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slytherclaw95
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11 days ago
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[RL] 'Secret Witness' Guilty Sentiment without reason

I'm using the new Royalty & Legacy pack and I think this may be a new sentiment that comes from that pack. I established a Dynasty with a pre-existing family (pre downloading the new pack), and the married Sims in the family keep getting a guilty "Secret Witness" sentiment after they WooHoo. The wife is the Dynasty Head and the husband is rank 4 of 4 in the Dynasty. I couldn't figure out at first what was causing it, but I spent a day working to remove the sentiment, had them WooHoo again, and saw it reappear for both of them. In that case, they hadn't replaced the negative sentiment with any positive ones. Day 2, I worked to remove the sentiment again, and even got the husband to develop two positive sentiments for her while she just lost the negative one. WooHoo again; this time, husband with the positive sentiments kept those, but she without any gained the same negative one again.

Issues with this:

  1. They're married, with two children. It's no secret they WooHoo, to anyone.
  2. Even if they were two Sims having an affair, their affair partner shouldn't inspire a "Secret Witness" sentiment, because they are part of the secret. Only getting caught by a third party should inspire such a sentiment. 

Gameplay wise, it's negatively impacting the Unity of the Dynasty unnecessarily. Everyone else has a relationship of 100 with each other, so this is the only thing that could explain the dropping Unity.

If anyone can figure out the cheat code to remove this specific Sentiment, it would be much appreciated, because it's really starting to drive me crazy.

Edit By Crinrict: Adjusted pack tag to fit conventions of the forum.

40 Comments

  • crinrict's avatar
    crinrict
    Hero+
    6 days ago

    I merged your thread then. Make sure to vote.

  • DramaQ1's avatar
    DramaQ1
    Rising Adventurer
    4 days ago

    Happened to me too, PS5 player.
    I have fully disabled the new royalty pack because I'm not playing that yet. It appears that's ineffective because they get a sentiment that should be disabled. Brand new game, young adult married couple with an infant, getting the "secret witness" bs any time they woohoo. It's 100% reliable, this bug. Should be easy to find and smash. Let my sims that are in love, faithful, and even have the GOOD TRAIT woohoo in peace.

  • BarMaster71's avatar
    BarMaster71
    Seasoned Adventurer
    4 days ago

    DramaQ1 - Uninstall it instead of just disabling it.

    And what does the "Good" trait have to do with marital fidelity? You think people who generously donate money to good causes and volunteer at soup kitchens are incapable of cheating on their spouses? Lol.

  • JuniperWhimsy's avatar
    JuniperWhimsy
    Seasoned Veteran
    4 days ago

    I'm also having this issue.  The couple I'm playing with are in a official romantic partnership (not engaged or married yet) but sometimes when they woohoo or even steamy makeout, one or other or both of them get the Secret Witness guilty Sentiment.  My sim has never cheated on her partner either (I can't say the same for him as he is from an NPC household I haven't touched).  In this particular save I haven't created any Dynasties.

     

  • Also having this issue with married sims - and it's basically any romance interaction not just woohoo 🙃It's been horrible for keeping up their romance bar

    Editing to add: I've actually just noticed it's always the same sim that gets this sentiment. She has the Proper, Jealous, Materialistic traits from CAS then also Adventurous and Romantics from self discovery moments. I'm wondering if it's something to do with the Proper trait? 

  • DarthFeral16's avatar
    DarthFeral16
    New Spectator
    3 days ago

    I also had this issue with the same sim getting this sentiment, but the trait they have that's the same as your sim's is Jealous, not Proper. Maybe it's a problem with the Jealous trait?

  • BarMaster71's avatar
    BarMaster71
    Seasoned Adventurer
    3 days ago

    The bug has nothing to do with any specific traits. All partnered Sims (whether married or not) will get the secret witness sentiment when woo-hooing with one another, unless their romantic boundaries are set so that they will not become jealous if their partners woo-hoo with other Sims.

  • Aurorabig's avatar
    Aurorabig
    Seasoned Scout
    2 days ago

    Aurora and Crispin are engaged, and they live together. Aurora cheated on Crispin, off the lot, in a different world, and he was not there. Without any announcements, I see that he has a secret discovered in his notebook (pic1). My first thought was, how does he know? There was no gameplay reason for him to know, and there were no system messages that he found out. 

    Then he got this sentiment (pic 2), but there are no other sentiments of betrayal and stuff when Sims get caught cheating. There is also no cheating mentioned under their relationship panel. 

    And then he is getting a buff (pic3) like he is the one with the secret, and he is the one who cheated. 

  • I don't know if this should be a new thread or not, but my Loyal Sim keeps getting the "Guilty about Cheating" moodlet when he woohoos with his wife. He hasn't cheated. 

  • carla95jb's avatar
    carla95jb
    Seasoned Rookie
    22 hours ago

    I'm having this same issue in my current save. The husband is constantly angry at his wife for being a "secret witness" which isn't the case they've not even spoken to other people 🤦🏼‍♀️.

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