min_lod_value?

I think the ones that appear in the DATA files have a export_modes tag in the TDESC. I haven't extracted the DATA yet though, so I haven't checked.

@Triplis Here are 2 traits that I completely fixed (supposedly): Introvert and Girly
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AnQRpEJJEtVCh3OS6GPC9AekWCtD

The MINIMUM/BASE/FULL are most likely for performance reasons, and are used for the culling process for example, where you're allowed a certain number of Sims in each level of details (though there were exceptions for played Sims for example). There are different rules to switch sims between the LODs. There's more in the Python side indeed.

In this case, I guess they probably aimed to reduce the data of MINIMUM sims that wasn't noticable in the simulation.

"Neia;c-16138225" wrote:
The MINIMUM/BASE/FULL are most likely for performance reasons, and are used for the culling process for example, where you're allowed a certain number of Sims in each level of details (though there were exceptions for played Sims for example). There are different rules to switch sims between the LODs. There's more in the Python side indeed.

In this case, I guess they probably aimed to reduce the data of MINIMUM sims that wasn't noticable in the simulation.

Hmm. So in your assessment/guess (or whatever you want to call it :P), would it be something that should be manually set by modders in custom traits, or is it tied to python scripts and culling settings to an extent that those settings will take care of what min_lod_value needs to be set at?

Yes, I think for the personality traits (like the ones created with the Trait Constructor), modders should add the MINIMUM, otherwise the Sims would probably lose the trait if they happen to get switched to the minimum lod (which can happen for unplayed/unhoused Sims for example).

Full Sims are basically played/housed Sims, base Sims are unplayed, and minimum Sims are unplayed/unhoused kept for the family tree (or at least that was the case before the patch)

"Neia;c-16138294" wrote:
Yes, I think for the personality traits (like the ones created with the Trait Constructor), modders should add the MINIMUM, otherwise the Sims would probably lose the trait if they happen to get switched to the minimum lod (which can happen for unplayed/unhoused Sims for example).

Full Sims are basically played/housed Sims, base Sims are unplayed, and minimum Sims are unplayed/unhoused kept for the family tree (or at least that was the case before the patch)

Ok, makes sense. Thanks.

Any idea if that line would be tied to a new part in the DATA file for the trait? I've been trying to get a look at one of the trait DATA files, up to date from the patch, to check myself, but am having issues.

"Neia;c-16138360" wrote:
I think the ones that appear in the DATA files have a export_modes tag in the TDESC. I haven't extracted the DATA yet though, so I haven't checked.

Oh, I see now, yeah. min_lod_value doesn't appear to have an export_modes thing, so probably not in DATA then. Thanks.


The new tuning ui_category does though, but it looks like it's disabled by default, so presumably if a trait doesn't have any setting for it, it just won't be sorted in the window in some special way. So maybe not vital for working properly (pending testing -- I'm still looking over code, haven't even tried most of my mods enabled yet), but certainly another thing to take into account for custom traits now.


Edit: Also, the issue I'm having with DATA, is it appears that VelocityGrass's tool is having issues being able to open trait DATA files from the new patch. Looks like Sims Studio may be hitting the same issue... extracting a tuning with it will bring out XML and DATA for a buff file I tried, but only brought out XML file for a CAS trait. Unless I'm forgetting how Sims Studio works.

Edit2: Seems Sims Studio's getting an error trying to read trait DATA files post-patch. I looked manually under the DATA section.

Posted about the problem on their forums. I know VelocityGrass doesn't update their tool anymore, but hopefully Sims Studio will be able to update for it. :)

Update on the ui_category thing / struggling to read new DATA files.

Sims Studio put out an update.

http://sims4studio.com/thread/562/sims-studio-windows-wishes-open

Am able to read now (and should just be able to copy in the new bit for custom traits).

Here's a sample with the ui_category DATA bit in there, from the Insider trait:

  
    
      
        8
        32
        4
        64
        16
      
      00000000-00000000-0000000000000000
      
      00000000-00000000-0000000000000000
      Insider
      
        9602
      
      0x7396C481
      
      00B2D882-00000000-68A9E44CBDA95F97
      
        1
      
      
        234
        756
      
      0xC66BD378
      0x00000000
      0
      
        0
      
    
  
  
    
      
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
        
      
    
  

@Triplis How do I find the DATA file in Sims Studio? I'd like to update my traits but this is all very new to me so any help would be immensely appreciated!!

@Wishonmeh05 Are your traits in a .package file type? If so, you should be able to click on the button "My Projects", find where the package file is, and open it that way.

Also, I suggest creating a copy of the package file to edit it, so that you have a backup in case something goes wrong.