Remove the lactose intolerance trait from cottage living

"kaiwrysims;c-17930337" wrote:

"EliteGirl;c-17930328" wrote:

"dearie_blossom;c-17929293" wrote:

"Babykittyjade;c-17929055" wrote:
No. My sister has been lactose and tolerant her entire life. She's excited to play this and so am I. We are always asking for more individuality. More challenge. More struggle. And when they try to give it to us we beg for it to be nerfed. Like no. Stop.

Now I do agree we need more trait slots. I'm using a mod by the pancake1 free on patreon for more trait slots. And there is another modder, Vicky I think he's called, who offers even more trait slots but I didn't need that many.

We should have this official. And it is odd for this to be a "trait" but I still love the idea of added challenge. No more nerfing some of my favorite features were nerfed and I'm still sour about it?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️

This. I‘m so tired of people asking everything that isn‘t bubblegum pop to be removed from the game. No wonder the game plums with a community like this. Can‘t have vampire break ins, can‘t have alien pregnancies, can‘t have murphy bed deaths, can‘t have bowing at a shrine, can‘t have lactose intolerance,…

Edit: I have 26182 allergies myself. I definitely wouldn‘t cry like a baby if they added cat allergy to the game.

I disagree. As someone who has allergies as well as disabilities, I would like my sims to NOT suffer from the allergies I have, as well as allergies I don’t have. It would make my sims game awful. I choose to play “The Sims 4” as an escape to my problems, with the sims as my puppets and I get to choose how to play with my sims. I don’t play the game to be too realistic to the point it’s NOT enjoyable. I don’t want my sims to die from food allergies. That would ruin the fun of the game to me.

Well you can just not give ur sims the trait...

I agree, just don’t issue the trait.
I would like another trait slot and more traits to choose from.

"Mw93;c-17930387" wrote:
the problem is not the fact the devs thought about adding it in game its how its added that offends me and would probably offend others should they wish to added diseases or allergies.

Good news. They didn’t add your allergy to the game. So there’s no need to be offended by it being misrepresented. They added lactose intolerance. I invite you to learn the difference. If you describe yourself as lactose intolerant but really you’re allergic, you’re minimizing your condition.

"LittleFox2;c-17930404" wrote:
Thanks for explaining this by the way.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17929340" wrote:
Do not be confused about what a Sims 4 trait slot is. There are many different factors that make us the person we are. Same goes for a Sim.

Currently 4 trait categories exist in CAS:

• Emotional
  
• Hobby
  
• Lifestyle
  
• Social
  

Vegetarian & Lactose Intolerance would automatically fall under the Lifestyle category. Why?
Well…Obviously you need to change your lifestyle when suffering from any intolerance, may it be lactose, nuts, gluten, meat, you name it.
It’s life changing. It should all go under the lifestyle trait.

Sure, it would be great to get extra trait slots for our Sims , but to call the addition of this lactose intolerance trait mockery is a “little” far fetched.
I personally believe that the trait fits perfectly within the lifestyle category and I think the team did well to add it there.

And seriously OP, if you don’t want it, don’t use it. Plenty of folks who do!
Hooray for it being optional! ?

Why do some make such a big deal some may say?

• Why did some make a big deal when they made JTB? Were those opposed to this considered “snowflakes” or the “easily offended crowd” because they included something that some did not want.

Why do some mod their game? You don’t like something that is by design or it is just too much for you. Newsflash, you nerf the game. The irony of it all is truly amazing.

This forum abounds with things folks don’t want in the game, feel something it too much and/or not enough. And, let’s not forget all the so-called missed opportunities.

• Buy vampire pack—ask that the vampires be nerfed. Why did you buy it?
• The dust bunnies and sparkles are just too much— Dust now accumulates slower. Upon release there was a toggle feature initially added.
• Buy DHD—oh they don’t recognize poop. Newsflash, when you leave, they actually clean up the poop.
• No one asked for JTB. This was a classic community meltdown by some. ?
• Nerf the foxes in Cottage Living. Newsflash, they’ve included not one but multiple solutions to deal with foxes in the game.
• And the list goes on and on.

Obviously, there isn’t anything wrong with balancing or nerfing since many do it. Just stop with the pot calling the kettle black mentality.

OP—too much personal information by the way. They have given ones who don’t like this a solution. Simply don’t use it as a trait. Should there be more trait slots—perhaps. Out of all the things included in this game, you feel this is insensitive because hits a little too close to home—interesting. Yet, you are entitled to your opinion.

