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Re: Sims 4 Crashes during gameplay on PC

Finally was able to see what has been crashing but I still don't know what to do.  I hope you can help me.

Source
EA

Summary
Stopped working

Date
‎3/‎22/‎2024 8:42 PM

Status
Report sent

Description
Faulting Application Path: C:\Program Files\Electronic Arts\EA Desktop\EA Desktop\EADesktop.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: EADesktop.exe
Application Version: 13.152.0.5665
Application Timestamp: 65ef67ec
Fault Module Name: StackHash_4a96
Fault Module Version: 10.0.22621.3235
Fault Module Timestamp: a2c4352c
Exception Code: c0000374
Exception Offset: PCH_EB_FROM_ntdll+0x000000000009FEC4
OS Version: 10.0.22621.2.0.0.768.101
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 4a96
Additional Information 2: 4a961245a452687b06e981f79059a7a1
Additional Information 3: f422
Additional Information 4: f422d28775ba694088f4214e191bcd00

Extra information about the problem
Bucket ID: 837ad9fa30774f16301eba27f691e7f8 (1161570434711414776)

25 Replies

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  Right, that's an EA App crash, which would explain the Sims 4 crashes as well.  Please uninstall the EA App with Revo Uninstaller (the free version is fine), which is the most thorough way to remove it and all its associated hidden files.  Restart your computer, reinstall the App, and try again to play.

    If that doesn't help, try putting the EA App in offline mode before launching Sims 4.  The game should still work fine, minus the Gallery; this is just about the App itself.

    If you get another crash, please try playing in a clean boot:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-to-perform-a-clean-boot-in-windows-da2f9573-6eec-00ad-2f8a-a97a1807f3dd

    The one service to leave enabled is the EABackgroundService, which the EA App needs in order to run.  Disable the rest as described.

    When you reboot your computer, go through the Task Manager's background processes list shutting down any service that doesn't absolutely need to be running, for example anything from MSI Afterburner to RGB software might still be enabled.  If you accidentally kill a critical process and it doesn't restart on its own, just reboot your computer again.

    Don't open anything other than Sims 4 and the EA App while testing, not even a browser window.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    I have done what you said, I uninstalled EA app, reinstalled and it still crashes. I have played offline and it worked for about a week and now same crap again. I don't understand because I didn't have this issue for years and all of a sudden, this is happening all the time. I start the game and not even five minutes, it is crashing. It's stuck where I can't save and then I have to turn off my laptop to get out the game. What can I do to fix this, I don't have a slow computer so I am not understanding these crashes. 

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    Source
    Windows

    Summary
    Hardware error

    Date
    ‎5/‎8/‎2024 11:49 AM

    Status
    Not reported

    Description
    A problem with your hardware caused Windows to stop working correctly.

    Problem signature
    Problem Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
    Code: 141
    Parameter 1: ffffd80bda204460
    Parameter 2: fffff801b10d86e0
    Parameter 3: 0
    Parameter 4: 0
    OS version: 10_0_22621
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 768_1
    OS Version: 10.0.22621.2.0.0.768.101
    Locale ID: 1033

    Description
    Faulting application name: ctfmon.exe, version: 10.0.22621.1, time stamp: 0xf4b8fb49
    Faulting module name: InputService.dll, version: 10.0.22621.3527, time stamp: 0x305fcc5a
    Exception code: 0x00000675
    Fault offset: 0x00000000000dc245
    Faulting process id: 0x0x1F88
    Faulting application start time: 0x0x1DAA13AC8F6AE06
    Faulting application path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
    Faulting module path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\InputService.dll
    Report Id: 78d0940e-3df3-41e0-af5e-cbbae9749602
    Faulting package full name:
    Faulting package-relative application ID:

    The program TS4_x64.exe version 1.106.148.1030 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Security and Maintenance control panel.

    These are the latest issues I have been having. I've updated my graphics driver, uninstalled, reinstalled the EA app, repaired all my sims 4 games, and nothing is working. 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  I apologize for the late reply.  I took a break from answering Sims 4 threads and am only now catching up.

    The LiveKernelEvent 141 is a crash of the graphics driver, likely (but not certainly) the Nvidia driver.  Since that's relatively simple to address, please do so, specifically with a clean uninstall and reinstall of the driver, as described here:

    https://crinrict.com/blog/2019/02/clean-re-install-of-graphics-drivers-with-display-driver-uninstaller-ddu.html

    You can get a fresh copy of the newest Nvidia driver here:

    https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/224484/en-us/

    The driver should work fine, but if not, take your laptop back online and let Windows find an appropriate driver, then restart again.

    If you get another crash, please try playing in windowed mode.  Switch to it through the graphics options, then quit and reload Sims 4.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    So after all that I started the game in windowed, not even 4 min. It crashed. I went into device manager, display adapters and my Nvidia graphic driver disappeared. That is what is crashing my game. So the question is, why does a graphic driver that came with my system repeatedly crash and it disappears as if it was never there.  I am so sorry to keep bugging you about this and I wish I knew what to do to fix this. I just want to play my game in peace. 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1   You're not bugging me at all.  So you're saying that in the Device Manager, under Display adapters, you only see the Intel graphics chip, nothing else?  And this is still true after a couple of restarts of your computer?

