Apex packs are complete trash

@bananarepublic94Personally I think loot boxes should just be banned in general on all games but it is currently banned in Belgium so you can change your store to Belgium to receive 2800 or 2600 crafting metals instead of apex packs in your battlepass so you can at least be guaranteed something you want ( I haven’t tried this yet but I have heard players have been doing it since Season 1 without issues)

It is in fact nothing but gambling, you could get heirloom shards on your first pack (I’ve seen many clips of a level 1-2 getting an heirloom) you could get 1-2 legendarys back to back or all whites

I watched TimTheTatMan open up 500 packs twice to get 2 different heirlooms and then I watched one of KandyRew’s friends open up 110 packs and she got legendary after legendary and I swear she got more in 100 packs than Tim did in 500 packs... she even got my 2 favorite finishers wattson’s legendary, Gibralter’s Snorlax slam and she got Bangalore’s trumpet and like 6-8 legendary skins and a few legendary banners

@bananarepublic94don't buy all legends, cause the more legends you have, the chance to become white staff is far bigger then if you start with the standard 8 legends I think. Can't remember how much legends we had at the release.
But yes, that's how it works.
New players that start now with the game have the same problem. But nevertheless, later on you will get crafting materials in all colors 🙂 instead of white stuff. Don't know if that is better for you 🙂 at least not for me

Its not a scam since they are totally transparent about the price of a loot box in relations to the drop probabilities. If you have a normally functioning brain, you should figure out what approx chances you've got to get certain items by just comparing how many items of a certain type you HAVE vs how many you DONT HAVE. And the high prices can be justified by the high demand. Thats how markets work you know

It was a long time ago I studied mathematical statistics but I think 1/20 purple loot (7.5% drop rate )is quite the normal outcome.  I think there is a MINIMUM 20% probability that you get 0 purples out of 20 boxes, 34% that you get one, 26% that you get two, 12% that you get three, 4% that you get 4 and 1% that you get five. And when I say minimum is because the drop rates show the probability to get at least one out of three items  in each box.

Bottom line is that there is nothing hidden about the loot box market. People must just learn to think for themselves and control their impulses instead of blaming Respawn. 

@Balladalidila thank you for that very thorough statistical breakdown. Im not saying theres anything hidden/rigged when buying packs, im just saying they are stuffed with complete trash and the end product you get compared to the input is riddiculos. I feel sorry for the kids who actually spend their money, or rather their parents money, on this. And when you eventually get a gold item it turns out to be a banner frame or some other worthless item which is somehow in the same caregory as a legendary skin.  

It took me one purchase (10 packs) to realize this but as you say clearly theres a demand for them. Guess people have more money than sense...

@bananarepublic94 

I dont fully understand what you mean with "the end product you get compared to the input is ridiculous" but I guess you mean that the price of a loot box approx $1 each is not worth the totally revealed statistical probabilities of getting something "cool".  I agree with that 100%. Loot boxes should only be for those with a surplus of disposable income who choose to 1) support the devs in this otherwise totally free game 2)  spend money on this game to look pretty (cosmetics) as other people spend money on shopping/partying/restaurants etc etc.

I guess you are right about the immorally of such system since kids brains/impulse control/rational thinking isnt developed but on the other hand; the game IS rated PEGI16 and I am a little bit against blaming "the society" rather than blaming parents who cant control their children.  

@bananarepublic94Battlepass literally garbage. Filled  A lot of stats tracker, wallpaper and voice over. Does not deserve any $0,01. 

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@II-LAZZARUS-II wrote:

@bananarepublic94don't buy all legends, cause the more legends you have, the chance to become white staff is far bigger then if you start with the standard 8 legends I think. Can't remember how much legends we had at the release.
But yes, that's how it works.

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I don't think that's how it works at all.  When I was a new player I received plenty of customizations for all of the legends I did not own.

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@iPyromix wrote:

@bananarepublic94Battlepass literally garbage. Filled  A lot of stats tracker, wallpaper and voice over. Does not deserve any $0,01. 

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Almost all of that is in the free battle pass.  It doesn't even cost a cent!  Now if we want to talk about ugly horizon and gun skins, you mostly have a point.

@pandareno1999 Hey,

Actually Volt skin is awesome and I love it. Legend skins are also good. A lot of people don't use 30-30 and there are also 30-30 skin in battle pass.