Stuffpacks Might Be Returning (Speculation)

Oooh, looks promising to me! I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I get the feeling the eyes just mean there are more kits coming.

My main priority will always be Expansion and Game Packs but I wish they'd do more Stuff Packs like Laundry, Paranormal, Tiny Living and Nifty Knitting. I completely understand what they're trying to do with Kits but none of them have really catched my attention, there's plenty of free CC that is still better than those.

When Sims' packs get criticized, the conversation is usually about how many there are, but I think this distracts from the real issue. The thing is, the Sims 4 has been supported for twice as long as any other Sims game. Of course it will have a lot of packs. That itself isn't a problem. It can even be a good thing. The issue is how they sell them.

World of Warcraft is a game that has a lot of expansions. Years ago, however, they started rolling older expansions into the "base game", so you only ever need to buy the most recent expansion. Borderlands 2 is a game with a ton of DLC, but they eventually released a Game of the Year Edition that rolls all (or at least most) into a single purchase. Borderlands 3 has Season Passes that combine DLC.

The Sims, on the other hand, is still selling 10 year old expansions for the same prices they did when they were new. They also barely offer any sort of bundling. Even on sales, they have a strict sale pattern that they never diverge from, and it's tiered based on the kind of pack they are.

One of the reasons I don't like Kits is that their pattern is that they don't even go on sale. $5 may not be a lot, but you're still just buying virtual clutter. I love clutter in the Sims and love that the Clutter Kits exist, but that's never going to feel like value, especially when it has to compete with things that are on sale, and you can get good, full games for that price. I would gladly take Stuff Packs again because they aren't just cheap, they have value.

"Future;c-18265854" wrote:
I pay hints no mind. I’ll believe it when they show me something concrete. Emojis don’t count.

90% of different hints on various things were corrent. They aren't doing this for no reason. Same happened with horses lately and they would ignore questions about horses if they had nothing to say

stuff packs are kind of hit or miss to me so yeah idk
if its like knitting and paranormal yay
if its like luxury party or hot tub stuff nay

there was mention of sewing in curtains description in Growing Together though

and i do think sewing could be what they are scheming here

I think it would perfectly fit the " small gameplay item that needs cas and b/b to go with it" stuff pack theme

or it could be (in my dreams) that they decide to do stuff pack out of the recent kit vote instead

or, are we gonna have that infant item stuff pack? since we have toddler and kids stuff it only seems logical there would be one for infants eventually

I hope stuff packs will return. In general I think communicating through nothing but an eyes emoji a bit ridiculous but the sims team seems to think differently. They used it at the beginning of the year when someone asked about a generations pack.

If we are lucky enough to get another stuff pack, I hope it will be the same quality as the later stuff packs (paranormal, knitting, laundry, tiny living).

"JustinB113;c-18266034" wrote:
I honestly prefer kits to stuff packs. I know I’m in a minority. But I really like the quick cheap pack and I find that with less stuff it’s generally better quality. I use kit CAS and items a lot more than I use most stuff pack ones, and I use a lot bigger percentage of it.

I also think the stuff pack gameplay items are often over praised. If every stuff pack included something like a butler or bust a dust or the Moschino poses then I’d love it. But a lot of these gameplay items never get used - climbing wall, bird feeder etc.

I’d welcome a good pack like paranormal but honestly I’d rather they just do a gamepack. My personal preference would be kits for small themes, game packs for bigger ones and then expansion packs. They should release more game packs and shouldn’t worry so much about including worlds in them.

Wow, this is the first time I ever hear someone say they prefer kits over stuff packs. I didn't expect that. I can't say that I agree but everyone is entitled to their own opinion in this matter.

I do agree with you when it comes to worlds in DLC. Not every pack needs one. Seasons, parenthood and spa day are examples of good packs without worlds.

"Atreya33;c-18266605" wrote:
I hope stuff packs will return. In general I think communicating through nothing but an eyes emoji a bit ridiculous but the sims team seems to think differently. They used it at the beginning of the year when someone asked about a generations pack.

If we are lucky enough to get another stuff pack, I hope it will be the same quality as the later stuff packs (paranormal, knitting, laundry, tiny living).

"JustinB113;c-18266034" wrote:
I honestly prefer kits to stuff packs. I know I’m in a minority. But I really like the quick cheap pack and I find that with less stuff it’s generally better quality. I use kit CAS and items a lot more than I use most stuff pack ones, and I use a lot bigger percentage of it.

I also think the stuff pack gameplay items are often over praised. If every stuff pack included something like a butler or bust a dust or the Moschino poses then I’d love it. But a lot of these gameplay items never get used - climbing wall, bird feeder etc.

I’d welcome a good pack like paranormal but honestly I’d rather they just do a gamepack. My personal preference would be kits for small themes, game packs for bigger ones and then expansion packs. They should release more game packs and shouldn’t worry so much about including worlds in them.

Wow, this is the first time I ever hear someone say they prefer kits over stuff packs. I didn't expect that. I can't say that I agree but everyone is entitled to their own opinion in this matter.

I do agree with you when it comes to worlds in DLC. Not every pack needs one. Seasons, parenthood and spa day are examples of good packs without worlds.

I have to disagree, I think GP and higher should include a world. I honestly forgot Parenthood was a GP and not a SP. If it came out today I would wait for a sale. Not having a world does not seem to equate to more bb/cas/or gameplay. We simply get less. Ofcourse people are going to buy seasons, weather is such a core concept it should probably be BG. Seasons absolutely should have included a world.

Most kits have been misses for me. While I appreciate the increase in content, the value is not there for me. There have been a handful of kits that I really enjoyed. I hope SP are coming back.

The usability of an object and how long it stays interesting is a very subjective feeling. For me it doesn't correlate directly with the DLC type. I have some items I always tend to gravitate too in all levels of DLC. For stuff packs for example I often use the furniture in tiny living and the decor items in cool kitchen. I regularly use the dresses in romantic garden stuff and the toddler outfits in toddler stuff. I wouldn't want to miss those stuff packs. However the clutter in the clutter kit and the curtains in the desert lux kit are also on the list of items I will continue to use regularly. Which items or DLC we think is worthwhile in the long run is very personal. There is no right or wrong opinion about what items are the best.

The way I see it the reason why the quality of kits is good is not the smaller size and selection but the gradual increase in experience in making those objects. The items added in all DLC and updates have increased in quality over the years. DLC released in the last two or three years all have better looking items than DLC from let's say 2015, especially CAS has improved.

Stuff packs making a comeback?

That would be great if it were true, but I won't be holding my breath.