LEs occurring while game is paused and after saving

I misunderstood the part where you said you re-posted it in another thread and just saw that this was still modded so it seemed that you had other mods than BE still in the game.

Going to lock this for now and let CM decide if they want to move this to the mods forum or not.

Thank you for trying to help. As I mentioned in my reply, 

I removed BE, but I was unable to recreate the exact LE since I believe it is something that is occurring outside of my actions. I did, however, receive a new LE from my attempt to recreate it, but I think it will have to be reported in a different post.

This is the LE text that I originally submitted. Please note, I have since removed BE: 

I already removed BE. This text that I pasted was the original LE that I originally attached to the bug report. I was unable to recreate the LE that first occurred, but instead got a different LE, which I have then reported in a different post.

really need you to remove all your mods. If an LE shows as modded, it might not get looked into because of that.

• Please follow these steps to test  your game on vanilla game with no mods/cc
• Create a backup of your save game
• Move your mods folder to the desktop
• Delete the following files from your user folder.
  •  localthumbcache
  •   Any lastException Files
  •   Any LastCrash files.
• Test your save (you will loose all cc on the save but since you created a backup you can go back to that afterwards) and see if the same error occurs, then report back and repost the exception files.

I attached and submitted the LE text when I created the post, but I guess attachments don't show up? I removed BE, but I was unable to recreate the exact LE since I believe it is something that is occurring outside of my actions. I did, however, receive a new LE from my attempt to recreate it, but I think it will have to be reported in a different post.

This is the LE text that I originally submitted. Please note, I have since removed BE: 

<?xml version="1.0" ?><root><BetterExceptions><BEversion>v3.15</BEversion><WasBlank>False</WasBlank><TuningLoadFinished>True</TuningLoadFinished><BadObjectCC>False</BadObjectCC><Advice>Not available. More info may be in BE Report.</Advice></BetterExceptions><report><version>2</version><sessionid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2026-02-20 10:47:40</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.121.372.1020-1.300.000.234.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>tunable.py:882</categoryid><desyncid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception while updating story progression service.: (IndexError: list index out of range)&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;Caught and logged:&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\story_progression\story_progression_tracker.py", line 139, in update_arcs_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\story_progression\story_progression_arc.py", line 166, in update_story_arc&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\story_progression\story_progression_chapter.py", line 248, in update_story_chapter&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\story_progression\story_progression_actions\story_progression_action_base.py", line 54, in run_story_progression_action&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\story_progression\story_progression_actions\story_progression_action_relationship.py", line 102, in _save_participants&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\relationships\relationship_track.py", line 1162, in get_active_bit_by_value&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\relationships\tunable.py", line 882, in get_active_bit_by_value&#13;&#10;IndexError: list index out of rangertim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 38.72&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,644,1,6152&#13; &#10;Modded: True&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.26200 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 32.0.15.9174, GUID: 2E211FAA-B204-11EF-9D37-E1D5B3E04AEB&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

<report><version>2</version><sessionid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2026-02-20 10:48:35</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.121.372.1020-1.300.000.234.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>drama_node.py:1686</categoryid><desyncid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception occurred while attempting to populate a repeated field: (AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 219, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 465, in call_save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 502, in save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 547, in _save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 616, in _fill_and_send_save_game_protobufs_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_manager.py", line 122, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 1781, in save_zone&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_scheduler.py", line 647, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_node.py", line 1686, in save&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 38.72&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,644,1,6152&#13; &#10;Modded: True&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.26200 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 32.0.15.9174, GUID: 2E211FAA-B204-11EF-9D37-E1D5B3E04AEB&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

<report><version>2</version><sessionid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2026-02-20 10:50:37</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.121.372.1020-1.300.000.234.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>drama_node.py:1686</categoryid><desyncid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception occurred while attempting to populate a repeated field: (AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 219, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 465, in call_save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 502, in save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 547, in _save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 616, in _fill_and_send_save_game_protobufs_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_manager.py", line 122, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 1781, in save_zone&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_scheduler.py", line 647, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_node.py", line 1686, in save&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 38.72&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,644,1,6152&#13; &#10;Modded: True&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.26200 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 32.0.15.9174, GUID: 2E211FAA-B204-11EF-9D37-E1D5B3E04AEB&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

<report><version>2</version><sessionid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</sessionid><type>desync</type><sku>ea.maxis.sims4_64.15.pc</sku><createtime>2026-02-20 10:50:41</createtime><buildsignature>Local.Unknown.Unknown.1.121.372.1020-1.300.000.234.Release</buildsignature><categoryid>drama_node.py:1686</categoryid><desyncid>86fb18895fee975069987e98</desyncid><systemconfig/><screenshot/><desyncdata>Exception occurred while attempting to populate a repeated field: (AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id')&#13;&#10;Traceback (most recent call last):&#13;&#10;&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\utils.py", line 179, in wrapper&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 219, in c_api_server_tick&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\scheduling.py", line 231, in simulate&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\elements.py", line 376, in _run&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 465, in call_save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\areaserver.py", line 452, in request_client_disconnect_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 481, in save_to_scratch_slot_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 502, in save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 547, in _save_game_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\services\persistence_service.py", line 616, in _fill_and_send_save_game_protobufs_gen&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone_manager.py", line 122, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\zone.py", line 1781, in save_zone&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Core\sims4\service_manager.py", line 537, in save_all_services&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_scheduler.py", line 647, in save&#13;&#10; File "T:\InGame\Gameplay\Scripts\Server\drama_scheduler\drama_node.py", line 1686, in save&#13;&#10;AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'id'rtim=0&#13;&#10;Client Session Time: 38.72&#13; &#10;Num Save Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Num Load Errors: 0&#13; &#10;Current Game State: 0x96d01090&#13; &#10;LoadingScreenActiveFlag: 1&#13; &#10;Origin Version: 13,644,1,6152&#13; &#10;Modded: True&#13; &#10;SystemInfo: Windows 11 10.0.26200 GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 32.0.15.9174, GUID: 2E211FAA-B204-11EF-9D37-E1D5B3E04AEB&#13; &#10;</desyncdata></report>

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BE is also a mod, so you need to remove that as well.

After doing that, please delete all the lastexceptions, lastcrash and localthumbcache file.

Go back to your game and trigger the error again.

Check the documents folder for new lastexceptions. Open that with a text editor and copy/paste the content to a post.