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Re: will "top surgery" scars ever be available for female sims

@Willonne I totally agree with you, and I hope the change is made. And although I applaud and appreciate the efforts of the people suggesting the maleframe/female pronoun workaround, I want to respectfully say that transitioning men and transitioning women are not the same, and that breast cancer survivors are definitely not the same as trans men or trans women. I can totally understand that having to use a work around wrecks the immersion; it would for me, too. Furthermore, female frames should be getting the same attention to detail as male frames, not just for immersion, but because it's the right thing to do.

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Willonne
Rising Traveler
3 years ago
I really appreciate your comment and thoughtful stand on this issue. Thank you!
SqueamishNerd
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@Crayola4321 I totally agree, and it also goes in the other direction, sims with the male rig should be getting the same attention to detail as sims with the female rig. As of now the c-section scar can be used for sims with the female rig, but not sims with the male rig. There's a separate post on this one, just wanted to mention it.

Btw, just want to add that I can be good to separate between female/male rig and female/male frame, to not confuse the devs of what we're talking about (has happened before specifically in the case of male/female rig and frame). The rig is the base body, where the male one has a flat chest and the female one has a full chest, while the frame is the feminised/masculinised alteration of the rig. The chest scars are available for the male rig and not the female rig, the c-section scar is available for the female rig and not the male rig. So sims with the male rig can have the chest scars, no matter if they have a male or female frame, and sims with the female rig can have the c-section scars, no matter if they have a female or male frame, so it's the rig that sets the limitation of these two scars, not the frame