    If so, use Display Driver Uninstaller to remove both graphics drivers, if the Nvidia driver is still there, or only the Intel driver if it's not.  (The Nvidia driver should be removed first, then the Intel driver.)  But this time, while still offline, download and run this driver package for the Surface Book 3:

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=101315

    The installer should only install the missing drivers, in this case both graphics drivers, after which point you can restart again, go back online, and see whether the GPUs both appear in the Device Manager.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    What is happening is when I launch a game (Sims 4), and start to play, I hear this sound in the background and then it freezes. I played it on the window option so it is easier to get out of the game to my desktop. From there, I opened device manager and the only graphic display showing is the intel and the Nvidia is not there anymore. So I have to reinstall it and it shows up. But why is this happening when it use to didn’t do this? I haven’t done anything to my computer to mess up the graphics so why is this a continued issue? Like right now, both are showing and as soon as I try to play the sims, it’s going to crash. I don’t know what to do to fix this 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  Try forcing Windows to use the Nvidia card for Sims 4.  Under Windows Settings > System > Display > Graphics settings, click Browse, find TS4_x64.exe on the list, and choose the high-performance setting.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    Hey, thanks for the reply: The settings were set on high performance which is the Nvidia and it has been crashing so that isn’t working. 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  I've asked for a second opinion on your issue, so please post a fresh dxdiag, one run now.  I'd also like to see the results of some hardware logging.  Please download hwinfo (it's free) from here:

    https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

    You don't need to install anything; just choose the Portable version, unzip it, and launch it from Downloads or wherever you like.  If you do want the full installer, be sure to click the button for hwinfo itself, not for lansweeper.

    Restart your computer, open hwinfo, choose Sensors Only, and click the button that's a sheet of paper with a + to start logging.  Save the log file to your desktop for easy access.  Wait five minutes, then open Sims 4 and play until it crashes.  Don't alt-tab out of the game or run any other programs, aside from the EA App of course, while you're testing.  When you're done, click the same button to stop the logging.

    Please upload the log to the third-party filesharing site of your choice (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and link it for me.  Either leave it in .csv format or, if you're going to use OneDrive, create a .zip file, and don't open the log before uploading it, or else my log reader might not be able to interpret it.

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  The link is restricted, as in, I can't access it without signing into Google and specifically into an account allowed access.  Please change it to "anyone with this link" so I can download the file.

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  Some of the hwinfo data from your 1660 ti is odd, to the point where the GPU might not be working properly.  So it's worth testing in a different context to see how it behaves.  Please download the free 3DMark Demo from Steam, and run Time Spy three or four times, back to back, with hwinfo open and logging.  In addition to the new log, please also post the results of at least one Time Spy run.  You can do so without a separate account; just click the link to view online.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    • Device information: 
    • Device name: MECHIAGAMING
    • Serial number: 019193503157
    • Surface model: Surface Book 3 Model 1899 i7
    • SAM: 10.503.139.0
    • UEFI: 19.101.140.0
    • App version: 61.24040.89.0
    • BIOS Version/Date: Microsoft Corporation 19.101.140 04/11/2024
    • Touch driver: 4.0.211.139
    • Wi-Fi driver: 23.30.0.6
    • Edition: Windows 11 Home
    • OS build: 22621.3593
    • Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1065G7 CPU @ 1.30GHz
    • Installed RAM: 16 GB
    • Storage size: 56 GB free of 237 GB
    • GPU: Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti with Max-Q Design
    • Screen resolution: 3240 x 2160


    Not sure what to look for so I copied this from the Surface app for my computer 

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    I replied to you but I didn't see my comment so I am wondering if they flagged it. I copied the Surface 3 info for my computer but I ended up installing the firmware because apparently I didn't have it because it fully updated. 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  Your other post might have been flagged as spam, which happens for bad or inexplicable reasons sometimes.  At any rate, did installing the new firmware help?

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    No it did not help. I was told by Nvidia techs that because I am getting a code 43, my computer may need to be repaired. This makes no sense to me. I have done everything, followed everything you had me try. All I am trying to do is keep my Sims 4 game from Crashing and it keeps happening. This time I got a code 47. 

  • puzzlezaddict's avatar
    puzzlezaddict
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    2 years ago

    @panther1977_1  Error code 43 means there's a problem with the device in question, and 47 means that Windows is trying to remove the device.  It does seem from what we've seen here that your Nvidia GPU may be faulty, but that's not something that anyone can diagnose definitively over the internet, just guess is more or less likely based on symptoms.  That's why I was asking about hwinfo and benchmarks: to look for signs of a problem that were more specific than Sims 4 crashing.

    I unfortunately don't have any other suggestions here aside from having the laptop examined by a professional, in person.

  • panther1977_1's avatar
    panther1977_1
    New Rookie
    2 years ago

    Well I definitely appreciate all your help. I will be taking it somewhere to get examined. Thanks again. 

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