were sure your mods were safe. But you seem to have made a conclusion. I will probably just wait until the mods update to play at all because I've been on so many breaks lately that I'll be ok with it. But I am not as excited for infants so that's easier for me. I wish you luck with your plan!

That one requires MCCC. My sixth great-grandparents were married at 15 and 16 years old. Since she died rather young it's imperative she's still 15 when they marry, at least. :)

I'm going to make sure I have a copy of my current save. I do a Save As with each gaming session, so once they are married and she's ready to have a baby, I will separate that save from the rest and play it vanilla, as a test save. Then if the stuffing hits the fan, so to speak, I'll still have a copy of it to carry on when the mods are updated. I hope that makes sense.
comicsforever
2 years ago
"GalacticGal;d-1006989" wrote:
Today, I got up excited to continue on with my current game save. My chosen parents-to-be of the very first Infant in my game are nearly to the end of their third and last term at uni. I had things all planned out. I left the game yesterday so that I would be all fresh, able to see clearly (bad eyes) and carry on. After reading two separate threads on the possible state of our mods once the Patch hits, I no longer know what to do. I've already been made wary of patches, in general. I now have what I call PPDS. EI: Post Patch Distress Syndrome.

Realizing I may well be better off starting from scratch without the mods needed to make my Sim the Global Superstar Rock Star he currently is, has me heart-broken. I have worked my tail-end off just trying to recreate the save I managed to lose. It just vanished into nothingness by my profound sense of haste. Made a horrific error that requires me to burn my veteran Sims player stripes.

This time, based on those two articles, I will go ahead and back up the entire Sims4 folder. But, do I just download my characters, and start all over again? Or just Erik and his wife? Where do I go from here?

I have mulled over the possibility of creating the family dynamics via interactions between them. But without placing all four of the older Cantrell kids back in with their parents, trying to set the FD via CAS, (even if we can do it with cas.fulleditmode) may be impossible, if not improbable at this stage.

I simply am in disbelief that three years later, over something I have sincerely hoped for and very much wanted, I'm back to facing a most untenable situation.

Any helpful thoughts are more than welcome. I'll be back to check on this thread. (A nice warm shower is calling me, where I will, oddly enough, find comfort singing a particular Paul McCartney song, that I found myself singing after losing two and one half hours of work on my novel after an eight-year bought with Writer's Block. Ah, me.)

Thanks for reading.

I say restart with him as an infant by the time he's old enough to sing the mods will be fixed that's what I'm gonna do.
bandit34
Seasoned Traveler
2 years ago
Mc should be fastest to be updated. then be ui extension mod. But this patch is biggest since 2017 when toddlers came out. Hopefully not too much of the cc clothes and hair be broken.