I hope this does not get removed.

Counter point, can you add asthma from ecopack as a trait from the getgo? no, its a response to the a gameplay aspect the environment and not as an actual trait, such as asthematic. What about the deadly gerbil disease? like asthma, nope you only get that on conditional gameplay aspects. If both of these were able to be added as traits then it would invalidiate my point. but seeing as clearly as they added these two aspecets of a sims health as game play, I don't think lactose intolerance should be added as a trait, but modified as a genetic aspect of game play like its two previous examples that were simialarily game play things, but if not nope it needs to be nerfed, because allergies and diseases arent personality traits but health stuff.

"LittleFox2;c-17930404" wrote:
Thanks for explaining this by the way.

"CAPTAIN_NXR7;c-17929340" wrote:
Do not be confused about what a Sims 4 trait slot is. There are many different factors that make us the person we are. Same goes for a Sim.

Currently 4 trait categories exist in CAS:

• Emotional
  
• Hobby
  
• Lifestyle
  
• Social
  

Vegetarian & Lactose Intolerance would automatically fall under the Lifestyle category. Why?
Well…Obviously you need to change your lifestyle when suffering from any intolerance, may it be lactose, nuts, gluten, meat, you name it.
It’s life changing. It should all go under the lifestyle trait.

Sure, it would be great to get extra trait slots for our Sims , but to call the addition of this lactose intolerance trait mockery is a “little” far fetched.
I personally believe that the trait fits perfectly within the lifestyle category and I think the team did well to add it there.

And seriously OP, if you don’t want it, don’t use it. Plenty of folks who do!
Hooray for it being optional! ?

Why do some make such a big deal some may say?

• Why did some make a big deal when they made JTB? Were those opposed to this considered “snowflakes” or the “easily offended crowd” because they included something that some did not want.

Why do some mod their game? You don’t like something that is by design or it is just too much for you. Newsflash, you nerf the game. The irony of it all is truly amazing.

This forum abounds with things folks don’t want in the game, feel something it too much and/or not enough. And, let’s not forget all the so-called missed opportunities.

• Buy vampire pack—ask that the vampires be nerfed. Why did you buy it?
• The dust bunnies and sparkles are just too much— Dust now accumulates slower. Upon release there was a toggle feature initially added.
• Buy DHD—oh they don’t recognize poop. Newsflash, when you leave, they actually clean up the poop.
• No one asked for JTB. This was a classic community meltdown by some.
• Nerf the foxes in Cottage Living. Newsflash, they’ve included not one but multiple solutions to deal with foxes in the game.
• And the list goes on and on.

Obviously, there isn’t anything wrong with balancing or nerfing since many do it. Just stop with the pot calling the kettle black mentality.

OP—too much personal information by the way. They have given ones who don’t like this a solution. Simply don’t use it as a trait. Should there be more trait slots—perhaps. Out of all the things included in this game, you feel this is insensitive because it hits a little too close to home—interesting. Yet, you are entitled to your opinion.

I hope this does not get removed.

I think your opinion underminding mine is wrong simply on the grounds that asthma is added to the game as not an actual trait but and aspect of gameplay caused by enviormental conditions, and so is the gerbil disease, if both are added to game aspects of game play and not traits you can add in cas then it should be modified for more of a genetic game play aspect or not added at all. I feel if anything disease allergies medical issues should be game play and not again an UwU character trait.

"LittleFox2;c-17930421" wrote:
@Mw93 When did they add asthma as gameplay to Eco Lifestyle? I kept the world pretty smoggy and I never ran across this once.

if you didnt got it if you go to that one neighborhood in the pack that has a low eco footpring it will smog and sims will start coughing with asthma as a moodlet. it only happens in low ecofootprint neighborhoods.

"LittleFox2;c-17930421" wrote:
@Mw93 When did they add asthma as gameplay to Eco Lifestyle? I kept the world pretty smoggy and I never ran across this once.

So, this is what you want removed.
"Lactose Intolerant
These Sims will become sick if they eat dairy, but will feel great if they have avoided it for a while.

It’s a tough world out there for Sims with the Lactose Intolerant Trait. Especially since there’s a bunch of recipes in The Sims 4 that contain milk or cheese. To make sure your Sim doesn’t make a mistake of making a meal that they won’t be able to tolerate make sure you hover over a finished meal to see if it’s Lactose Free. Meals that contain Lactose won’t have a tag, however meals that are Lactose Free will contain the label letting you know that it’s safe to eat."

You'll have better luck with this endeavor of yours on twitter. Yet, I'm hoping this does not get removed.

also I am willing to screen shot my own game to prove my point too, but yes you can get asthma in game as a temp moodlet from low ecofootprint, it still proves my point asthma which is a chronic health condition, is added not as a trait but and ingame consquence to low eco foot print, just like rabid gerbil disease is another ingame consquence to not taking care of your pet gerbil, if ea coded both these health affecting issues for sims as in game play acquired stuff, then by that precedant lactose intolerance shouldnt be a trait, because even in game the only two verifiable issues that can affect a sims health is not a cas trait from the get go but as a gameplay aspect as possible consquences to actions, so besides offense ie my own, disease and health issues have always been handled as aspects of gameplay and not traits to give your sim willingly.

Wait... you don't even own ts4?!!!!??
Well even if you do own it
at this point, I blame a bit of this on the sims. They have proven to people time and time again that they will bend and nerf stuff. So guess what people do for fun now? They try to stir up controversy and see how many people they can get on the hype train to get stuff nerfed.
And on twitter I've witnessed it coming from multiple people who don't play the game. They literally band together and do stuff like this on purpose. I've seen the conversations.
But EA gives in everytime so this has become a game (no pun intended) to those who don't like ts4, those just looking for a bit of entertainment, and those who don't care that this game has literally millions of players who want to play a variety of ways, they only care about what triggers them in a video game even though they can easily toggle it off, ignore it or not select it.

But if EA chooses to keep giving in what can I say?

"EliteGirl;c-17930464" wrote:

"dearie_blossom;c-17930379" wrote:

"EliteGirl;c-17930328" wrote:

"dearie_blossom;c-17929293" wrote:

"Babykittyjade;c-17929055" wrote:
No. My sister has been lactose and tolerant her entire life. She's excited to play this and so am I. We are always asking for more individuality. More challenge. More struggle. And when they try to give it to us we beg for it to be nerfed. Like no. Stop.

Now I do agree we need more trait slots. I'm using a mod by the pancake1 free on patreon for more trait slots. And there is another modder, Vicky I think he's called, who offers even more trait slots but I didn't need that many.

We should have this official. And it is odd for this to be a "trait" but I still love the idea of added challenge. No more nerfing some of my favorite features were nerfed and I'm still sour about it?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️

This. I‘m so tired of people asking everything that isn‘t bubblegum pop to be removed from the game. No wonder the game plums with a community like this. Can‘t have vampire break ins, can‘t have alien pregnancies, can‘t have murphy bed deaths, can‘t have bowing at a shrine, can‘t have lactose intolerance,…

Edit: I have 26182 allergies myself. I definitely wouldn‘t cry like a baby if they added cat allergy to the game.

I disagree. As someone who has allergies as well as disabilities, I would like my sims to NOT suffer from the allergies I have, as well as allergies I don’t have. It would make my sims game awful. I choose to play “The Sims 4” as an escape to my problems, with the sims as my puppets and I get to choose how to play with my sims. I don’t play the game to be too realistic to the point it’s NOT enjoyable. I don’t want my sims to die from food allergies. That would ruin the fun of the game to me.

No one is forcing you to use the trait. There is a huge problem in the community where people think just because they don‘t like something it has to be removed from the game. How far are we going to take this? I can already picture a Sims 5 without deaths, ghosts, runaway pets and bills because it triggers some people.

People upset over sims getting and having allergies due to real life experiences is NOT unreasonable. If anything, it’s being caring about their sims and NOT being heartless when it comes to their sims. Death, ghosts and bills are important because this is a life simulator game, BUT asking for sims to have allergies and severe allergic reactions where sims can die is controversial, and NOT in a good way. It’s killing off your sim in a gruesome way and a struggle that is NOT fun.

The bowing at the shrine was a controversy due to real life issues, so that had to be removed so the game remains non offensive. I hope Maxis/EA does the right thing by removing the lactose intolerant trait.

Yes, it is unreasonable. Lactose intolerance is not an allergy, and sims aren't dying from it -- they're farting from it. If you find it problematic, there is a simple solution: don't use it. I certainly won't. I raised boys; I've had enough farting to last a lifetime.

Food allergies can be fatal. So if instead of death-by-chicken and death-by-bunny they had death-by-milk, you may have an argument. But there's no death by milk nor death by allergies. The deaths are silly because Sims are silly.

"dearie_blossom;c-17930379" wrote:

"EliteGirl;c-17930328" wrote:

"dearie_blossom;c-17929293" wrote:

"Babykittyjade;c-17929055" wrote:
No. My sister has been lactose and tolerant her entire life. She's excited to play this and so am I. We are always asking for more individuality. More challenge. More struggle. And when they try to give it to us we beg for it to be nerfed. Like no. Stop.

Now I do agree we need more trait slots. I'm using a mod by the pancake1 free on patreon for more trait slots. And there is another modder, Vicky I think he's called, who offers even more trait slots but I didn't need that many.

We should have this official. And it is odd for this to be a "trait" but I still love the idea of added challenge. No more nerfing some of my favorite features were nerfed and I'm still sour about it?‍♀️?‍♀️?‍♀️

This. I‘m so tired of people asking everything that isn‘t bubblegum pop to be removed from the game. No wonder the game plums with a community like this. Can‘t have vampire break ins, can‘t have alien pregnancies, can‘t have murphy bed deaths, can‘t have bowing at a shrine, can‘t have lactose intolerance,…

Edit: I have 26182 allergies myself. I definitely wouldn‘t cry like a baby if they added cat allergy to the game.

I disagree. As someone who has allergies as well as disabilities, I would like my sims to NOT suffer from the allergies I have, as well as allergies I don’t have. It would make my sims game awful. I choose to play “The Sims 4” as an escape to my problems, with the sims as my puppets and I get to choose how to play with my sims. I don’t play the game to be too realistic to the point it’s NOT enjoyable. I don’t want my sims to die from food allergies. That would ruin the fun of the game to me.

No one is forcing you to use the trait. There is a huge problem in the community where people think just because they don‘t like something it has to be removed from the game. How far are we going to take this? I can already picture a Sims 5 without deaths, ghosts, runaway pets and bills because it triggers some people.

I cant help but wonder if there's like some outside force that is literally forcing someone to perform gameplay that they do not enjoy doing. Im just very curious.

I think some people just take the game way too seriously. There's stuff in the game I dont like (not much but its there) but I dont see any need to go on a crusade to get it removed, especially if such gameplay is ridiculously minuscule and isnt really in your face demanding attention. I go on with my life and just not use it. I hate bees in real life and am allergic to their stings, do I care that there are bees in the game? No, because its a game and life's too short to fuss over little things like that. Whenever my sim encounters bees, I certainly dont think "how can I get bees completely removed from the game..." Im gonna be bursting some bubbles here, but the game aint gonna revolve around your particular needs. Its not really fair to try to get some gameplay entirely removed just to fit YOUR criteria. Especially when its some poop that nobody really cares about! I know some folks like to think that they do get to ultimately decide what the community gets or doesnt get, and I dont know where you got that idea from, but you dont. Honey you dont.

I get that people have dietary issues and have their opinions on how it should be represented, but why do we always gotta jump to "well that feature's gotta go" (Especially if you have folks that are literally saying "wait a minute Im fine with this stop speaking for me this is why we get nothing in the game"). We aint even gonna try to come up with a happy medium? That aint even on the table? I agree with having a trait slot that addresses a sim's own dietary needs. It's gotta come with a food oriented pack, but I like the idea of it. Heck if its something that adds more personality to sims, Im down. But can we please quit with the "oh I dont like this feature, its gotta go right now"? Save it for when the sims team does something truly asinine and ignorant.

I'm sorry, but I just have to throw my two-cents in again.

While I can somewhat understand that some of you may not like the idea of lactose intolerance coming to the game, it is not fair by any means to ask for it to be removed from the game. And even a bit selfish, I feel. This is an optional trait that you as a player can choose to add to your sims or not. If it bothers you that much, just don't use the trait, and if you have MCCC, blacklist it so that no randomly generated townies get it.

Don't ask for it be removed just because you may find it offensive. If the devs nerfed and removed every little thing that could be triggering or offensive to somebody, we wouldn't have any game left to play. If you think hard enough about it... almost anything in the game can be considered offensive to someone in one way or another.

I mean, the fact that Sims can get sunburnt in Sulani if they sunbathe without sunscreen could be offensive to someone who has super fair skin and burns easily. Should sunbathing be removed from the game altogether? Or how about swimming? Some people have a phobia of water or drowning, and some people may have even had a near drowning experience. Or what about people who are scared of dogs? Do we just nerf them as well, despite the fact that some people love having dogs in their game?

There are so many things in the world to actually be mad about... and yet people are offended by an optional trait in a video game? It just doesn't make sense to me.